Loco_local
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The President surrounds himself with such lovely people.
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Nope. The rise of China as an exporting behemoth can be traced back to their participation in the WTO (NAFTA was way before that). China has maybe leached itself on the trade between Mexico and USA as the main supplier of raw materials but this is more of a recent thing. Peña Nieto wants a more cordial relationship with China so we will only see them play a bigger role when it comes to goods coming from Mexico.
After NAFTA, many of those companies moved to Mexico. Mexico turned out to be crap. Delivery drivers to and from Mexico were constantly getting robbed, often by the Mexican police. Those companies then moved to China. By the end, we only had a few hundred customers.
Quality in China was pure crap before these companies moved there. China started improving their quality in the early 2000s.
tim
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When companies from the US open factories in Mexico, it helps the Mexican economy. That lowers the immigration from Mexico to the US. It also means those jobs aren't directly in the US. However, US companies have to be competitive against other companies that are making goods outside the US. Part of that is competing on price. Having cheaper labor costs is a part of that. If we make it more expensive for US companies to make their products, then they will not be competitive internationally. They will then suffer in the long-term. Of course, that won't be visible until Trump is out of office. Most of the things he does are things that will hurt us after he is out of office. He is destroying our country's future.
nosuchreality
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Free trade is great when countries leverage economic advantages they have to create more for all.
Those with fertile agricultural lands produce food, with renewable lumber produce lumber, rich mineral deposits produce minerals. etc.
What's really being produced when the economic advantage is a lower standard of living?
Those with fertile agricultural lands produce food, with renewable lumber produce lumber, rich mineral deposits produce minerals. etc.
What's really being produced when the economic advantage is a lower standard of living?
spootieho said:
Nope. The rise of China as an exporting behemoth can be traced back to their participation in the WTO (NAFTA was way before that). China has maybe leached itself on the trade between Mexico and USA as the main supplier of raw materials but this is more of a recent thing. Peña Nieto wants a more cordial relationship with China so we will only see them play a bigger role when it comes to goods coming from Mexico.
I saw it happening first hand. I suspect you didn't work in any industry affected. My company at the time supplied circuitboard supplies to thousands of companies in orange county.peppy said:
After NAFTA, many of those companies moved to Mexico. Mexico turned out to be crap. Delivery drivers to and from Mexico were constantly getting robbed, often by the Mexican police. Those companies then moved to China. By the end, we only had a few hundred customers.
Quality in China was pure crap before these companies moved there. China started improving their quality in the early 2000s.
"Just days after the Trump Administration said it was considering taxing Mexican imports to pay for a border wall, Mexican consumers are vowing to stop buying US products."
"Last week people began calling for Mexicans to stop buying US products under a string of hashtags including #AdiosStarbucks, #AdiosWalmart, #AdiosMcDonalds, #AdiosCocacola and #AdiosProductosGringos.
Source:http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/30/mexicans-are-boycotting-us-products-to-protest-trumps-wall-tax.html
"Last week people began calling for Mexicans to stop buying US products under a string of hashtags including #AdiosStarbucks, #AdiosWalmart, #AdiosMcDonalds, #AdiosCocacola and #AdiosProductosGringos.
Source:http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/30/mexicans-are-boycotting-us-products-to-protest-trumps-wall-tax.html
"Roma ‘King’ Offers to Build Trump’s Mexico Wall
In a letter to US President Donald Trump, the self-proclaimed ‘international king of the Roma’, Dorin Cioba, suggested that Roma workers could build the controversial wall on the Mexican border. "
Source:http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/roma-king-offers-to-build-trump-s-mexico-wall-02-01-2017
My comment: Maybe this can bring down the cost of the wall?
In a letter to US President Donald Trump, the self-proclaimed ‘international king of the Roma’, Dorin Cioba, suggested that Roma workers could build the controversial wall on the Mexican border. "
Source:http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/roma-king-offers-to-build-trump-s-mexico-wall-02-01-2017
My comment: Maybe this can bring down the cost of the wall?
All we hear about nowadays are the pros and cons of building a wall and whose going to pay for it.
This entire controversy would not exist if Mexico exercised control of its northern border in the same manner that Mexico controls its southern border.
Of course, Mexico can't stop all northbound migrants, but if they at least made a good faith effort, there would be no political will in this country to build a wall.
You wouldn't have to build a fence to keep your neighbor's dog from peeing on your lawn if your neighbor didn't let his dog pee on your lawn in the first place.
This entire controversy would not exist if Mexico exercised control of its northern border in the same manner that Mexico controls its southern border.
Of course, Mexico can't stop all northbound migrants, but if they at least made a good faith effort, there would be no political will in this country to build a wall.
You wouldn't have to build a fence to keep your neighbor's dog from peeing on your lawn if your neighbor didn't let his dog pee on your lawn in the first place.
