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Maybe this is the crux of where we disagree... "getting an edge in school". When I interview Irvine kids for college, I immediately know which kids get heavy tutoring.... the ones who have limited interests/hobbies and summers they can't tell me about.
So you disapprove of how some Asian family help their kids to gain an edge in school.
No, of course not only Asian kids get tutoring, but I've been in the education biz long enough to know that Asians tend to get "learn the next grade level stuff" tutoring. Tutoring because you are struggling with math concepts at school is different than, oh my kid is in first grade and in her spare time, should be learning 3rd grade level math so let's sign her up for 3 hours of math tutoring a week. And this leads to the baggage I was referencing earlier... if the majority of kids in a class are getting this type of outside tutoring, then it affects the teaching environment IN the classroom. And kids who don't get tutoring or can't afford tutoring suffer.
Hey Bones .. you still haven't answered Ken's comment on why everyone loves when Athletes get next level training or focus so much on their sport but hates and looks down upon kids who study and spend time on their studies. After all isn't the original purpose of School/College is Academics and not really life skills (kids/parents/other social stuff are there for it).
and why do you quickly guess/judge a student during an interview regarding tutoring. Is it your place to rate someone down because you thought they got tutoring? Some would argue this shows character/perseverance to do well in Academics and will bode well for research.
I did already address this. Kids go to school for 6 hours a day then get more school help. Kids DO NOT go to 6 hours of sports training school a day then get more after training. Even Olympic level athletes don't get that much training per day. The sports argument is always used but it's not apples to apples. There isn't a free sports option (for the most part), you have to pay to play.
I don't judge or guess a kid's level of tutoring, but I'm required to ask them questions about extracurriculars, etc. I mostly do that by asking them about how they spend their summers/off time. There's been a few times when I've asked and the kids tell me, they mainly spend their summers at SAT bootcamps... 2 or three consecutive summers worth. I don't rate them down because of this - I just add it to the report as they tell it to me.
I like reading the conversation between you and other folks about tutoring and afterschool activities. I am just getting to know how parents and student manage these things, mainly to achieve their goal for going to certain level of college.
Just telling you what I did in my country when I was in high school. School makes you come to school by 6:30 AM and stay until midnight. No exception, just follow the rule.
Reason why I move to US, especially in Irvine? I want my kids experience something difference, something better and fun.
You mean ultra competitive not fun.
Staying school for 17.5 hours per day is not fun. Different aspect from 'ultra competitive', I think.
Ultra competitive is like 'very hard to win', right? It more depends on your academic ability, not the time you stay in school until midnight..
I spoke to one representative in Padova last weekend and she told me " kids smart, then kids smart, not smart, then not smart. Doesn't matter whether he goes Tustin or Irvine or Laguna Beach."