President Trump

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No one participating in this thread will convince the other side about trans/queer/lgbt+ being a mental illness or not. I used to wonder about that but witnessing children grow from birth to adulthood among my friends/relatives without any type of external pressure it does not seem like it to me.

As I said before, the fact that you can so blindly accept it as mental illness when there are just as many articles and studies that cite biological causes that you ignore could be evidence of your own mental illness... Or at least bias.

And I say that out of love.

Blindly accept our side, said out of love, isn't accepting of fact. You are correct, that both sides of this question are firmly entrenched, but it can still be rationally discussed. As a note I've not included queer or lgb+ in any discussion about mental illness. These are separate questions unrelated for the most part from gender dysphoria.

Curious, do you find it acceptable for children to earnestly believe in Santa? (Most do. It's harmless.) Do you find it acceptable for a 40 year old to earnestly believe in Santa? (Most don't) Would "Buddy The Elf", full costume, same mannerisms be an appropriate personality working at the desk next to you? (Probably not) How about the serial rapist in prison who has "discovered" he has always been a female, only to be transferred to a woman 's prison - a "target rich environment" (There are many who have done this ). Do we accept and acknowledge their new identity? If not, why not? You can't blindly disrespect their choices now can you?

You see where this eventually ends. That's why this President is doing what's possible to reinforce objective truth: that no amount of surgery or drugs will ever turn a man into a woman, or a woman into a man. There are only two sexes, and gender identity is an artificial construct. What affirmation and or acceptance does is temporary sooth the troubled mind only to wear off quickly, and often turn into a tragedy. Love should do everything possible to keep this from happening in a factual, truth guided, science proven method

 

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Like saying this is Biden's stock market and not due to tariffs? Even you can't believe that.

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I do but maybe for different reasons than you think. This is an excerpt from my January 1 2025 letter to my clients….its why we were short the markets in the first quarter….Weak markets are the reckoning for Brandon’s reckless spending and government hiring…

“Just like 1981, we have a new Administration coming into power with a decidedly business oriented direction for economic growth. But just as trees do not grow the sky, this cycle cannot move along without recognition of the recessionary forces that we have been in for the last 2 years. (yes, even as markets moved higher) Again, I will preface that these comments are NOT to be interpreted as political, just a reading of the information the Public has been fed is important for CONTEXT. One of the underlying gripes that current Presidential race has backlighted is the disconnect between what the economic (government) statistics say and what the public perceives and feels about the economy. Democrats kept pointing to positive economic indicators (GDP Unemployment, Job creation and wages) as proof that the economy is growing but could never understand why the electorate did not agree. The headline numbers always looked so good but months latter, (when no one was paying attention anymore to last months numbers) they were quietly revised down with little fanfare or attention. Markets reacted to the initial numbers and chose to ignore most of the negative revisions that hinted at a truly weak economy. Any gains in these statistics were really driven by MASSIVE government spending and largesse and not private sector investment and hiring. It’s not hard to see why the statistics and people on the ground tell a very different story.
I think a reckoning of where the economy has really been is in the makings. That means near term volatility while the system digests the reality of our past recession.”

 

[irvinehomeowner]

Blindly accept our side, said out of love, isn't accepting of fact. You are correct, that both sides of this question are firmly entrenched, but it can still be rationally discussed. As a note I've not included queer or lgb+ in any discussion about mental illness. These are separate questions unrelated for the most part from gender dysphoria.

Curious, do you find it acceptable for children to earnestly believe in Santa? (Most do. It's harmless.) Do you find it acceptable for a 40 year old to earnestly believe in Santa? (Most don't) Would "Buddy The Elf", full costume, same mannerisms be an appropriate personality working at the desk next to you? (Probably not) How about the serial rapist in prison who has "discovered" he has always been a female, only to be transferred to a woman 's prison - a "target rich environment" (There are many who have done this ). Do we accept and acknowledge their new identity? If not, why not? You can't blindly disrespect their choices now can you?

You see where this eventually ends. That's why this President is doing what's possible to reinforce objective truth: that no amount of surgery or drugs will ever turn a man into a woman, or a woman into a man. There are only two sexes, and gender identity is an artificial construct. What affirmation and or acceptance does is temporary sooth the troubled mind only to wear off quickly, and often turn into a tragedy. Love should do everything possible to keep this from happening in a factual, truth guided, science proven method

To prove your points you are speaking of edge cases or extremes.

There is a slippery slope in everything you mention.

Let's take more general cases... for example, we have a member whose job is financial investing but due to his political leanings, he can't admit the fact that the biggest affect on the stock market right now is tariffs. That's like believing in Santa Claus.

Or another member who can't cite actual social media posts from any other president filled with the hate and name calling that Trump did on Easter and instead blames Democrat (and only Democrat presidents) for such behavior. That can be seen as mental illness.

Why would queer/lgbt+ be separate from trans? They are all in the realm of gender identity.

Again... there isn't enough evidence to prove it's mental illness... based on my real life observations and what I've read... if that's your definition of a mental illness... then everyone has some form of mental illness.

 

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as always, my scoreboard is measured in dollars and cents. where for almost 40 years, I pretty much have always been right. It’s why I get paid the big bucks and my clients make the big bucks.

 

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Winning!!!

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[irvinehomeowner]

as always, my scoreboard is measured in dollars and cents. where for almost 40 years, I pretty much have always been right. It’s why I get paid the big bucks and my clients make the big bucks.

I'm not doubting your career. I'm doubting you actually think tariffs are not affecting the market.

Every other economist knows the truth.