Are you sure those were non-believers? I believe they were actually real believers over the religious leaders at the time. They were real believers because they recognized their sin while religious leaders didn't. Jesus was just letting them know they were forgiven. Who the Father has given to the Son were these (John 6, 10, 17). This is also one of the pre-destination arguments I can talk about.
He literally called them sinners and the ones who are lost and that He came to lead them to repentence.
I have no idea how those are predestination arguments.
That's your personal view of how you're seeing predetermination theology. We are all fallen. No one deserves to be saved by God's standard. You're right up to there, but you're into your own interpretation when you start saying things like "Who cares about those people, they're not chosen." God does want everyone to be saved (Ezekiel 18:23), but it's the unwillingness to repent that holds them from being saved. Jesus accepts you as long as you repent. But that repenting heart is also from God. It's the Holy Spirit who does that good work. Think of it this way. It's not some kind of elitists mindset. It's that we can't do any good works, but God chooses to good works through us (Romans8). The focus is on God with His love, grace, sovereignty and all good things instead of us. The focus should not be on "who's not saved?" There also are plenty of verses to back this theology and it makes more sense with clear understanding once you have this mindset when you read the Bible.
I am not into my own interpretation...it is literally why the Pilgrims came to this country...they believed that they were the chosen few and were commanded by God to leave the old and corrupt world. Pilgrim then kicked out anyone who challenged the concept of predestination.
http://mayflowerhistory.com/religion#:~:text=Predestination.,grace, and would have faith.
https://www.ushistory.org/us/3e.asp
ut that repenting heart is also from God. It's the Holy Spirit who does that good work. Think of it this way. It's not some kind of elitists mindset.
Of course it is some sort of elitist argument...why did God choose some over others? Those who are chosen are by definition elite.
If all fall short of the glory of God, why do some get saved and others do not?
The focus should not be on "who's not saved?"
Why not? It is why Jesus came. To look for the one lost sheep...
"What do you think? If a man owns a hundred sheep, and one of them wanders away, will he not leave the ninety-nine on the hills and go to look for the one that wandered off? Matthew 18:2
Why else would God keep believers here if not to spread the word of God and to bring as many into the Kingdom of Heave as possible?
There also are plenty of verses to back this theology and it makes more sense with clear understanding once you have this mindset when you read the Bible.
You keep saying this but I see the opposite. Please elaborate.
