bkshopr_IHB
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That jar of shrimp paste looks yummy. You may not like it but spread some over the hot dog and the Korean tacos really enhance the flavor.
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That jar of shrimp paste looks yummy. You may not like it but spread some over the hot dog and the Korean tacos really enhance the flavor.
I was unfortunately a product of the LAUSD. I remember the school was only concerned if you went to 'homeroom' which is a 15 minute class where they take roll and do nothing else. It was for the funding only. If you miss any of your classes other than homeroom, you did not get an automated call home. But if you miss homeroom, your automated call to the parents will be made right at dinnertime.
When you said Aliso was like a Prison, it reminded me of my LAUSD experience in high school. It was very overcrowded in each class. The campus was fully fenced and gates locked. If you had to go home early, security had to unlock the gate for you. If you dared to hop the fence, you clothes would be ruined since they greased the tops of all the fences.
Fully armed plainclothes Police on campus all the time. At least once a year, a student would be seen with a gun on campus and would run across campus from the police with their weapons out. Students were told to hide or get down.
During my senior year, there was a riot on campus where some staff was attacked, utility carts (those electric vehicles) were flipped over and a bathroom was set on fire.
Even through that wild learning environment, I still graduated from a University with close to a 4.0.
Bltserv, please tell me Aliso high is not like that. I really like the house I am in escrow on but may back out to avoid giving my kids the LAUSD type of experience I had.
Actually, he is not the exception. He went to the same lousy high school I went to. I went to college, it wasn't top notch, but that was my choice. And, acpme and I know several people that went to Stanford, Harvard, Berkeley, USC (too many actually), UCLA etc...
I know you were joking, but in case other people don't get it, I wanted it to be clear that people who graduate from high schools outside of Irvine do get top notch educations. I wish I could have gone to the school that acpme went to, but not that many get to go to that school. It is very, very selective.
(I don't know if that helps or hurts your point)
Saw a presentation by administrator at Uni High, he said not actually. Colleges seem to track student performance by school when they arrive, and can predict/adjust enrollment requirements accordingly. (In other words, an A or B from a lower performing school is adjusted down, and an A or B from a higher performing school is adjusted up). He said he has no idea how it all really works, but he does know there have been Uni students with B's that got into Ivy League schools somehow.
We started out with the Grammer School. It was Foxborough. He did a couple years there and it seemed like a great school.
Coming and going and the traffic were terrible though. One way in. One way out. Good teachers. All temporary bungalows.
On the river bed were you could not develop property for residential.
Then Wood Canyon for Middle School. This is where the issues began with overcrowding. It was still acceptable and traffic was better getting him in and out.
But then Aliso Niguel happened. Now this is a few years back. Like 2000 to 2004.
I would suggest you try driving in and out in the morning rush if you want an experience.
Again. The developers of the day left the river bed for the school. Terrible traffic coming and going.
From day one this school was about MONEY. Keeping the kids in line with some very strict rules.
My son was never a discipline problem. Now suddenly he is getting into situations and getting suspended
for almost no reasons that are justified. "He walked the wrong way home" "He was possibly seen with others smoking"
"He defended himself when he should have just been a victim". It got worse and worse.
And a heavy police presence. I almost always saw the marked police car in front of the school every morning.
Getting my son to go to school was a real battle. At the very end we sent him to a private school for the last 6 months
or he was going to refuse to go.
I too am a LAUSD Alumni as well. Venice High 1973. I sure miss 5th period surfing class next to the nude beach.
Those were the days.
Maybe its better now. But I would find out the class sizes and the number of police on campus.
And for sure try the traffic in the morning and afternoon.
Personally. This is the same conduct I experienced at Aliso Niguel.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/school-lawsuit-mendez-2544726-bullying-san
The only difference was my kid would use his Martial Arts skills and get suspended
when he was confronted. "He was to blame because he could defend himself"
Thats why the other kids would target him according to the school.
Ok. So it seems traffic planning (or lack of), is a problem and the staff were overly militant with keeping order and put everyone into the same "trouble" category regardless of if they were the cause of trouble or just protecting themselves from it.
My son is still very young (5 years old), and is very good at Brazillian Jiu Jitsu for his age. I train as well and he had gotten me into some good choke submissions and I am more than twice his size. His teachers know he is training and have warned him (and me) about using his fighting skills for any reason at school. This is even before anything has ever happened. So maybe teachers or administrators have watched too much UFC and feel everyone that trains martial arts is going to bloody the hell out of their opponent.
I think the suspension is just a 'no tolerance' rule. I remember back in my high school days when some friends would get suspended for defending themselves in fights. I also remember when one friend was pepper sprayed by an undercover cop on campus and almost suspended just because he walked out of the classroom at the wrong time. There happened to be a fight going on outside (which he did not know about), and when he opened the door and took a step out, the cop sprayed everyone in the area including him. It took several of the students and the teacher from the class to convince the cop that my friend had nothing to do with the fight and had just left class.
Thanks for the info on the high school. I will take a drive out that way in the next week or so to check out the traffic and also call the school about class sizes, etc.
That jar of shrimp paste looks yummy. You may not like it but spread some over the hot dog and the Korean tacos really enhance the flavor.
acpme_IHB
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My dad used to buy old textbooks at garage and library sales. From the math books, I would get extra assignments on top of my regular schoolwork. History and social studies textbooks I enjoyed reading on my own. My parents didn't need to pay HOA and mello roos, or need 92603 on our mail, for my siblings and I to get a top notch education.
irvine_home_owner_IHB
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Exception!acpme said:
bkshopr_IHB
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I finally found something that IHO and I have in common. We both posted at exactly 12:28pm.
davenlei_IHB
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bltserv said:
I was unfortunately a product of the LAUSD. I remember the school was only concerned if you went to 'homeroom' which is a 15 minute class where they take roll and do nothing else. It was for the funding only. If you miss any of your classes other than homeroom, you did not get an automated call home. But if you miss homeroom, your automated call to the parents will be made right at dinnertime.
When you said Aliso was like a Prison, it reminded me of my LAUSD experience in high school. It was very overcrowded in each class. The campus was fully fenced and gates locked. If you had to go home early, security had to unlock the gate for you. If you dared to hop the fence, you clothes would be ruined since they greased the tops of all the fences.
Fully armed plainclothes Police on campus all the time. At least once a year, a student would be seen with a gun on campus and would run across campus from the police with their weapons out. Students were told to hide or get down.
During my senior year, there was a riot on campus where some staff was attacked, utility carts (those electric vehicles) were flipped over and a bathroom was set on fire.
Even through that wild learning environment, I still graduated from a University with close to a 4.0.
Bltserv, please tell me Aliso high is not like that. I really like the house I am in escrow on but may back out to avoid giving my kids the LAUSD type of experience I had.
bkshopr_IHB
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To understand the power of branding a product such as the City of Irvine one should rent the last 2 seasons of Mad Men. You will learn and get a glimpse of what it takes to market and brand a product for consumer loyalty. The show is actually quite accurate of the process.
SoCal78_IHB
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Since this poll was created, I have been trying think of how to answer it. The problem is that in my head, I vacillate between all four poll options on a daily basis! I have already once made the decision to move out of the area due to the type of house I could get elsewhere. After 5 years, it really made me miss the Irvine area and I swore I would never again base the decision of where to live on a stupid house... the location is most important. But now here I am back again and find that I don't like the extra traffic, the close quarters to neighbors, and of course the prices. Then again, there are positive things to living here. When it comes time to buy again, I want to learn my lesson from my previous "mistake" and not repeat it. Then again, I don't want to feel like I've made a foolish decision to purchase an overpriced stucco box here. Mr. SoCal says to compromise on the type and location of home so that we can get a little bit of each thing we want. But I guess I am a pessimist and see compromising as not really getting either thing you want. I feel like I will never be able to make up my mind or always wonder "what if". Irvine - can't live with it. Can't live without it. Ugh.
graphrix_IHB
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irvine_home_owner said:
Actually, he is not the exception. He went to the same lousy high school I went to. I went to college, it wasn't top notch, but that was my choice. And, acpme and I know several people that went to Stanford, Harvard, Berkeley, USC (too many actually), UCLA etc...
I know you were joking, but in case other people don't get it, I wanted it to be clear that people who graduate from high schools outside of Irvine do get top notch educations. I wish I could have gone to the school that acpme went to, but not that many get to go to that school. It is very, very selective.
bkshopr_IHB
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Irvine schools are too competitive. Smart kids get just average GPAs because the other kids with extra schooling raised the bar so high. It actually depreciate the opportunities for the average smart kids getting accepted to the top tier colleges because of an average GPA.
irvine_home_owner_IHB
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I didn't go to high school in Irvine.graphrix said:
(I don't know if that helps or hurts your point)
ABC123_IHB
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Back to the original question asked on the poll, after reading this thread I'm choosing out of state. Second choice is Sonoma/Petaluma/Santa Rosa
Anonymous_IHB
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bkshopr said:
Saw a presentation by administrator at Uni High, he said not actually. Colleges seem to track student performance by school when they arrive, and can predict/adjust enrollment requirements accordingly. (In other words, an A or B from a lower performing school is adjusted down, and an A or B from a higher performing school is adjusted up). He said he has no idea how it all really works, but he does know there have been Uni students with B's that got into Ivy League schools somehow.
villagepeople_IHB
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not sure if this is true for highschool... but i had a friend that scored in the top 1% of the MCAT, with a 4.0 gpa at UCI... got an interview at Harvard for medical school, but got rejected... cause the people on the panel never heard of UCI. Point is, if you go an "unknown" school your chances of getting into a top notch school may be nil [at least for medical school]. (of course this was 12 years ago... )
bltserv_IHB
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davenlei said:
We started out with the Grammer School. It was Foxborough. He did a couple years there and it seemed like a great school.
Coming and going and the traffic were terrible though. One way in. One way out. Good teachers. All temporary bungalows.
On the river bed were you could not develop property for residential.
Then Wood Canyon for Middle School. This is where the issues began with overcrowding. It was still acceptable and traffic was better getting him in and out.
But then Aliso Niguel happened. Now this is a few years back. Like 2000 to 2004.
I would suggest you try driving in and out in the morning rush if you want an experience.
Again. The developers of the day left the river bed for the school. Terrible traffic coming and going.
From day one this school was about MONEY. Keeping the kids in line with some very strict rules.
My son was never a discipline problem. Now suddenly he is getting into situations and getting suspended
for almost no reasons that are justified. "He walked the wrong way home" "He was possibly seen with others smoking"
"He defended himself when he should have just been a victim". It got worse and worse.
And a heavy police presence. I almost always saw the marked police car in front of the school every morning.
Getting my son to go to school was a real battle. At the very end we sent him to a private school for the last 6 months
or he was going to refuse to go.
I too am a LAUSD Alumni as well. Venice High 1973. I sure miss 5th period surfing class next to the nude beach.
Those were the days.
Maybe its better now. But I would find out the class sizes and the number of police on campus.
And for sure try the traffic in the morning and afternoon.
Personally. This is the same conduct I experienced at Aliso Niguel.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/school-lawsuit-mendez-2544726-bullying-san
The only difference was my kid would use his Martial Arts skills and get suspended
when he was confronted. "He was to blame because he could defend himself"
Thats why the other kids would target him according to the school.
irvine_home_owner_IHB
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Note to self:
Enroll kids in MMA training prior to admission to high school.
Enroll kids in MMA training prior to admission to high school.
davenlei_IHB
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bltserv said:
Ok. So it seems traffic planning (or lack of), is a problem and the staff were overly militant with keeping order and put everyone into the same "trouble" category regardless of if they were the cause of trouble or just protecting themselves from it.
My son is still very young (5 years old), and is very good at Brazillian Jiu Jitsu for his age. I train as well and he had gotten me into some good choke submissions and I am more than twice his size. His teachers know he is training and have warned him (and me) about using his fighting skills for any reason at school. This is even before anything has ever happened. So maybe teachers or administrators have watched too much UFC and feel everyone that trains martial arts is going to bloody the hell out of their opponent.
I think the suspension is just a 'no tolerance' rule. I remember back in my high school days when some friends would get suspended for defending themselves in fights. I also remember when one friend was pepper sprayed by an undercover cop on campus and almost suspended just because he walked out of the classroom at the wrong time. There happened to be a fight going on outside (which he did not know about), and when he opened the door and took a step out, the cop sprayed everyone in the area including him. It took several of the students and the teacher from the class to convince the cop that my friend had nothing to do with the fight and had just left class.
Thanks for the info on the high school. I will take a drive out that way in the next week or so to check out the traffic and also call the school about class sizes, etc.
Shooby_IHB
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Woodbury. I feel like I practically live there now. I use the softball fields for practices, swim in their pool (ok, we snuck in a few times, but otherwise we have friends that live there), use their tennis courts, BBQ at the grills.
It's quite nice actually. Total HOA cost = well..does the gas to drive there count???
It's quite nice actually. Total HOA cost = well..does the gas to drive there count???
esq4_IHB
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We live in Turtle Ridge (Aborel). We're looking exclusively in Talega. We're a young family -- lots of similarly situated young families. Commute will suck, but family neighborhood is amazing. Weekend bbq's and blockparties will more than compensate for 45 extra minutes in the car. but hey, I like driving so it's not that bad....
jumpcut_IHB
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Just got the Woodbury newsletter today. Effective immediately there is a monitor checking key fob numbers as you enter the main pool areas. Also, Nordic Security is patrolling and randomly checking key fob numbers at all facilities and pools.Shooby said: