The 2020 Presidential Election

MTalltheway said:
eyephone said:
Where the fake news guy?
I?ll give you real news, but fake news to you. Lol
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Please tell me where I said everything is fake news? Putting words in my mouth.

I'm just saying there's a lot of biased news pushing certain media agendas, some of which have been proven to be false.

Wish I could tango, but got better stuff to do. Cheers.
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This is what you said:
Clearly it's not as big an issue as the media is trying to make it out to be. Biased, if not outright fake news has such a reach these days.

 
MTalltheway said:
eyephone said:
MTalltheway said:
eyephone said:
America has gotten worse not better. It?s really sad and unfortunate.

Don?t blame me. It?s not my fault. I have no authority or jurisdiction. We need to point fingers and seek change.
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https://www.cato.org/blog/are-mass-shootings-becoming-more-frequent

"Adding a preliminary estimate of 17 deaths from Parkland to the Mother Jones list brings the total number of deaths up to 816 from 98 mass shootings between 1982 and early 2018 ? or just 23 deaths per year.  That makes this sort of random mass shooting one of the rarest mortality risks imaginable. Falling or the flu are far more dangerous. "

So has America really "gotten worse", or has the media just simply blown this out of proportion to push their gun control agenda?

It seems like the latter. We have people like eyephone who just gobble up mainstream agendas, who then have this idea that we need to "point fingers" and "seek change", when the research indicates it to be "one of the rarest mortality risks imaginable".
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Blame the media, blame video games
We are sick of excuses. We need action done!
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Excuses for what? We need action for what, exactly?

Clearly it's not as big an issue as the media is trying to make it out to be. Biased, if not outright fake news has such a reach these days.
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It?s like running a marathon. If you aren?t in shape or done training. Maybe you shouldn?t run.
(Not recommended)

So like run away if you can?t debate or have a conversation with me.
#soeasy
 
I have to give Robert Francis credit for being honest about the Liberals' true intention for the law abiding gun owning citizens of this country which account for half the popluation: mass criminizlation and persecution.

If the Dems win, the Liberal Inquisition is sure to follow.

Soylent Green Is People said:
On the drug question you can go to one extreme (San Francisco) to the other (Singapore or The Philippines) and you will still have the unstoppable drive for self destruction. If I had my way I'd lean pretty close to the Singapore model.

As for "Gun Violence" a side note first....

Note how the 1990's  alarmist "Global Warming" softened to the gentle "Climate Change"?  What was 1980's "Gun Control" became the 2000's "Common Sense Gun Control" and now is the even softer "Gun Violence". Make no mistake dear reader - this remains an issue of control and nothing more.

I got pummeled for saying this before, but let's look at a set of numbers anyone can verify if they want to.

Since 2015 roughly 55% of mass shootings (5 or more dead, excluding the shooter) involved pistols rather than rifles.

Ask any candidate if they are ready to reduce gun violence with pistol restrictions. All you will hear in reponse is the sound of crickets.

Since 2015 the racial background of mass shooters are spread across the racial spectrum EQUALLY.

Ask any candidate about gun violence NOT being a "white nationalist issue" and you will get booed of the stage for asking such an impertinent question.

Since 2015 the highest common factor within the profile of mass shooters?  Many won't like the answer, but it's true none the less:

Parental divorce (82%)

It's hard to search for psychotropic mood altering drugs, but Mother Jones (hardly a conservative resource) has an excellent record of mental health issues and mass shootings. If not equal to Parental Divorce, I'm sure it's as high of a percentage.

These aren't the NRA's facts and figures but easily discoverable in main stream news reports.

Cars, knives, doctors, and other sources kill more than guns. You wouldn't know it from the debate. I do support Red Flag laws even with the slippery slope issues that come alongside these laws. I'd prefer gun ownership to require 6 hours of field training and Tasers for those who feel the need for personal protection but aren't stable enough to own a weapon. There are still other ideas than can help reduce gun violence such as 1 strike laws but at some point in time you're going to run out of room. So be it.

As with drugs and guns no matter how much you try to control them, mankind still will find a way to use and abuse them. This is not a gun issue - statistically speaking - but an issue of the heart, and politics will never solve this issue.

My .02c
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anyone catch biden's dentures almost fall out last night?  this guy is literally falling apart in front of us.  by this time next year he's just going to be a floating head.

Dental malfunction? Concerns over Biden's teeth as he struggles to answer debate question

Former Vice President Joe Biden struggled to answer a question on gun control during the third Democratic debate in Houston, Texas, prompting viral claims that his teeth were falling out.

ABC News host David Muir had asked Biden, 76, why voters should give him a second chance to pass gun control proposals after none were signed into law while he was in office in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

"Because I?ve got it done before. I?m the only one up here that?s ever beat the NRA. Only one ever to beat the NRA nationally. I'm the guy that brought the Brady Bill into focus and became law," Biden replied as he moved his mouth uncomfortably.

It is not clear whether Biden was chewing gum that got stuck in the wrong place or if he suffered some other oral problem. Biden appears to have undergone significant cosmetic surgery in recent decades, including procedures for hair plugs, Botox injections, and veneers. He is known for his startlingly white teeth, which have had their own website for more than a decade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=102&v=dMVzw2ymEec

During the CNN climate change town hall, Biden's left eye filled with blood. A broken blood vessel in the eye, also known as a subconjuctival hemorrhage, can be caused by high blood pressure, bleeding disorders, blood thinners, or even excessive straining.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/dental-malfunction-concerns-over-bidens-teeth-as-he-struggles-to-answer-debate-question
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I think Elizabeth Warren has a good shot of being the nominee simply because she doesn't seem as old as the other two leading candidates.  Biden's age issues are starting to get noticed, and the negative coverage of every mistake he makes, physical or mental, is confirming voters' worst fears that he will get embarrassed by Trump.  Bernie still has his mind, but man, he comes off as a grouchy old hunchback nowadays.
 
Liar Loan said:
I think Elizabeth Warren has a good shot of being the nominee simply because she doesn't seem as old as the other two leading candidates.  Biden's age issues are starting to get noticed, and the negative coverage of every mistake he makes, physical or mental, is confirming voters' worst fears that he will get embarrassed by Trump.  Bernie still has his mind, but man, he comes off as a grouchy old hunchback nowadays.
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i would agree with this assessment.  little julian castro (who had a booster seat last night) took shot at biden for forgetting what he said earlier in the night and got the crowd a little rowdy.  the irony is that the media and the left love to make a big stink about trump's "fitness" but he hasn't had any campaign-killing physical lapses like hillary being thrown into a black van while losing her shoe and biden who i predict will fall asleep standing up at one of the next debates.

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Biden's dentures mishap was amusing, but what do you make of this?
Linsey Davis: Mr. Vice-President, I want to talk to you about inequality in schools and race. In a conversation about how to deal with segregation in schools back in 1975, you told a reporter ?I don?t feel responsible for the sins of my father and grandfather. I feel responsible for what the situation is today, for the sins of my own generation, and I?ll be damned if I feel responsible to pay for what happened 300 years ago.? You said that some 40 years ago, but as you stand here tonight, what responsibility do you think that Americans need to take to repair the legacy of slavery in our country?

Joe Biden: Well, they have to deal with the ? Look, there is institutional segregation in this country. And from the time I got involved, I started dealing with that. Redlining, banks, making sure that we are in a position where ? Look, we talk about education. I propose that what we take is those very poor schools, the Title 1 schools, triple the amount of money we spend from $15 to $45 billion a year. Give every single teacher a raise to the equal of ? A raise of getting out of the $60,000 level.

Number two, make sure that we bring in to the help with the stud ? the teachers deal with the problems that come from home. The problems that come from home, we need ? We have one school psychologist for every 1,500 kids in America today. It?s crazy. The teachers are required ? I?m married to a teacher. My deceased wife is a teacher. They have every problem coming to them.

Make sure that every single child does, in fact, have three, four, and five-year-olds go to school. School! Not daycare, school. We bring social workers into homes of parents to help them deal with how to raise their children. It?s not want they don?t want to help. They don?t know want? They don?t know what quite what to do. Play the radio. Make sure the television ? excuse me, make sure you have the record player on at night. The phone ? make sure the kids hear words. A kid coming from a very poor school ? er, a very poor background will hear 4 million words fewer spoken by the time they get there.

Davis: Thank you, Mr. Vice-President.

Biden: No, I?m going to go like the rest of them do, twice over, okay? Because here?s the deal. The deal is that we?ve got this a little backwards. And by the way, in Venezuela, we should be allowing people to come here from Venezuela. I know Maduro. I?ve confronted Maduro. Number two, you talk about the need to do something in Latin America. I?m the guy that came up with $740 million to see to it those three countries, in fact, change their system so people don?t have to chance to leave. You?re all acting like we just discovered this yesterday! Thank you very much.
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Liar Loan said:
Biden's dentures mishap was amusing, but what do you make of this?
Linsey Davis: Mr. Vice-President, I want to talk to you about inequality in schools and race. In a conversation about how to deal with segregation in schools back in 1975, you told a reporter ?I don?t feel responsible for the sins of my father and grandfather. I feel responsible for what the situation is today, for the sins of my own generation, and I?ll be damned if I feel responsible to pay for what happened 300 years ago.? You said that some 40 years ago, but as you stand here tonight, what responsibility do you think that Americans need to take to repair the legacy of slavery in our country?

Joe Biden: Well, they have to deal with the ? Look, there is institutional segregation in this country. And from the time I got involved, I started dealing with that. Redlining, banks, making sure that we are in a position where ? Look, we talk about education. I propose that what we take is those very poor schools, the Title 1 schools, triple the amount of money we spend from $15 to $45 billion a year. Give every single teacher a raise to the equal of ? A raise of getting out of the $60,000 level.

Number two, make sure that we bring in to the help with the stud ? the teachers deal with the problems that come from home. The problems that come from home, we need ? We have one school psychologist for every 1,500 kids in America today. It?s crazy. The teachers are required ? I?m married to a teacher. My deceased wife is a teacher. They have every problem coming to them.

Make sure that every single child does, in fact, have three, four, and five-year-olds go to school. School! Not daycare, school. We bring social workers into homes of parents to help them deal with how to raise their children. It?s not want they don?t want to help. They don?t know want? They don?t know what quite what to do. Play the radio. Make sure the television ? excuse me, make sure you have the record player on at night. The phone ? make sure the kids hear words. A kid coming from a very poor school ? er, a very poor background will hear 4 million words fewer spoken by the time they get there.

Davis: Thank you, Mr. Vice-President.

Biden: No, I?m going to go like the rest of them do, twice over, okay? Because here?s the deal. The deal is that we?ve got this a little backwards. And by the way, in Venezuela, we should be allowing people to come here from Venezuela. I know Maduro. I?ve confronted Maduro. Number two, you talk about the need to do something in Latin America. I?m the guy that came up with $740 million to see to it those three countries, in fact, change their system so people don?t have to chance to leave. You?re all acting like we just discovered this yesterday! Thank you very much.
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i remember that response.  he makes a few good points, but half of what he said is gobbledygook.  it's like he hit on one talking point that his handlers prepared for him, and then tried to fill in with some loosely related nonsense until his brain could rattle off another one.  and "make sure you have the record player on at night" ?  that alone shows how out of touch the old man is and if he thinks he's going to win over any of the young vote that the other socialists seem to have a handle on, he's sadly mistaken.

oh, and i should mention that he didn't answer the question at all...but that's nothing new for politicians.
 
Just to be fair, there is the whole retro vinyl subculture that is popular with the young crowd.  I even got me a record player last year so I could listen to my grandpa's old jazz collection.
 
Liar Loan said:
Just to be fair, there is the whole retro vinyl subculture that is popular with the young crowd.  I even got me a record player last year so I could listen to my grandpa's old jazz collection.
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right, but you and i both know that's not what he meant  ;)
 
Where?s the chicken guy?
Big time financial guru (in pesos)
I can?t make this up lol
I just gets better and better...
 
Just got back my Yang lottery ticket entry.  If he gives me $1000.00 a month he will then be my guy....either way my vote won't matter in this state.
 
morekaos said:
Just got back my Yang lottery ticket entry.  If he gives me $1000.00 a month he will then be my guy....either way my vote won't matter in this state.
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Most Dems criticize the Trump presidency as being too much like a reality TV show.  You've got admire Yang's full embrace of this concept for his own campaign.
 
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