ICE or EV?

[morekaos]

I had high hopes for this to catch on, but alas, another failure looms:

VW Calls Off 2026 ID Buzz in US—and It May Never Come Back

Those pesky "market conditions" might kill off the nostalgic EV we all waited years for.

www.thedrive.com

A refurbished 1970ish Brazilian made Type 2 bus powered by an anemic ICE engine will set you back about 1/2 the cost of a brand new ID Buzz.

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Demand for these are never ending. Had VW just built the Buzz with an ICE powerplant and an automatic transmission it could have made a market for itself just based on nostalga, just as the "New Bug" did for VW in the 2000's.

As I have said…VW makes bad financial decisions

 

[irvinehomeowner]

EV minivan would be very nice but Buzz was overpriced for the range. 200+ mi range is ok but not for $60k.

As I said, EV makers will shift to more affordable models because morekaos thinks they all cost over $100k.

 

[OCtoSV]

EV minivan would be very nice but Buzz was overpriced for the range. 200+ mi range is ok but not for $60k.

As I said, EV makers will shift to more affordable models because morekaos thinks they all cost over $100k.

What you fail to comprehend is due to their massive head start in software and materials science only Tesla can turn a profit on EVs - the rest are years away, and it may be a totally intractable problem for them. The type of vehicle doesn’t matter.

 

[morekaos]

What you fail to comprehend is due to their massive head start in software and materials science only Tesla can turn a profit on EVs - the rest are years away, and it may be a totally intractable problem for them. The type of vehicle doesn’t matter.

It’s Unobtanium….