Economy and Climate Change
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irvinehomeowner
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Who said they control the sun? Man... you really don't understand science at all.
morekaos
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Citation…
Study Finds Sun May Be Leading Cause of Global Warming
A new study by nearly two dozen scientists found that rising global temperatures may be caused by the sun, rather than carbon dioxide.
According to The Australian, a paper by 23 solar physics and climate science experts from 14 different countries, the 16 most prominent datasets of solar output show solar energy is more of a cause for global warming than carbon dioxide.
https://humanevents.com/2021/08/26/study-finds-sun-may-be-leading-cause-of-global-warming/
Study Finds Sun May Be Leading Cause of Global Warming
A new study by nearly two dozen scientists found that rising global temperatures may be caused by the sun, rather than carbon dioxide.
According to The Australian, a paper by 23 solar physics and climate science experts from 14 different countries, the 16 most prominent datasets of solar output show solar energy is more of a cause for global warming than carbon dioxide.
https://humanevents.com/2021/08/26/study-finds-sun-may-be-leading-cause-of-global-warming/
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irvinehomeowner
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So since morekaos just throws any website out there:
mediabiasfactcheck.com
Granted, even mediabiasfactcheck.com might be biased, but I am focusing on the factual reporting aspect, morekaos has a track record of quoting unreliable sources.
Human Events - Bias and Credibility
RIGHT BIAS These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may
mediabiasfactcheck.com
- Overall, we rate Human Events Right Biased based on story selection that favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to failed fact checks and writers who have failed numerous fact checks during their careers.
Granted, even mediabiasfactcheck.com might be biased, but I am focusing on the factual reporting aspect, morekaos has a track record of quoting unreliable sources.
Liar Loan
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Nonsense... Your are as culpable as they are.
morekaos
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that’s right, keep shooting the messenger when you don’t like what they tell youSo since morekaos just throws any website out there:
Human Events - Bias and Credibility
RIGHT BIAS These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may
- Overall, we rate Human Events Right Biased based on story selection that favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to failed fact checks and writers who have failed numerous fact checks during their careers.
Granted, even mediabiasfactcheck.com might be biased, but I am focusing on the factual reporting aspect, morekaos has a track record of quoting unreliable sources.
morekaos
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Well these kooks at the NY times seem to think that blocking the sun might cool the earth…talk about junk science? It says “Sciences” in their name so it must be “scientific”, right? But since the NY times said it I suppose its settled science. Comedy at its finest!!!So since morekaos just throws any website out there:
Human Events - Bias and Credibility
RIGHT BIAS These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may
- Overall, we rate Human Events Right Biased based on story selection that favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to failed fact checks and writers who have failed numerous fact checks during their careers.
Granted, even mediabiasfactcheck.com might be biased, but I am focusing on the factual reporting aspect, morekaos has a track record of quoting unreliable sources.
Should We Block the Sun? Scientists Say the Time Has Come to Study It.
The National Academies said the United States must study technologies that would artificially cool the planet by reflecting away some sunlight, citing the lack of progress fighting global warming.
WASHINGTON — The idea of artificially cooling the planet to blunt climate change — in effect, blocking sunlight before it can warm the atmosphere — got a boost on Thursday when an influential scientific body urged the United States government to spend at least $100 million to research the technology.
That technology, often called solar geoengineering, entails reflecting more of the sun’s energy back into space through techniques that include injecting aerosols into the atmosphere. In a new report, the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine said that governments urgently need to know whether solar geoengineering could work and what the side effects might be.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/25/climate/geoengineering-sunlight.html
The Motor Court Company
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SnowpiercerWell these kooks at the NY times seem to think that blocking the sun might cool the earth…talk about junk science? It says “Sciences” in their name so it must be “scientific”, right? But since the NY times said it I suppose its settled science. Comedy at its finest!!!
Should We Block the Sun? Scientists Say the Time Has Come to Study It.
The National Academies said the United States must study technologies that would artificially cool the planet by reflecting away some sunlight, citing the lack of progress fighting global warming.
WASHINGTON — The idea of artificially cooling the planet to blunt climate change — in effect, blocking sunlight before it can warm the atmosphere — got a boost on Thursday when an influential scientific body urged the United States government to spend at least $100 million to research the technology.
That technology, often called solar geoengineering, entails reflecting more of the sun’s energy back into space through techniques that include injecting aerosols into the atmosphere. In a new report, the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine said that governments urgently need to know whether solar geoengineering could work and what the side effects might be.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/25/climate/geoengineering-sunlight.html
irvinehomeowner
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Highlander II: The Quickening
morekaos
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This should certainly help get prices down…Way to be proactive…very helpful…Thanks Boy King and Granpa Joe…
California sues 5 major oil companies, accuses them of deceiving public over the risks of fossil fuel use
he lawsuit, which was filed by the state’s Attorney General Rob Bonta in San Francisco County Superior Court, claims the defendants have created a public nuisance, damaged natural resources and state property and have violated California law by misleading state residents with false advertising and misleading environmental marketing.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/16/us/california-lawsuit-oil-companies/index.html
Biden drilling ban forces Democratic-led New Mexico to reckon with oil dependence
(Reuters) - When Stan Rounds heard about U.S. President Joe Biden’s plans to suspend new drilling on federal lands to fight climate change, he worried about the education budget
Rounds heads a state association of school administrators. He knows that New Mexico - home to the country’s richest oil fields on federal lands - depends heavily on drilling revenues to finance its struggling public schools. And budgets have already taken a hit from falling crude prices as the coronavirus pandemic sapped global fuel demand.
“While you appreciate the green policies for environmental issues, you can’t strangulate the revenue streams in New Mexico,” said Rounds, executive director of the New Mexico Coalition of Educational Leaders. “So we’re very concerned.”
www.reuters.com
California sues 5 major oil companies, accuses them of deceiving public over the risks of fossil fuel use
he lawsuit, which was filed by the state’s Attorney General Rob Bonta in San Francisco County Superior Court, claims the defendants have created a public nuisance, damaged natural resources and state property and have violated California law by misleading state residents with false advertising and misleading environmental marketing.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/16/us/california-lawsuit-oil-companies/index.html
Biden drilling ban forces Democratic-led New Mexico to reckon with oil dependence
(Reuters) - When Stan Rounds heard about U.S. President Joe Biden’s plans to suspend new drilling on federal lands to fight climate change, he worried about the education budget
Rounds heads a state association of school administrators. He knows that New Mexico - home to the country’s richest oil fields on federal lands - depends heavily on drilling revenues to finance its struggling public schools. And budgets have already taken a hit from falling crude prices as the coronavirus pandemic sapped global fuel demand.
“While you appreciate the green policies for environmental issues, you can’t strangulate the revenue streams in New Mexico,” said Rounds, executive director of the New Mexico Coalition of Educational Leaders. “So we’re very concerned.”
Biden drilling ban forces Democratic-led New Mexico to reckon with oil dependence
When Stan Rounds heard about U.S. President Joe Biden’s plans to suspend new drilling on federal lands to fight climate change, he worried about the education budget.
www.reuters.com
morekaos
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Kill the earth to save the earth….just one big scam….
EV Battery Factory Will Require So Much Energy It Needs A Coal Plant To Power It
A new electric vehicle battery factory in Kansas is demanding so much energy that the state is delaying the retirement of a coal plant to make sure the facility has enough power.
The Kansas City Star reports that the factory will require between 200 and 250 megawatts of electricity to operate. That’s roughly the amount of power needed for a small city.
In testimony to the Kansas City Corporation Commission, which is the state’s equivalent of the Wyoming Public Service Commission, a representative of Evergy, the utility serving the factory, said that the 4 million-square-foot Panasonic facility creates “near term challenges from a resource adequacy perspective,” according to the newspaper.
As a result, the utility will continue to burn coal at a power plant near Lawrence, Kansas, and it will delay plants to transition units at the plant to natural gas.
And environmentalists are not happy about that.
The situation reflects an ignored fact about EVs — they require enormous amounts of energy to produce.
A 15-pound lithium-ion battery holds about the same amount of energy as a pound of oil. To make that battery requires 7,000 pounds of rock and dirt to get the minerals that go into that battery. The average EV battery weighs around 1,000 pounds.
All of that mining and factory processing produces a lot more carbon dioxide emissions than a gas-powered car, so EVs have to be driven around 50,000 to 60,000 miles before there’s a net reduction in carbon dioxide emissions.
So, as more factories are built in the U.S. to supply EV manufacturers, there will be higher demands on the grid for power.
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/0...uch-energy-it-needs-a-coal-plant-to-power-it/
EV Battery Factory Will Require So Much Energy It Needs A Coal Plant To Power It
A new electric vehicle battery factory in Kansas is demanding so much energy that the state is delaying the retirement of a coal plant to make sure the facility has enough power.
The Kansas City Star reports that the factory will require between 200 and 250 megawatts of electricity to operate. That’s roughly the amount of power needed for a small city.
In testimony to the Kansas City Corporation Commission, which is the state’s equivalent of the Wyoming Public Service Commission, a representative of Evergy, the utility serving the factory, said that the 4 million-square-foot Panasonic facility creates “near term challenges from a resource adequacy perspective,” according to the newspaper.
As a result, the utility will continue to burn coal at a power plant near Lawrence, Kansas, and it will delay plants to transition units at the plant to natural gas.
And environmentalists are not happy about that.
The situation reflects an ignored fact about EVs — they require enormous amounts of energy to produce.
A 15-pound lithium-ion battery holds about the same amount of energy as a pound of oil. To make that battery requires 7,000 pounds of rock and dirt to get the minerals that go into that battery. The average EV battery weighs around 1,000 pounds.
All of that mining and factory processing produces a lot more carbon dioxide emissions than a gas-powered car, so EVs have to be driven around 50,000 to 60,000 miles before there’s a net reduction in carbon dioxide emissions.
So, as more factories are built in the U.S. to supply EV manufacturers, there will be higher demands on the grid for power.
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/0...uch-energy-it-needs-a-coal-plant-to-power-it/
irvinehomeowner
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Gotta' break some eggs...
morekaos
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Wonderful use of the American tax dollar..China must get a real belly laugh out of this economic suicide squad we have running our show…
Chinese plant planned for Manteno could receive $8 billion in subsidies, despite costing only $2 billion to build
Illinois politicians and members of the House Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party have raised concerns about the sizeable subsidies being granted to the Chinese electric vehicle battery maker, Gotion.
Gotion is linked to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and aims to build a $2 billion plant in Illinois while receiving $7.5 billion in federal tax credits, asserting that the U.S. government should not support CCP-backed companies expanding into key sectors like lithium-ion battery manufacturing.
This situation raises concerns about U.S. economic and national security and calls for changes in the legislation that created the 45X tax credit program, which led to generous handouts for battery factory projects, including Gotion’s.
“And to give that money to a Chinese company that is already subsidized by the Chinese government is a serious mistake. China’s goal is to dominate the global battery industry, and forcing American taxpayers to unwittingly fund the CCP’s ambitions is a direct threat to U.S. economic and national security.”
https://kankakeetimes.com/stories/6...idies-despite-costing-only-2-billion-to-build
Chinese plant planned for Manteno could receive $8 billion in subsidies, despite costing only $2 billion to build
Illinois politicians and members of the House Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party have raised concerns about the sizeable subsidies being granted to the Chinese electric vehicle battery maker, Gotion.
Gotion is linked to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and aims to build a $2 billion plant in Illinois while receiving $7.5 billion in federal tax credits, asserting that the U.S. government should not support CCP-backed companies expanding into key sectors like lithium-ion battery manufacturing.
This situation raises concerns about U.S. economic and national security and calls for changes in the legislation that created the 45X tax credit program, which led to generous handouts for battery factory projects, including Gotion’s.
“And to give that money to a Chinese company that is already subsidized by the Chinese government is a serious mistake. China’s goal is to dominate the global battery industry, and forcing American taxpayers to unwittingly fund the CCP’s ambitions is a direct threat to U.S. economic and national security.”
https://kankakeetimes.com/stories/6...idies-despite-costing-only-2-billion-to-build