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Makes me pause consider buying a new house in OH.

What's the name of the wood from the first pic? Rise at Great Park

Would you say a lot of people defer to future phases? I am just trying to gauge how many on the list are still serious.

Cetara is not going to be low 2s for the view lots when you did all the upgrades, shutters, draperies, landscaping, etc(easily more than mid 2s). You can't do a pool if you want to.

For me, it's both the lack of back yard and the 2 car garages that is holding me back. Most people use part of their garage for storage. So, space for 1 car. If you have a longer driveway, that may work. But these driveways barely fits the length of a car. It's pretty disappointing. But again...

But after upgrades and landscape, it will more than likely>$500/sf.

That seems like a very aggressive price hike per phase and they may not be able to keep up the interest. I still find there is a little more hype than substance for this community. Like you guys said, 2 car garages and really tiny lots. But people are probably impressed with the model homes...

I see. So, people are potentially waiting beyond phase 7.

When you say big lots, are you talking about the non-view lots at the end of the cul-de-sac? Otherwise, every other lots seem pretty small.

Seems like getting a view lot is impossible if you are not already on the list before the grand opening.

I think there are some people that can prequalify for being contingent. Maybe Kris has the info.

So basically are you saying if you are not on the list, don't bother?

Just keep in mind, the back edge of your lot is literally about 5 or so steps away from your house.

Anyone notice most of these lots really has tiny or "no" back yard. Would that be a deal breaker?

Hopefully, we will soon see him gone and should be banned to ever sign up again.

Location-good. Floor plans- failed. I too would wait for builders other than Irvine Pacific.

Those windows are spectacular. Expensive, but well worth it if you can afford. You can't get that from Lennar or any other builders in Irvine.

You guys must never read brochures or find out what TB offered as standard vs upgrades at OH and Hidden Canyons. Altair include Caesarstone kitchen countertops, quartz countertops in all bathrooms, upgraded Shaw carpets, upgraded cabinetry, stacking doors, free-standing tub, curbless shower to...

Toll is including an awful lot of upgrades which we haven't seen at HC or OH. These upgrades easily negate at least a few years of higher mello-loos. In addition, there is definitely an appeal of not just being new, but also very trendy (way more updated than HC or Vistas) with their...

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