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What type of alternative fuel car are you buying in the near future?

  • All electric (EV) car, luxury over $50k like Tesla

    Votes: 27 54.0%

  • EV car but lower priced less than $40k like Chevy Bolt, Nissan Leaf, Hyundai Ioniq

    Votes: 12 24.0%

  • Plug-in Hybrid (Chevy Volt, Kia Niro, Honda Clarity)

    Votes: 4 8.0%

  • Hydrogen

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 7 14.0%
  • Total voters
    50
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Tesla deliveries in Europe falling.

Competition outside the US is tough from Chinese EVs and Elon antics not helping.

They probably should have done the Model 2 instead of the CT.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Tesla deliveries in Europe falling.

Competition outside the US is tough from Chinese EVs and Elon antics not helping.

They probably should have done the Model 2 instead of the CT.
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The Chinese EVs offer perhaps the best quality to price ratio. What happens if they are allowed in Europe, Canada, Mexico, the US?
 
zovall said:
The Chinese EVs offer perhaps the best quality to price ratio. What happens if they are allowed in Europe, Canada, Mexico, the US?
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Stellantis acquired 20% of Leapmotor and is building one of their compact car (T03) and a small SUV (C10) in a Stellantis factory in Poland. That way they avoid any tariffs that would apply to Chinese cars in Europe. For €18K (tax included) + local EV incentives it's difficult to beat and I don't see how the local manufacturers compete.

Leapmotor T03 | Electric City Car | Leapmotor UK

Discover the Leapmotor T03: a compact yet spacious, economical, and eco-friendly electric city car offering a 395 km range, advanced safety features.
www.leapmotor.net
 
irvinehomeowner said:
We will see who blinks first:

electrek.co

Despite tariffs, GM continues to produce EVs in Mexico [update]

Despite the will-they, won't-they uncertainty surrounding the future of tariffs, GM says it has no plans to move EV production from Mexico.
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The whole prospect of trying to shift auto manufacturing (ICE and EV) back to the US is going to be tough. As the US EV market continues to grow, GM may have to retool US factories.
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That's the easy part. Getting rid of unions is the hard part.
 
Coming after the Ford Maverick:

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Slate’s New Pickup To Start at “Under $20,000” – But Are Americans Ready to Return to the Days of Hand-Cranked Windows? - Headlight.news

Forget power windows. Bezos-backed Slate's EV pickup is a low-tech retro affair picking up on the '70s-era trucks that won over Baby Boomers.
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Toyota going head to head against competition in China:
www.motortrend.com

The Cheapest Toyota EV Just Went on Sale for Under $20,000

The unbelievable price of the 2026 Toyota bZ3X just made it popular enough to crash its ordering servers in–guess where—China.
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At Just $15,000, This is the Affordable Toyota EV You Can’t Have - Headlight.news

The new Toyota bZ3X has a base price of just $15,000 even with 267 miles range. But don't go looking for it unless you live in China for now.
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carnewschina.com

Toyota signs agreement with Shanghai: wholly-owned Lexus EV factory to begin production in 2027

The second major foreign automaker after Tesla to operate independently in China
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Saw an IG post on the Slate today. Versatile, functional, priced right... This car will be a license to print money.
 

“In other words, the SUV’s seats, structure and roof make it heavier, increasing energy consumption. But its streamlined shape also makes it slice through the air more efficiently. At the end of the day, you can expect a “small percentage” more driving range in the SUV, Keipper said.”



For comparison, NMC batteries last 800-2,500 cycles vs LFP at 3,000-6,000 cycles. But 98% of LFP battery components are imported from China so to qualify for $7500 Fed tax credit, they have to use NMC battery made in the US.
 
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GM outselling Tesla in Canada:

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GM takes over as the '#1 EV seller' in Canada

After its electric vehicle sales more than doubled in the first quarter, GM claims it’s now the “#1 EV seller”...
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And becoming the fastest growing brand in the US:

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Chevy is the fastest-growing EV brand in the US right now

The fastest-growing EV brand in the US is not Tesla or Rivian. It’s GM’s Chevrolet. With the electric Equinox, Blazer,...
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I still think they messed up by not offering CarPlay and AndroidAuto.
 
Bill changes could not only affect $7500 buy credit (which is very restrictive) but also lease loophole. Let's see what happens when some of the cheese is taken away.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Did you fact check your coal opinion?

And even if true, at least it's not fossil fuel on top of coal.
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In the time it took you to type that post you could have googled the source of electricity generation in China.

China used coal to generate 58% of it's electricity in 2024. China emitted 5,640 metric tons of CO2 emissions in 2024, the most ever on record in a year.

https://ember-energy.org/countries-and-regions/china/

China doesn't care about the environment. They don't care about EVs. They care only about propping up their economy and destroying the west. They want to be the world super power.
 
Climate is about to get thrown under the bus. The smell of desperation just pushes the drill, baby drill scenario. Economics always beats emotion.👍🏽😂😂😂🇺🇸

Three Mile Island nuclear plant will reopen to power Microsoft data centers​

Three Mile Island, the power plant near Middletown, Pa., that was the scene of the worst commercial nuclear accident in U.S. history, will reopen to power Microsoft's data centers, which are responsible for powering the tech giant's cloud computing and artificial intelligence programs.

Constellation Energy, which bills itself as America's largest producer of "clean, carbon-free energy," announced Friday that it had signed its largest-ever power purchase agreement with Microsoft.

 
morekaos said:
…all power powered by coal👍🏽😂😂😂🦄🌈
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someguy said:
China used coal to generate 58% of it's electricity in 2024.
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So not "all" powered by coal.

That's why I asked him to fact check... because not many things are "all" or "never" (like certain people like to claim).

And I agree that EVs are not all about climate... it's also about convenience, better driving experience, less maintenance etc.... IYKYK.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
So not "all" powered by coal.

That's why I asked him to fact check... because not many things are "all" or "never" (like certain people like to claim).

And I agree that EVs are not all about climate... it's also about convenience, better driving experience, less maintenance etc.... IYKYK.
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Seriously, you are paring words to try and refute a point? Like saying obliterated can’t be taken seriously?…typical🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🙈😂😂😂
 
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