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[quote author="graceomalley"]I actually have 101 design flaws to whine regarding the floor plan you bought. However, I will only post after you all close the deal by then it would be too late. It is always nice to see buyers with some regrets like that TV blocking the window or hung too high in Fe's Montecito plan. A bunch of people after the TIC's focus groups voiced how much they do not approve the TV above the fireplace. Good luck in selling your home in resale. There is no remedy for that. So every time when Fe and AJ turn on the TV make sure to think about me!

BTW, the future projects will no longer have the TV above the fireplace. You all just bought a short lived Palm Pilot.
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Yes, I will remember you. I have never been satisfied with the TV thing with the house we bought. To this day I still give my wife a hard time about it. But it's more like poking fun at it but anything serious. Of the architect people I have talked to, my uncle, and friends, they all said TV over fireplace is not practical. They look good in a picture that's all. Not having a TV wall in our future home is a design flaw. That doesn't take a architect to see. Still it's the house we bought and we will deal with it. One thing I would to say though, what Grace have shared with us either the IHB or here, are really valuable. You will have to pay to get it. Not unless you know such a person as a friend of course. This is not kissing Grace's butt or anything, just saying that I really appreciated. Oh by the way, restroom off of entry is bad feng shui but is it only bad if it's to the right side? consider I am walking outside from the house. Thanks.
 
[quote author="graceomalley"]Thank you Fe for your kind words and accepting my comments. I feel like a Simon Cowell of TI. [/quote]

And he makes the big bucks and keep the show going. I hope you stick around. Panda and CK leaving the blog is just shocking to me. Well, it's a public posting area right? Even CK said, we need to be tough enough to take a few punches. I am still here.
 
My best advice here is to take what anyone posts with thick skin... especially BKGrace. While he speaks the brutal truth... there are times when he colors his responses in way that makes it a personal insult.

As for CK... I'm sad to see him go... as he was one of the few who could back up my Irvinite lifestyle.

My take on this whole thread is that there is a lot of mud-slinging going around and I just hope this doesn't make other posters leave. Disagreements happen... and I honestly don't blame mike for using "whiners" because of all the shots BK threw. I actually feel mike has been pretty even-keeled considering some of the things BK has been posting but as other members have pointed out... not everyone agrees with either side.

The one thing BK can't deny, despite any architectural shortcomings, is that what usually matters most is location. He'll bend to density in a place like New York City... and maybe that's where the threshold is for other people with the HK Collection. Just make sure you can afford your living expenses and don't stretch yourself on the premise that Irvine values will always go up.

For most people like CK and myself who just want to raise our families in a nice area, your home is where you live... not where you invest. It's just the people who think otherwise that are making it hard for us to live here.
 
[quote author="graceomalley"]

Trace,
I would rather work for nothing and one word of "thank you" than to get paid $ 1 mill to work for you.[/quote]

where is that "thanks" button when you need it?
 
[quote author="makesense"]3). My math is good, so I prefer 200k@8% to 400k@4%, I will be able to get value that is closer to price;
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Do you honestly think that in Irvine, prices will drop proportionately to interest rates? Your math needs more variables.

5). It scares me when I saw my friend's house went down to $400k from $800, where he is holding it while he is able to afford a CB at $200k without hesitation........more.....TBC
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Was this in Irvine? I don't see many $800k places going for $400k right now. Please illuminate.
 
[quote author="graceomalley"]QW,

The most experience housing knowledge related members have all left. From Graph-Panda-CK etc. They all did not leave because of me. I am not here for my business gain. I am only here to save the lost souls in housing. So is this the persecution and tribulation period?[/quote]

Cmon Grace - "persecution and tribulation period?" - i think that is what you were doing to mike/traci, etc. Lets grow a little bit thicker skin. If you are going to throw spears be prepared to receive them.

Listen, as i have said before, i certainly appreciate your input on housing, i have learned a great deal from your posts and sincerely hope you continue to post here. Im sure others here feel the same way. With that said, it gets a little annoying when you continuously tell people they dont know what the hell they are doing when they are purchasing a new home in woodbury or somewhere else. You have to admit, it is a bit condescending and elitist, as if you opinion is better than someone elses. Especially when it comes to a matter of personal preference. My favorite burger is fatburger, if you are an In-N-Out person, i can try to persuade that fatburger is king till im blue in the face, but it wont do any good, because you are right and i am right, those are just our personal preferences.
 
[quote author="graceomalley"]I am into art and culture.

I would take the trade-off to live in a NY City density arrangement because the Apple Store, Christian Louboutin, and the Metropolitan Museum are all within 3 minutes walk. I even like its pocket Central Park.

I hope you are not using Irvine to represent charming house because that would be the biggest joke.

The only charming thing in Irvine are your, CK, IR2 and RC's kids.[/quote]

Correct, I am not using Irvine to represent the charming house but rather, the other side: some give up the charming house in a less expensive / more remote area so that they can have other benefits of the location (yes, I know you will say there is no culture here <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->) but it may be distance to work, it may be convenience to stores and other establishments which you have helped to implement for the target demographic. It is not a strong draw for me personally but I can recognize why it is for those that it was specifically designed for.

Cute kids? Flattery will get you.... everywhere. Be careful or I will take up your wife's generous offer to babysit both at the same time at your house. ;D
 
[quote author="graceomalley"]Thank you Fe for your kind words and accepting my comments. I feel like a Simon Cowell of TI. [/quote]

Very well put. And like i told my wife, American Idol is not going to the same without him - so in case you are considering leaving, you have to stay - it wont be the same with out you. And no im not kissing his ass. A part of me does like the jabs he throws at people, just not in excess.
 
[quote author="fe9000"] Panda and CK leaving the blog is just shocking to me. Well, it's a public posting area right? Even CK said, we need to be tough enough to take a few punches. I am still here.[/quote]

I am happy for Panda and glad he's been a part of the site as long as he has. He has got some good things coming his way soon... twin babies... and needs to use his time very wisely now. He is a smart guy to do so. I hope we have more like him in the future.
 
[quote author="qwerty"][...] it gets a little annoying when you continuously tell people they dont know what the hell they are doing when they are purchasing a new home in woodbury or somewhere else. You have to admit, it is a bit condescending and elitist, as if you opinion is better than someone elses. Especially when it comes to a matter of personal preference. My favorite burger is fatburger, if you are an In-N-Out person, i can try to persuade that fatburger is king till im blue in the face, but it wont do any good, because you are right and i am right, those are just our personal preferences.[/quote]
qwerty must be my twin... I remember saying the same things when I ran into BK at the IHB on several occasions.

In fact, I just recently had this conversation elsewhere with another ex-IHBer about Irvine and he got pwned... hard. When it comes down to it, personal preferences tend to beat math, science, architecture... and sadly... financial fundamentals.

Me: Would you rather have 2 small candies or 1 HUGE one!
Kid: TWO!
Me: But the one candy is almost four times bigger than the two combined.
Kid: But two is still more than one!
 
[quote author="graceomalley"]Modernist are never into practicality. These images are sterile like that house hanging over the Hollywood hill cliff.

secondly, I would not be able to improve housing except to post here so the TIC troll who monitor this site can take my suggestions to improve their products for the future generations. TIC's method of operation is like the China Cultural Revolution: persecute the vocals, intellectuals and promote the naives.

Trace,
I would rather work for nothing and one word of "thank you" than to get paid $ 1 mill to work for you.[/quote]

I like to think I am a reasonably polite person, and I say thank you when a thank you is due.

So here ya go: thank you for your contributions to this forum. However, I think you are overstepping your bounds.

You are nice to those who agree with you/kiss up to you, and you insult those who don't. It's not that I agree with you or don't agree with you about Woodbury houses, but I do think we should all respect each other's opinions. I think that respect has been lacking on your end.

For those who worry about BK leaving: ha! He couldn't tear himself away!
 
[quote author="irvinehomeowner"]
[quote author="qwerty"][...] it gets a little annoying when you continuously tell people they dont know what the hell they are doing when they are purchasing a new home in woodbury or somewhere else. You have to admit, it is a bit condescending and elitist, as if you opinion is better than someone elses. Especially when it comes to a matter of personal preference. My favorite burger is fatburger, if you are an In-N-Out person, i can try to persuade that fatburger is king till im blue in the face, but it wont do any good, because you are right and i am right, those are just our personal preferences.[/quote]
qwerty must be my twin... I remember saying the same things when I ran into BK at the IHB on several occasions.

In fact, I just recently had this conversation elsewhere with another ex-IHBer about Irvine and he got pwned... hard. When it comes down to it, personal preferences tend to beat math, science, architecture... and sadly... financial fundamentals.

Me: Would you rather have 2 small candies or 1 HUGE one!
Kid: TWO!
Me: But the one candy is almost four times bigger than the two combined.
Kid: But two is still more than one!
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IHO, I was going to save my 100th post on something really good. But I decided to use it on you. You conversation example is awesome. I just like to add one more thing. The kid may not know it, but deep down, the kid knows that with 1 big candy, the kid can't finish it all and it will go to waste. Picking two, eat one and save another one for another time. <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->

By the way, did you make it to the open house today? If so, head over to the Irvine Open House thread and let's talk Grape Arbor.
 
[quote author="irvinehomeowner"]My best advice here is to take what anyone posts with thick skin... especially BKGrace. While he speaks the brutal truth... there are times when he colors his responses in way that makes it a personal insult.

As for CK... I'm sad to see him go... as he was one of the few who could back up my Irvinite lifestyle.

My take on this whole thread is that there is a lot of mud-slinging going around and I just hope this doesn't make other posters leave. Disagreements happen... and I honestly don't blame mike for using "whiners" because of all the shots BK threw. I actually feel mike has been pretty even-keeled considering some of the things BK has been posting but as other members have pointed out... not everyone agrees with either side.

The one thing BK can't deny, despite any architectural shortcomings, is that what usually matters most is location. He'll bend to density in a place like New York City... and maybe that's where the threshold is for other people with the HK Collection. Just make sure you can afford your living expenses and don't stretch yourself on the premise that Irvine values will always go up.

For most people like CK and myself who just want to raise our families in a nice area, your home is where you live... not where you invest. It's just the people who think otherwise that are making it hard for us to live here.[/quote]

The master Scheming is more like it. UCI was the pee on UC of the entire UC system. The under achievers attended UCI before the early 80's. Since then it came up the rank of the system attracted Asian students from older cities.

Upon graduation many settled in Irvine for career and eventually fuel the demand for buying their first home. The demand is a never ending cycle.

The location is a perception commodity. It could not sustain being a best seller forever. What goes up must come down. It is just a matter of when.
 
[quote author="graceomalley"]
[quote author="irvinehomeowner"]My best advice here is to take what anyone posts with thick skin... especially BKGrace. While he speaks the brutal truth... there are times when he colors his responses in way that makes it a personal insult.

As for CK... I'm sad to see him go... as he was one of the few who could back up my Irvinite lifestyle.

My take on this whole thread is that there is a lot of mud-slinging going around and I just hope this doesn't make other posters leave. Disagreements happen... and I honestly don't blame mike for using "whiners" because of all the shots BK threw. I actually feel mike has been pretty even-keeled considering some of the things BK has been posting but as other members have pointed out... not everyone agrees with either side.

The one thing BK can't deny, despite any architectural shortcomings, is that what usually matters most is location. He'll bend to density in a place like New York City... and maybe that's where the threshold is for other people with the HK Collection. Just make sure you can afford your living expenses and don't stretch yourself on the premise that Irvine values will always go up.

For most people like CK and myself who just want to raise our families in a nice area, your home is where you live... not where you invest. It's just the people who think otherwise that are making it hard for us to live here.[/quote]

The master Scheming is more like it. UCI was the pee on UC of the entire UC system. The under achievers attended UCI before the early 80's. Since then it came up the rank of the system attracted Asian students from older cities.

Upon graduation many settled in Irvine for career and eventually fuel the demand for buying their first home. The demand is a never ending cycle.

The location is a perception commodity. It could not sustain being a best seller forever. What goes up must come down. It is just a matter of when.

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What about companies setting up HQ here? I have heard it once before that Irvine may be the silicon valley of SoCal. Using silicon valley or bay area as examples, their real estate is still very expensive, and I think it has a lot to do with jobs up there. Yes, after the .com bubble burst, it suffered but it's still expensive right? Again to an untrained eye, if Irvine gets to that level, it will be tough to come down isn't it?
 
[quote author="graceomalley"]
The location is a perception commodity. It could not sustain being a best seller forever. What goes up must come down. It is just a matter of when.
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While this may be true... probably not in my lifetime.

And by that time... who knows what will be the new hawtness... maybe a Tuscan-style 1 story ranch house with 3 Master bedrooms (for both in-laws) on a 10 acre lot... on the moon.

Palm is still around... and its Pilot created a new market that others may have surpassed them in... but they still owe it to them. I'll let my kids's kids worry about where the next Apple is.
 
Fe,

My projects are all in the Silicon Valley and I know what you are saying.

Do you know about Buena park/Fullerton in the 1960's. Johnson and Johnson, Nabisco, Kraft Foods, Hubell, Sunkist, Procter and Gamble, Hughes Aircrafts, Sara Lee, Luckys, Safeways, Hitachi, General Electric were all in the North OC area. Sheeple of that era bought master planned communities in La Mirada, Buena Park, Anaheim and Fullerton. Some of the neighborhoods and the corporate campuses were even planned by William Periera the architect for Irvine. All the corporations left the area by the 90's. Now the children and grand children of the early North OC pioneers are your neighbors. The families thought they found utopia way back then. Good suburb schools, safety, new homes, good jobs, and the happiest place on earth is near by.



Silicon Valley lost some corporations to Pleasanton due to lower operating cost and lower salary demand. The affluent area of Atherton, Hillsborough, and Los Gatos are homes of the management to many tech companies that made the boring area like San Jose, Santa Clara, Fremont, Milpitus, Cupertino, and Sunnyvale the ideal places for Asian sheeple and other peeon middle management living in their over priced Ticky Tacky stucco boxes.

The same also hold true for So OC. Newport and Laguna are nesting ground for CEO's of tech, home builders, and other companies Irvine and vicinities are for the mid management peeons.
 
[quote author="irvinehomeowner"]
[quote author="qwerty"][...] it gets a little annoying when you continuously tell people they dont know what the hell they are doing when they are purchasing a new home in woodbury or somewhere else. You have to admit, it is a bit condescending and elitist, as if you opinion is better than someone elses. Especially when it comes to a matter of personal preference. My favorite burger is fatburger, if you are an In-N-Out person, i can try to persuade that fatburger is king till im blue in the face, but it wont do any good, because you are right and i am right, those are just our personal preferences.[/quote]
qwerty must be my twin... I remember saying the same things when I ran into BK at the IHB on several occasions.

In fact, I just recently had this conversation elsewhere with another ex-IHBer about Irvine and he got pwned... hard. When it comes down to it, personal preferences tend to beat math, science, architecture... and sadly... financial fundamentals.

Me: Would you rather have 2 small candies or 1 HUGE one!
Kid: TWO!
Me: But the one candy is almost four times bigger than the two combined.
Kid: But two is still more than one!
[/quote]

Hey consider yourself lucky that we were in the same room for only ONE occasion.

Me: One
IHO: Several
Me One
IHO several
Me: I still have my sight
IHO: I can't argue about that
 
Assuming the above is true - does anyone know where the next enclave for Japanese may be ? One of the biggest attractors to the area for us is the availability of Japanese / Japanese schools. I need to make sure that my children retain their Japanese roots, this cannot be done by speaking with the Japanese Grandma weekly by phone or in twice yearly visits.
 
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