Tustin ranch

[quote author="bkshopr" date=1251078114]Regarding earthquakes many homes in Socal have not experienced the first devastating earthquake. Homes that survived a few big earthquakes will likely to withstand some future ones. I do not see too many problems with structures but the major failure I predict will be on the land settlement.





Todays land cost is so high that moving mountains and chopping hills to maximize lot count is profitable. Land normally would require years to compact itself and allowing years for rainfall to set proper drainage course were prematurely set out for building in just a matter of days. Concrete foundation requiring at least 90 days to cure was set for framing just after 2 days may likely develop many future issues.



Post tensioned concrete slab will hide many problems and when the symptoms do show up its often too late.</blockquote>


After our last mild earthquake (I think it was the Whitter fault. I don't remember the size, 4 or 5 I believe). The cracks in the sidewalk and sport courts widened quite a bit. I also noticed some shifting in the stairs. I'm on the third floor so I pretty much a goner. Hopefully we be out of here before a big quake and into our single story redwood made home.
 
[quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1251118856][quote author="bkshopr" date=1251018314]Gimme gimme gimme 3CWG on the last plan.</blockquote>
<em>"You underestimate the power of the 3CWG side."</em></blockquote>


We like a four car garage better with an attic loft for storage. The extra two car could be converted to a man cave. There is no water heater in my garage just in case I pass out from drinking. We never park the car inside either. It is just a vacant garage that I don't use and I am so disgusted of myself that my fellow IHBers are struggling with parking that I have way to much space that I don't even know what to do with.



We do not even store the most used Costco items out in the garage because we have a basement just for that.
 
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We do not even store the most uses Costco items out in the garage because we have a basement just for that.</blockquote>


What other neighborhoods in California can I find a house with a basement?
 
[quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1251167321]Stop making me jealous.</blockquote>


Big price to pay to buy a stamp in Irvine.
 
[quote author="ABC123" date=1251168270][quote author="bkshopr" date=1251165864]



We do not even store the most uses Costco items out in the garage because we have a basement just for that.</blockquote>


What other neighborhoods in California can I find a house with a basement?</blockquote>


Many neighborhoods before the invention of slab foundations.
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1251097335]Old school hillside development like Villa Park, Fullerton, and oldest part of Tustin Hills are less likely to have settlement issues because gradings were kept to a minimal and vegetation and natural slopes were left alone</blockquote>Is that why Circula Panorama is so much cheaper than other Tustin hillside areas ? Relatively recent and crappy grading by inexperienced developers ? Many vacant lots for sale up there.
 
[quote author="ABC123" date=1251169842]How stable are the houses built in Turtle Ridge and Quail Hill?</blockquote>


Civil engineering practices always recommend a sufficient amount of time for the land to settle and drainage pattern to be re-established. It is also recommended the slope be no greater than 2 to 1. Most new communities in general were built in a rush and I am generalizing for most production home hillside neighborhoods. It is usually the minimal standards were met and the engineers were well compensated for the risk. In places where the slope is greater than 2 to1 a concrete grated loffel wall retaing wall systen was used to create more buildable land.
 
Will the houses built in Orchard Hills and Laguna Crossing have any stability/foundation issues due to quick grading and wanting to build while people are wanting to buy?
 
[quote author="ABC123" date=1251171672]Will the houses built in Orchard Hills and Laguna Crossing have any stability/foundation issues due to quick grading and wanting to build while people are wanting to buy?</blockquote>


I will not comment on these 2 neighborhoods.



I will answer your question if you are one of the 11 responded to my salary poll making over $600k.
 
From my observation as a unemployed feng shui fortune teller without much technical merit observing vacant hillside parcels in general not affiliated with any organization the graded lots will benefit from being vacant for a few years. Since the lots were manufactured erosion will take place. When the builders do build on it someday contour adjustment will be made to match the intended elevations to the finish lots.
 
Dont you think that any new development, currently, by any builder, would be successful in Fountain Valley?



If you build it, they will come!



[quote author="bkshopr" date=1251021559]KB knows its demographic profile. Look at Tremont in FV. It was a big success. KB is not interested in building long term legacy neighborhoods and the bottom line is $$$$$$$$$$$. Give the consumers a third car garage and it will distract the buyers from seeing all other 999 flaws with the homes.



KB is bad news. One of my staff was the former director of product development for KB (He did it for $$$). He knew everything about this company and those are are interested in having KB in their community will be a big mistake. It is like bringing a 99 Cents store to SCP.</blockquote>
 
[quote author="rickhunter" date=1251174110]Dont you think that any new development, currently, by any builder, would be successful in Fountain Valley?



If you build it, they will come!



[quote author="bkshopr" date=1251021559]KB knows its demographic profile. Look at Tremont in FV. It was a big success. KB is not interested in building long term legacy neighborhoods and the bottom line is $$$$$$$$$$$. Give the consumers a third car garage and it will distract the buyers from seeing all other 999 flaws with the homes.



KB is bad news. One of my staff was the former director of product development for KB (He did it for $$$). He knew everything about this company and those are are interested in having KB in their community will be a big mistake. It is like bringing a 99 Cents store to SCP.</blockquote></blockquote>


That is almost correct. Wrong floor plans not addressing the multi generational living will fail even in FV.



I do not endorse KB but I knew since the beginning Tremont would be a success. The focus is to analyze and factoring in every element before making a prediction.



So far I have not been wrong except for a temporarily delay in Woodbury East in reaching the attached housing bench mark pricing of $330/sf. Trust me TIC will raise prices to meet this goal. It is around $300/sf in phase 2 of Ivy.
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1251172045][quote author="ABC123" date=1251171672]Will the houses built in Orchard Hills and Laguna Crossing have any stability/foundation issues due to quick grading and wanting to build while people are wanting to buy?</blockquote>


I will not comment on these 2 neighborhoods.

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So I shouldn't get too attached to Quail Hill either?



<em>"The Vicaras are falling! The Vicaras are falling!"</em>
 
[quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1251175267][quote author="bkshopr" date=1251172045][quote author="ABC123" date=1251171672]Will the houses built in Orchard Hills and Laguna Crossing have any stability/foundation issues due to quick grading and wanting to build while people are wanting to buy?</blockquote>


I will not comment on these 2 neighborhoods.

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So I shouldn't get too attached to Quail Hill either?



<em>"The Vicaras are falling! The Vicaras are falling!"</em></blockquote>


The back of the home may slip off and what wll be left is the 3 car garage like your avatar.
 
I ran into old man Lusk from time to time. He built homes like Shapell and so did Macco. I can't say that they were great builders. They were builders not into MBAs running their company. Their era were the post and beam era with aluminum windows. If they were the good builders then technology of that era would have failed them despite of how well they swung that hammer.
 
[quote author="garrison" date=1251189621]I'll owe you a beer or three at the next block party for your opinions. Thanks!</blockquote>


I feel like I owe BK a big plate of delicious Chinese chicken feet for helping me with all my questions.



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