Agree too from what I've seen. But like I mentioned upthread, Irvine is coming around with sports so they are academics + (some) sports. The Irvine demo is definitely dumping money and time into sports - you see it with a lot of Ivy/good D3 college commitments. Yes, I know no sports scholarships for either but college money is fungible (aid, grants, etc). Catholics and coastal OC will still dominate sports esp in the headcount scholarship sports which I think are men's football, men's bball, women's volleyball, women's tennis and women's gymnastics. All of which require height and size (minus gymnastics).