Tesla

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Time to cash out the 401K
 
The California Court Company said:
Paris driving the D; no more #guardgate and she would've smoked the other driver before he even had a chance following her home
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I would like to congratulate Paris for picking up her very own TI stalker after only just a few weeks on this board.
Good Job!

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Rice Vino said:
691 hp. 1/4 mile in 11.8 seconds. 0-60 in 3.2 seconds.http://jalopnik.com/tesla-model-s-p85d-this-is-it-and-i-went-for-a-ride-1644637002

Holy shit this thing fast.

Best part is 2 motors gets more regen = more range. What not to love here?
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It sounds like an electric appliance.

Real car drinks fossil fuels, puff smoke through exhaust pipe and had an engine that roar. :)

Just saw a Lamborghini Aventador at SCP the other day.  It sounds incredible.  6.5 litter V12, 690 hp, and 11 MPG city.  Awesome.
 
lnc said:
Rice Vino said:
691 hp. 1/4 mile in 11.8 seconds. 0-60 in 3.2 seconds.http://jalopnik.com/tesla-model-s-p85d-this-is-it-and-i-went-for-a-ride-1644637002

Holy shit this thing fast.

Best part is 2 motors gets more regen = more range. What not to love here?
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It sounds like an electric appliance.

Real car drinks fossil fuels, puff smoke through exhaust pipe and had an engine that roar. :)

Just saw a Lamborghini Aventador at SCP the other day.  It sounds incredible.  6.5 litter V12, 690 hp, and 11 MPG city.  Awesome.
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Glad you liked my car :)  I was going to DTF with my wife. 
 
Tesla might be cooking the book.

The waiting list and wait time might be just a marketing ploy, Tesla could be sitting on 3,000 unsold cars

Waiting times for a Tesla are legend. If you believe the on-line chatter.  But then, Lovallo started going through the books, and he found that ?Tesla?s finished goods inventory at the end of 3Q appears to tell a different story.

According to Merrill?s estimates, Tesla could have ?approximately 3K vehicles stocked in inventory or in transit,? the brokerage house writes in a research note distributed to clients.

Tesla?s recent extremely attractive lease offers, along with the fabled 3-month happiness guarantee, gives further credence to the suspicion that buyers of electric Tesla cars are not as eager as they were said to be.

Tesla may be different than the rest of the auto industry, but in the rest of the auto industry, a happiness guarantee means that not everybody is happy, and that attractive leases are discounts in drag. If people are really lining up to buy, ask more money, not less.

? What little money Tesla is making comes from selling regulatory credits, not from selling cars, the research note says, and it continues: ?Tesla has found it challenging to earn money on its vehicles, which could ultimately prove to be the biggest risk for the company and the pure electric vehicle market at large.?
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morekaos said:
Mark my words..that company will COLLAPSE.
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Anyone considering short TSLA?  This is almost feel like a sure bet.

David Stockman Tears Apart Tesla
Tesla?a crony capitalist con job that has long been insolvent and has survived only by dint of prodigious taxpayer subsidies and billions of free money from the Fed?s Wall Street casino.

Not surprisingly, the speculative mania on Wall Street has reached such absurd lengths that Tesla is being heralded and valued as the second coming of Apple and its circus barker CEO, Elon Musk, as the next Henry Ford.

the various Tesla models currently on the market carry price tags of $75k to more than $100k. So they are essentially vanity toys for the wealthy?a form of conspicuous consumption for the ?all things green? crowd.

But notwithstanding all the hype on Wall Street, there was nothing remotely evident in its financials that justified Tesla?s $35 billion peak market cap.

Tesla?s valuation was patently absurd. Yet the gamblers piled in based on the utterly improbable assumption that oil would remain at $115 per barrel forever; that a mass market for electric battery autos would soon develop; and that none of the powerhouse marketing and engineering companies like BMW, Toyota, or even Ford would contest Tesla for market share at standard industry profit margins.

So let?s see. Tesla?s CY 2014 sales totaled $3.2 billion, meaning that you would need to bet on a 16x gain in sales over the next few years and that today?s ragtag startup manufacturing operation could achieve levels of efficiency, quality, and reliability that it has taken Toyota 60 years to perfect. Yet take one hard look at Tesla?s historical financials and it is blindingly evident that there is no reason for such an assumption whatsoever.

In fact, Tesla is not a Toyota in the making: it is a Wall Street scam in plain sight. It has been a public filer for seven years now, and here are the horrific figures from its financial statements.
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It's like 3 years late...
Now that cheapo version... High hopes for that as it'll replace my daily driver
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Looks like the X will come out Sept 30.

Still wondering if those doors will hit my garage racks.
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No worries, the hackers will steer it somewhere else before it even gets into your garage!
 
Boss green lit the tesla for our next car, can't wait!  Gonna test drive the model S hopefully this weekend, what's the wait list like for the X?
 
ps9 said:
Boss green lit the tesla for our next car, can't wait!  Gonna test drive the model S hopefully this weekend, what's the wait list like for the X?
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I believe it depends on if you want the Signature or a regular model. Going to be months, maybe a year? Picked up an 85D a couple months ago and love it.
 
I wouldn't buy the X yet... Too new and the wait list is long from what I heard.  Maybe look at some pre owned model s.  It's gonna be my wife's primary car, so the S should be a perfect fit, that is if she likes driving it. 

If buying new, probably go for the cheapest model with no upgrades to maximize the federal tax incentive.  Or maybe a lease?  Not sure about that, never done a lease before
 
ps9 said:
Autopilot enabled?  If so how was it?
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Yep, only option I got. Works pretty well, definitely has a ways to go though. Sometimes can't "see" the lanes. But generally very good from stop and go to cruising speeds. Makes traffic much less stressful.

Here's a video I took of the new Summon auto park feature:
https://youtu.be/O5PktkOTOho
 
@Sub

Did you debate at all when ordering your Tesla?  For a similar price we can get a nicely equipped 5 series, GS, or Q70. 
 
ps9 said:
@Sub

Did you debate at all when ordering your Tesla?  For a similar price we can get a nicely equipped 5 series, GS, or Q70.
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No, like many Tesla owners, it's way more than I ever thought I would ever spend on a car. I was looking at a Fusion Energi or Volt but too small, trunk doesn't have enough room for a stroller.

I was never into luxury cars and frankly if you're going to spend $40-50k+ on a car, I don't see why you wouldn't get a Tesla. The other luxury cars don't get you a carpool lane sticker, don't get you $10k in rebates, don't save you on gas, don't give you an 8 year, unlimited mile warranty on the expensive parts, don't get you the safest car ever built or optional 7 seats. You'll still need to do maintenance like oil changes, spark plugs, transmission fluid, etc, you won't have as much acceleration off the line (instant torque), won't get the large touchscreen and autopilot and summon plus future updates.

I'm not alone, it looks like others are making the same choice when comparing:
http://cleantechnica.com/2016/01/15/1-large-luxury-car-in-us-tesla-model-s-2015-sales-comparison/
 
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