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Save the Memorial Park! Vote No on Measure B ballot June 5th
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Don?t you get it? It ain?t about homes values. It?s about Agran phony slogan Save The Vet bullshit that stooges like you standing tall and pound your chest don?t know shit about it. Dummies.
Larry Agran spearheaded everything with lies and fearmongering, and the gullible bought into his lies by the thousands, just as the gullible bought into Hillary's endless lies.
Lie #1: The sky will be full of airplanes.
(Well, no, that was contradicted by Agran Lie #2.)
Lie #2: We don't NEED El Toro International. John Wayne is just fine.
(This contradiction of Lie #1 was overlooked by Agran's gullible followers. It was also contradicted by the facts of far higher air fares from John Wayne due to only one runway, 5,200 feet long, with limited hours.)
Lie #3: It will be really really noisy.
(This was contradicted by results of the test flights, which we never heard at our home near I-5. We heard military aircraft all the time, as well as helicopters. They never affected home values.)
Lie #4: Home prices will go down.
(Manhattan Beach.)
It's pretty sad when you have to have election after election until you get the result you demanded so impetuously, so selfishly, but NIMBYs don't give a damn about anything or anybody but themselves.
So how's that "world class university" and "world class museum" .coming along, all "to be built with private funding"? Massive failure, built on lies and fearmongering. Sounds just like Hillary.
Lie #5: "Noise kills."
[When the *expert* stood up before an auditorium of hundreds, proclaiming one lie after another, I repeatedly challenged his lies. "Can anyone in this auditorium claim that they have read one obituary that said this person was killed by noise? Anyone?"
Nobody said a word.]
Lie #6: Diagram of aircraft, filling the sky, their wingspans three miles wide.
[I stood up again, asking if that diagram was in proportion - if commercial aircraft were really three miles wide. Again, silence. Many haters no doubt were present, and yet not ONE of them screamed out "Go f*** yourself." Such is their cowardice.]
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Burn That Belly said:
Don?t you get it? It ain?t about homes values. It?s about Agran phony slogan Save The Vet bullshit that stooges like you standing tall and pound your chest don?t know shit about it. Dummies.
If not for Larry Agran, there would be no Great Park, no Great Park Neighborhoods, and no 5P.
Just like most people assumed Hillary would become president, most people here in OC and the OC Board of Supervisors assumed MCAS El Toro would become Orange County Internatioal Airport. The FAA already allocated the code OCX to El Toro.
Larry Agran spearheaded the ultimate underdog campaign and defeated the airport paving the way for the Great Park and for Lennar's purchase of it. Lennar created 5P in order to hold its El Toro acquisition.
Lennar/5P has enjoyed massive profits from Larry Agran's work. As Starman would say, 5P is the ultimate ingrate to criticize Agran now over such a trival issue as the location of the Veterans cemetery.
Just like most people assumed Hillary would become president, most people here in OC and the OC Board of Supervisors assumed MCAS El Toro would become Orange County Internatioal Airport. The FAA already allocated the code OCX to El Toro.
Larry Agran spearheaded the ultimate underdog campaign and defeated the airport paving the way for the Great Park and for Lennar's purchase of it. Lennar created 5P in order to hold its El Toro acquisition.
Lennar/5P has enjoyed massive profits from Larry Agran's work. As Starman would say, 5P is the ultimate ingrate to criticize Agran now over such a trival issue as the location of the Veterans cemetery.
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Happiness said:
Larry Agran spearheaded everything with lies and fearmongering, and the gullible bought into his lies by the thousands, just as the gullible bought into Hillary's endless lies.
Lie #1: The sky will be full of airplanes.
(Well, no, that was contradicted by Agran Lie #2.)
Lie #2: We don't NEED El Toro International. John Wayne is just fine.
(This contradiction of Lie #1 was overlooked by Agran's gullible followers. It was also contradicted by the facts of far higher air fares from John Wayne due to only one runway, 5,200 feet long, with limited hours.)
Lie #3: It will be really really noisy.
(This was contradicted by results of the test flights, which we never heard at our home near I-5. We heard military aircraft all the time, as well as helicopters. They never affected home values.)
Lie #4: Home prices will go down.
(Manhattan Beach.)
It's pretty sad when you have to have election after election until you get the result you demanded so impetuously, so selfishly, but NIMBYs don't give a damn about anything or anybody but themselves.
So how's that "world class university" and "world class museum" .coming along, all "to be built with private funding"? Massive failure, built on lies and fearmongering. Sounds just like Hillary.
Lie #5: "Noise kills."
[When the *expert* stood up before an auditorium of hundreds, proclaiming one lie after another, I repeatedly challenged his lies. "Can anyone in this auditorium claim that they have read one obituary that said this person was killed by noise? Anyone?"
Nobody said a word.]
Lie #6: Diagram of aircraft, filling the sky, their wingspans three miles wide.
[I stood up again, asking if that diagram was in proportion - if commercial aircraft were really three miles wide. Again, silence. Many haters no doubt were present, and yet not ONE of them screamed out "Go f*** yourself." Such is their cowardice.]
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Not that this dead horse needs beating again, but the "noise tests" for the proposed El Toro International Airport were fixed. The pro-airport folk flew virtually empty planes under non-real world conditions which created less noise than if they were fully loaded and taking off every 5-10 minutes. When these planes flew over RSM, it became loud and clear why the ETIA needed to be strangled in it's crib. I'm proud to have been a part of burying this bad idea.
As for thecemetery Memorial Park - who cares if it's on the Base or off, just build the dang thing. As someone who does not live in the City, the new site near the freeway is preferred - similar to the one along the 405 in Santa Monica. I'd rather see it during my commute as a daily reminder of the ultimate sacrifice made by the armed services than to miss it completely if on the Base.
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