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You perpetuate a bold lie on national television and you get the hook…😂😂😂👍🏽🇺🇸

“The MAGA Gang [is] desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said

ABC to air Charlie Kirk remembrance special during Jimmy Kimmel's usual timeslot this week​


 
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For speaking the truth. But, as you know, MAGAs are allergic to truths, which is why they voted for a serial liar.

I’m not sure who needs to hear this but Jimmy Kimmel got on the air and falsely stated as a fact that Charlie Kirk’s killer was MAGA...This was *after* we knew from the UT gov that the killer had been indoctrinated into LEFT-wing ideology, *after* we’d seen the shooter’s bullet casings reflecting furry/trans memes, calling Charlie a fascist and w/anti-fascist lyrics. It was *after* we had learned the shooter was living with his trans-furry boyfriend and believed Charlie Kirk was “full of hate.” *After* we learned that the shooter was not registered GOP, but “unaffiliated.” *After* we saw him pull the trigger just as Charlie discussed trans killers. There was zero - ZERO - evidence the shooter was MAGA, had ever been MAGA, or was influenced by MAGA in any way.

Also, bet you didn't know that before ABC suspended Kimmel's show, both Nexstar and Sinclair, which control hundreds of stations nationwide, announced they will no longer air Kimmel's show effectively immediately. This is probably why ABC decided to pull the show.

But go ahead with your ignorant rants.
 
My prompt didn't ask for a list because that's not what you are all claiming.

It did say that most mass shooters don't have an ideology because those are often motivated by non-political issues.

This is what ChatGPT is saying for a more comprehensive list:

Confirmed / Charged Cases with Right-Wing Ideology​


DateDefendant / Victim(s)What the Charges / Convictions AreWhat Ideological Motive / Political Element Is
May 14, 2022 (but trial actions ongoing into recent years)Payton Gendron — Buffalo supermarket mass shooter (killed 10 Black people)He pleaded guilty to state charges (murder, domestic terrorism) and in federal court faces hate crimes & weapons charges. AP News+1The attack was explicitly white supremacist-motivated; targeting Black people at a predominantly Black supermarket. AP News+1
Sept 2024Dallas Erin Humber & Matthew Robert Allison (leaders of Terrorgram)Indicted on multiple counts including soliciting hate crimes, soliciting murder of federal officials, conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists. CBS News+2JURIST+2They’re part of a white supremacist accelerationist ideology; they maintained “hit lists”, encouraged violence, hate speech against minorities. CBS News+2JURIST+2
2025-07“Noah Lamb” (California)Indicted for conspiring with white supremacist online group (Terrorgram Collective) to kill federal officials among others. Crime Online+1Ideological: white supremacist group; targets selected due to race, official position etc. Crime Online+1
2024-01-12Payton Gendron again (Buffalo)Federal government moved to seek death penalty for hate crime murders. U.S. NewsExplicit hate motivation (animus toward Black persons). U.S. News
2025-05 / 2025-AugustSuspect in the 2025 Capital Jewish Museum Shooting (DC)Charged with first-degree murder, hate crime charges, firearms offenses, murder of a foreign official; possibly facing death penalty. WikipediaThe victims were staffers of the Israeli embassy; charges include hate crime and murder of foreign official. Wikipedia

So asked for the same for left wing|:

Short answer: There’s only one clearly documented U.S. case in the past ~2 years where a killing has been publicly reported with a left-wing (or explicitly “leftist”) political motive — the Charlie Kirk murder (Sept 10, 2025). Beyond that, left-wing–motivated murders in the U.S. are very rare; many politically motivated killings in recent years have been linked to far-right actors instead. CBS News+1

Confirmed / well-documented (last ~2 years)​

  1. Charlie Kirk — Sept 10, 2025
    • Victim: Charlie Kirk (conservative activist)
    • Accused: Tyler Robinson (22) — charged with aggravated murder; prosecutors say he targeted Kirk for his political views and described evidence (texts, Discord confession, engravings on casings) tying motive to left-leaning / anti-Kirk sentiment. CBS News+1

Cases with mixed / non-clear leftist motive (may be anti-corporate / grievance-driven rather than strictly “left-wing”)​

  • Brian Thompson (UnitedHealthcare CEO) — Dec 2024 — suspect allegedly expressed anger at the health-insurance industry and “corporate greed.” Authorities described this more as anti-corporate/anti-industry grievance; it’s not clearly classifiable as traditional left-wing political killing. New Lines Magazine+1

Important context & data​

  • Multiple analyses and datasets show far-right actors account for the vast majority of extremist-related murders in the U.S. in recent years; confirmed left-wing killings are rare. (See reporting/analyses summarizing political-violence data and trends.) The Guardian+1

Maybe Irvine Buyer needs to help build ChatGPTs knowledge base?
Interesting list that ChatGPT put together for you. It combines two shootings with two non-shootings. If we were to combine non-shootings then the attempted assassination of Justice Kavanaugh and the arson at Gov. Shapiro's home are two of probably many more events that could be added to this list. It is also missing several shootings within the same time period; two of which I have already addressed in an earlier post that without doubt are driven by extreme left-wing ideology (Covenant and Annunication).

The Jewish museum shooting is definitely not a result of right-wing ideology.

https://www.ajc.org/news/who-is-eli...-the-antisemitism-that-fueled-the-dc-shooting

Rodriguez later entered the museum, reportedly pretending to be fleeing the shooting. He then revealed a red keffiyeh and shouted “Free Free Palestine” as he was taken into custody. In a later statement to investigators, Rodriguez stated, “I did it for Palestine, I did it for Gaza,” federal officials said... In 2017, he protested against the police shooting of a Chicago teen with a branch of the left-wing Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL)

Sounds like Elias Rodriguez embraced left-wing ideology. If ChatGPT is wrong on the details, how can the summary be accurate?
 

I’m not sure who needs to hear this but Jimmy Kimmel got on the air and falsely stated as a fact that Charlie Kirk’s killer was MAGA...This was *after* we knew from the UT gov that the killer had been indoctrinated into LEFT-wing ideology, *after* we’d seen the shooter’s bullet casings reflecting furry/trans memes, calling Charlie a fascist and w/anti-fascist lyrics. It was *after* we had learned the shooter was living with his trans-furry boyfriend and believed Charlie Kirk was “full of hate.” *After* we learned that the shooter was not registered GOP, but “unaffiliated.” *After* we saw him pull the trigger just as Charlie discussed trans killers. There was zero - ZERO - evidence the shooter was MAGA, had ever been MAGA, or was influenced by MAGA in any way.

Also, bet you didn't know that before ABC suspended Kimmel's show, both Nexstar and Sinclair, which control hundreds of stations nationwide, announced they will no longer air Kimmel's show effectively immediately. This is probably why ABC decided to pull the show.

But go ahead with your ignorant rants.
In the recently released text between the killer and his furry friend, the killer explicitly complains that his dad is hardcore MAGA.

@CalBears96 - For somebody that has complained about misinformation so much in the past, you should be ashamed of yourself.
 
My prompt didn't ask for a list because that's not what you are all claiming.

It did say that most mass shooters don't have an ideology because those are often motivated by non-political issues.

This is what ChatGPT is saying for a more comprehensive list:

Confirmed / Charged Cases with Right-Wing Ideology​


DateDefendant / Victim(s)What the Charges / Convictions AreWhat Ideological Motive / Political Element Is
May 14, 2022 (but trial actions ongoing into recent years)Payton Gendron — Buffalo supermarket mass shooter (killed 10 Black people)He pleaded guilty to state charges (murder, domestic terrorism) and in federal court faces hate crimes & weapons charges. AP News+1The attack was explicitly white supremacist-motivated; targeting Black people at a predominantly Black supermarket. AP News+1
Sept 2024Dallas Erin Humber & Matthew Robert Allison (leaders of Terrorgram)Indicted on multiple counts including soliciting hate crimes, soliciting murder of federal officials, conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists. CBS News+2JURIST+2They’re part of a white supremacist accelerationist ideology; they maintained “hit lists”, encouraged violence, hate speech against minorities. CBS News+2JURIST+2
2025-07“Noah Lamb” (California)Indicted for conspiring with white supremacist online group (Terrorgram Collective) to kill federal officials among others. Crime Online+1Ideological: white supremacist group; targets selected due to race, official position etc. Crime Online+1
2024-01-12Payton Gendron again (Buffalo)Federal government moved to seek death penalty for hate crime murders. U.S. NewsExplicit hate motivation (animus toward Black persons). U.S. News
2025-05 / 2025-AugustSuspect in the 2025 Capital Jewish Museum Shooting (DC)Charged with first-degree murder, hate crime charges, firearms offenses, murder of a foreign official; possibly facing death penalty. WikipediaThe victims were staffers of the Israeli embassy; charges include hate crime and murder of foreign official. Wikipedia

So asked for the same for left wing|:

Short answer: There’s only one clearly documented U.S. case in the past ~2 years where a killing has been publicly reported with a left-wing (or explicitly “leftist”) political motive — the Charlie Kirk murder (Sept 10, 2025). Beyond that, left-wing–motivated murders in the U.S. are very rare; many politically motivated killings in recent years have been linked to far-right actors instead. CBS News+1

Confirmed / well-documented (last ~2 years)​

  1. Charlie Kirk — Sept 10, 2025
    • Victim: Charlie Kirk (conservative activist)
    • Accused: Tyler Robinson (22) — charged with aggravated murder; prosecutors say he targeted Kirk for his political views and described evidence (texts, Discord confession, engravings on casings) tying motive to left-leaning / anti-Kirk sentiment. CBS News+1

Cases with mixed / non-clear leftist motive (may be anti-corporate / grievance-driven rather than strictly “left-wing”)​

  • Brian Thompson (UnitedHealthcare CEO) — Dec 2024 — suspect allegedly expressed anger at the health-insurance industry and “corporate greed.” Authorities described this more as anti-corporate/anti-industry grievance; it’s not clearly classifiable as traditional left-wing political killing. New Lines Magazine+1

Important context & data​

  • Multiple analyses and datasets show far-right actors account for the vast majority of extremist-related murders in the U.S. in recent years; confirmed left-wing killings are rare. (See reporting/analyses summarizing political-violence data and trends.) The Guardian+1

Maybe Irvine Buyer needs to help build ChatGPTs knowledge base?

So you can't find any right wing assassination attempts in the past two years?

Gendron is listed twice, but his crime was in 2022 according to your results.
And as Irvine Buyer already pointed out, the Israeli staffers were murdered by a socialist left wing extremist. "Free Gaza" is not a right wing cause.
 
My prompt didn't ask for a list because that's not what you are all claiming.

It did say that most mass shooters don't have an ideology because those are often motivated by non-political issues.

This is what ChatGPT is saying for a more comprehensive list:

Confirmed / Charged Cases with Right-Wing Ideology​



Ooof.... @irvinehomeowner, my dood. Please step away from the A.I. prompting screen. As noted earlier, the data A.I. provided was hot garbage.

If anyone wants to get deep in the weeds on this, please consider Mother Jones's Mass Shootings Database (link below) Anyone who knows Mother Jones will tell you they are as "hard left" as they get. That said however, their data is juicy. They don't get into the "Left vs Right" debate, but many of these mass shooting events can easily be traced back to the "Why" reason. They are often based in political leanings like the Nashville Christian School shooting who killed children simply because "reasons" traced back to radical gender views - "Left Wing" ideas that are never found in the Right Wing... unless you think saying that there are only two genders is radical. As well the LGBTQ Club Shooting could be considered "Right Wing" as Anderson Aldrich was running a pro-Nazi website prior to his anti-gay shooting rampage. On the other hand, the Orange County Biker bar shooting is neither "Right Wing" or "Left Wing" because for those in Orange County who know about this shooting, it was a marital dispute gone very bad. (As a side note, if you go to the upper parking lot of Cooks Corner, the tree where John Snowling was put down still has many dozen bullet marks)

If just for personal curiosity, I again will highly recommend the Mother Jones data to see what's what in these crimes.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data/

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You perpetuate a bold lie on national television and you get the hook…😂😂😂👍🏽🇺🇸
Really? He's a comedian.

Politician lie all the time
“The MAGA Gang [is] desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said

Isn't that exactly what you all did on this forum when this happened? The irony is so hilarious.

In fact, morekaos is trying to perpetuate that the left is more violent than the right... who is canceling him?

Even qwerty, probably the most apolitical of everyone here, recognizes who is bullying who... you going to take his show away too?

And for all of you saying ChatGPT is suspect... it usually is when you get down to the details because of AI hallucinations, bad sourcing, etc. But generally, it's more correct than not and then it's up to you to determine how accurate the details are.

You guys are acting like I'm responding, I'm just asking it what you're telling me to ask it, don't blame if you don't like the answers.

@sgip: Not sure what point you are trying to prove. ChatGPT already said that mass-shootings are hard to nail down political leanings.
 
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Isn't that exactly what you all did on this forum when this happened? The irony is so hilarious.
Not really. We were speculating on his identity based on the clues as events unfolded. It turns out our initial hunch was mostly right, except instead of being trans himself he was boinking trans. His MAGA family made the excruciating decision to turn him in and they confirmed to the media that he took a sharp turn towards left wing ideology.

It's also interesting that you care more about Jimmy Kimmel's free speech rights than Charlie Kirk's. A suspension from work is hardly on the same level as being assassinated.
 

I’m not sure who needs to hear this but Jimmy Kimmel got on the air and falsely stated as a fact that Charlie Kirk’s killer was MAGA...This was *after* we knew from the UT gov that the killer had been indoctrinated into LEFT-wing ideology, *after* we’d seen the shooter’s bullet casings reflecting furry/trans memes, calling Charlie a fascist and w/anti-fascist lyrics. It was *after* we had learned the shooter was living with his trans-furry boyfriend and believed Charlie Kirk was “full of hate.” *After* we learned that the shooter was not registered GOP, but “unaffiliated.” *After* we saw him pull the trigger just as Charlie discussed trans killers. There was zero - ZERO - evidence the shooter was MAGA, had ever been MAGA, or was influenced by MAGA in any way.

Also, bet you didn't know that before ABC suspended Kimmel's show, both Nexstar and Sinclair, which control hundreds of stations nationwide, announced they will no longer air Kimmel's show effectively immediately. This is probably why ABC decided to pull the show.

But go ahead with your ignorant rants.
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

So Trump and republicans/MAGA can lie with no consequence, complain about cancel culture and proceed to cancel anyone who dishes out some of their own medicine. They would be more respectful if at least they were consistent with their views/approach.

But let’s just ignore the obvious.
 
Not really. We were speculating on his identity based on the clues as events unfolded. It turns out our initial hunch was mostly right, except instead of being trans himself he was boinking trans. His MAGA family made the excruciating decision to turn him in and they confirmed to the media that he took a sharp turn towards left wing ideology.

It's also interesting that you care more about Jimmy Kimmel's free speech rights than Charlie Kirk's. A suspension from work is hardly on the same level as being assassinated.
I'm quoting this for the doubling down of hypocrisy

You really dont get it
 
I'm quoting this for the doubling down of hypocrisy

You really dont get it
I don't remember you being this upset when Trump got de-platformed by FB and Twitter after January 6. Your commitment to free speech is situational, at best.

My commitment to free speech is unconditional. I would rather see Kimmel stay on the air and sink his own ship, much like Colbert.
 
Kimmel was going to get fired anyway…I said that long ago. ABC was just looking for an excuse. His show was a ratings disaster and he was losing money like Colbert…he simply provided the reason himself😂😂😂👍🏽🇺🇸
 
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

So Trump and republicans/MAGA can lie with no consequence, complain about cancel culture and proceed to cancel anyone who dishes out some of their own medicine. They would be more respectful if at least they were consistent with their views/approach.

But let’s just ignore the obvious.
Cancel culture started with people on the far left who would cancel others for wrong speak and wrong think. When folks on the right would bring up the first amendment, they were told that freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, the very same people are crying foul.

During the Biden Administration, so many people from politicians to people in entertainment (Kimmel included) lied with no consequence because their political affiliation or agenda aligned with the administration's. The administration put pressure on social media companies to censor conservative voices including Turning Point USA. Again, many of the same people now crying foul had no issue back then.
 
I don't remember you being this upset when Trump got de-platformed by FB and Twitter after January 6. Your commitment to free speech is situational, at best.

My commitment to free speech is unconditional. I would rather see Kimmel stay on the air and sink his own ship, much like Colbert.
Calm down... I'm not even upset. I find the hypocrisy hilarious and then the way you all jump on things to defend your orange way of life is spectacular.

"Wah wah... the democrats did it first!"

It's jokes, that's what late night TV does... and still looking for what was so bad that the FCC had to say something... SNL has done way worse.

Didn't morekaos make this big deal about "snowflakes"? Who's crying now?

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Really? He's a comedian.

Politician lie all the time

Isn't that exactly what you all did on this forum when this happened? The irony is so hilarious.

In fact, morekaos is trying to perpetuate that the left is more violent than the right... who is canceling him?

Even qwerty, probably the most apolitical of everyone here, recognizes who is bullying who... you going to take his show away too?

And for all of you saying ChatGPT is suspect... it usually is when you get down to the details because of AI hallucinations, bad sourcing, etc. But generally, it's more correct than not and then it's up to you to determine how accurate the details are.

You guys are acting like I'm responding, I'm just asking it what you're telling me to ask it, don't blame if you don't like the answers.

@sgip: Not sure what point you are trying to prove. ChatGPT already said that mass-shootings are hard to nail down political leanings.
@irvinehomeowner

My point was this: AI slop can't be trusted so don't form "tent pole opinions" on it. The your original post came from AI prompts that resulted in hot garbage. If time permits, even a small amount of quality research will show that A) leftist violence predominates our present environment of violence and B) not all mass shootings and or violence is political - race killings for example. I don't see that horrible stabbing on the train two weeks ago as political, but some on the Right say it was. I do see many other acts of violence fully documented as springing from leftist ideology. I can go through the last 5 years of shootings and definitively source it's political basis.... as can anyone reading this.

AI source shouldn't be trusted.
 
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

So Trump and republicans/MAGA can lie with no consequence, complain about cancel culture and proceed to cancel anyone who dishes out some of their own medicine. They would be more respectful if at least they were consistent with their views/approach.

But let’s just ignore the obvious.
It's ironic that MAGAs complain about cancel culture, but support the biggest snowflake in the history of mankind. Now the snowflake wants to strip networks critical of him of their broadcast licenses.
 
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