Oil

[morekaos]

Did some research and while there are tons of Cali taxes/fees, geography has a big part in high prices and spikes.

So I get the offshore drilling to help with supply but we will still need to increase refinery infrastructure which is expensive and Cali's car culture creates a demand that is much higher than other West Coast states.

Cut taxes and fees but how do we maintain roads because we have so many cars?

Switch to the national blend so we can use the other states supplies (but still transport issues)?

High home prices... high gas prices.

Even if Cali was a red state (since morekaos always like to blame Newsom), there is much more that lends to Cali gas prices than politics.

I know... more EV adoption.

Politics explains most of the root problem…If Cali was a red state then many of those problems you list would not exist…lower taxes more drilling and more refineries (Texas just opened the first one in decades). General fund robs the road tax bucket to fund ridiculous social program largesse. Pointless specialty blends would be non-existant and pipeline infrastructure would probably be robust…more EV’s hasnt even put a dent in total autos (we have the most and that has not been relivant) should've, would've, could’ve… but you have to start somewhere…now is as good a time as any.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

Again, biasing the facts with politics. Most of the gas taxes/fees go towards transportation (unless you can show me otherwise).

The pipeline infrastructure I already mentioned, the expense and geography makes that a very long term and expensive solution.

Statistically, EVs are making a difference but this is just the start:

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Gasoline consumption has declined​

Gasoline demand in California has flattened or slightly declined over the past decade, even as population grew.

That change comes from a combination of:

• EV adoption
• better fuel efficiency
• hybrid vehicles
• reduced driving in some years

So EVs are making a measurable dent, but it’s gradual.

California EVs are already estimated to displace over 1 billion gallons of gasoline per year, but the state still uses around 13–14 billion gallons annually, which is why the dent doesn’t look huge yet.

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So you like you said... you have to start somewhere.