Oil

[Ready2Downsize]

What I truly maddening is that as national prices have fallen, California prices have remained level…that means the tax has actually risen on the per gallon basis this year…Frogs in a slowly boiling pot…again, thanks Boy King!!

What is maddening is that California affects Nevada and my portion of Arizona (60% of our gas comes from California and the other 40% from the east). If there is any blip in California we feel it more because gas goes to California first (of course). Right now we are 26% higher than areas that get gas from the east, all because we get California gas.

California is closing refineries and they had that fire recently so probably why gas isn't dropping there. But who cares? Ya all drive EVs right?

Going to fill up my car today since I see the price of oil is rising. At least it's 80 cents a gallon less than I would pay in the OC. If I were in Tuscon, Flagstaff, Phoenix, California border areas, or anywhere east it would be 1.30-1.50 less than the OC.

Ya all are being gouged.

 

[morekaos]

Exactly, oil is doing its part…it is in that $60 sweet spot zone…it is the Morons in charge here who are at fault. Build more capacity not shut it down is the solution. We have been contracting out our UN-green production and stifling domestic production growth for too long….Build baby Build ..refineries….do it outside the cities if your a NIMBY but get it done and don’t listen to all those green new steel fools!!!

 

[OCtoSV]

Exactly, oil is doing its part…it is in that $60 sweet spot zone…it is the Morons in charge here who are at fault. Build more capacity not shut it down is the solution. We have been contracting out our UN-green production and stifling domestic production growth for too long….Build baby Build ..refineries….do it outside the cities if your a NIMBY but get it done and don’t listen to all those green new steel fools!!!

Oh, we’ll have $10 / gal gas here soon. All the energy development will be sucked up by datacenters and without a pipeline into the state the physics of transporting the oil and limited refining capacity make me glad I went EV a few years back.

 

[morekaos]

Oh, we’ll have $10 / gal gas here soon. All the energy development will be sucked up by datacenters and without a pipeline into the state the physics of transporting the oil and limited refining capacity make me glad I went EV a few years back.

Maybe true one day but it probably won’t be soley because oil and gas prices go up…it will be because of our foolosh states policy decisions, over regulation and taxation …totally self-inflicted with no discernible benefit…

Electricity Prices Going Up? Green Policy Is to Blame

Rates are much higher in states that have closed nuclear and fossil-fuel generation plants.

Electricity prices are rising, and Democrats are making it a campaign issue. They blame the price hike on President Trump and congressional Republicans, who ended Biden-era renewable-energy subsidies in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. But prices are actually soaring because of plant closures and natural-gas shortages in blue states, all in the name of green energy.

Energy Department data show that electricity prices in California, Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts and New York have risen more than 30% in the past five years compared with just 22.5% nationally. Because of climate policies, these states closed most of their coal-fired power plants and nuclear facilities over the past 15 years, making nonrenewable energy generation more difficult. In comparison, prices in Florida, Georgia, Missouri, Texas and other states hampered less by green energy initiatives are rising less than the U.S. average. These states continue to be more friendly to lower-cost hydrocarbon fuels for electricity generation.

California’s electricity prices are up 58% over the past five years and have more than doubled since 2008. The state closed all but one of its coal plants and all nuclear facilities except the Diablo Canyon plant. California now has the nation’s second-highest residential electricity prices at 31.9 cents a kilowatt-hour in 2024, almost double the national price of 16.5 cents. The state’s massive investment in renewable sources, which account for more than half of California’s in-state electricity generation in 2024, has driven the price jump.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/electricity-prices-going-up-green-policy-is-to-blame-4925a0da?st=eEEm9i

 

[OCtoSV]

Maybe true one day but it probably won’t be soley because oil and gas prices go up…it will be because of our foolosh states policy decisions, over regulation and taxation …totally self-inflicted with no discernible benefit…

Electricity Prices Going Up? Green Policy Is to Blame

Rates are much higher in states that have closed nuclear and fossil-fuel generation plants.

Electricity prices are rising, and Democrats are making it a campaign issue. They blame the price hike on President Trump and congressional Republicans, who ended Biden-era renewable-energy subsidies in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. But prices are actually soaring because of plant closures and natural-gas shortages in blue states, all in the name of green energy.

Energy Department data show that electricity prices in California, Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts and New York have risen more than 30% in the past five years compared with just 22.5% nationally. Because of climate policies, these states closed most of their coal-fired power plants and nuclear facilities over the past 15 years, making nonrenewable energy generation more difficult. In comparison, prices in Florida, Georgia, Missouri, Texas and other states hampered less by green energy initiatives are rising less than the U.S. average. These states continue to be more friendly to lower-cost hydrocarbon fuels for electricity generation.

California’s electricity prices are up 58% over the past five years and have more than doubled since 2008. The state closed all but one of its coal plants and all nuclear facilities except the Diablo Canyon plant. California now has the nation’s second-highest residential electricity prices at 31.9 cents a kilowatt-hour in 2024, almost double the national price of 16.5 cents. The state’s massive investment in renewable sources, which account for more than half of California’s in-state electricity generation in 2024, has driven the price jump.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/electricity-prices-going-up-green-policy-is-to-blame-4925a0da?st=eEEm9i

100%, but the physical limitations and burdensome regulation those policies have imposed on refineries are intractable in the near term - we are certainly on the road to $10/gal gas within the next 3-4 yrs. Bank
on it.