Yea, access to the Tesla Super chargers will probably push our next EV to Tesla if they don?t open their superchargers.
The 200 miles in 15 minutes is an ?up to? number, but even 100 miles in 15 minutes is great.
My spring break trip to Phoenix was the first time in the last few years that I did not see a line at the Flying J superchargers. Quartzite has a newer 36 station set up at Carl?s. Still 230 miles Irvine to Quartzite. I?m hoping the non-Tesla supercharging pilot goes well in Europe.
As for the 99.9%, it?s a ?trips? number. Maybe as low as 99%. It?s a once, sometimes twice a month need the long range to maybe once every three months. Sometimes planned for a while, sometimes planned this week. Often on a weekend, sometimes 4-5 days or a week or two.
To school for our son, an errand, maybe lunch, back to school for pick up, off to karate, off to another appointment, all those trips = 99%. It?s a somedays 3 trips, others 6-8.
The let?s go to Paso this weekend, Morro Bay, Phoenix spring break, Mammoth, Tahoe, eastern Sierra?s, Flagstaff, that?s the 0.1-1% but 10% of miles (maybe more like 20%)
A weekend rental depending on the car is $300-$500. Cheaper than a car payment, but if I need a second car anyway, that?s sunk.
Kenkoko said:
nosuchreality said:
I have an EV I adore for the convenience, economy, etc. purchase price stunk, but that is steadily getting better.
It fulfills 99.9% of our families driving trips. It also fulfills about 90% of our annual miles.
That?s the rub. If forced to go to one vehicle, those 10% of miles and 0.1% of trips, financially wreck the cost proposition of the EV for us.
To go solo EV, I?d need a rated 500 mile range EV. With real world driving would probably give me the the real 400 range I need without lengthy stops to refuel.
Or I need reliable holiday peak travel stops to recharge in 20 minutes to add 200+ miles of range. Without traffic, 200 miles is 3 hours of driving. Usually a quick bio break, but no need for lengthy stops.
Alternatively, I need reliable, expedient and cost proportional access to a gas road trip vehicle. Last time I checked, all three of those are coming up short.
My model X can go about 350 miles, so it's getting pretty close to your need. But it does charge at a slower rate so might not work for you.
I've heard from friends that Tesla supercharging stations can charge 800 - 1000 miles/hour on model 3 or model Y.
Why not just rent a car for your 0.1% of need? You can get unlimited miles rentals from costco travel
Or if you're not going far, third party car share app like turo is pretty inexpensive.
