Official (?) Harbaugh to Michigan

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Yahoo is reporting, it's done and will be announced at BBall game:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/michig...ome-next-head-coach-020735423-ncaaf.html?pt=2


Will they regret getting what they wanted . . .  at $8M/yr?

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The problem with college coaching is there are so many people to answer to -- immature players, parents, boosters, college officials and then you have to recruit every year and may only have an excellent player for one year.

Seems like a step down to me but he has ties to Michigan so maybe he just wants to Lebron it.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
qwerty said:
$8M year is not a step down :-)
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If it was just about the money, I wouldn't be living in Irvine. :)
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I'm with IHO. Rather take a pro job. Preferably one with stable ownership like Giants, steelers, etc. Is michigan even a hot bed for HS football?  Seems like recruiting isn't a no brainer there.
 
We all know Ohio St. will crush them next year. It will take time to build the program. (Recruiting class)
 
bones said:
irvinehomeowner said:
qwerty said:
$8M year is not a step down :-)
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If it was just about the money, I wouldn't be living in Irvine. :)
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I'm with IHO. Rather take a pro job. Preferably one with stable ownership like Giants, steelers, etc. Is michigan even a hot bed for HS football?  Seems like recruiting isn't a no brainer there.
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every coaching job is only a matter of time before you get fired. why not collect $8M year to be the man in charge, he will call all the shots. In the pros very few coaches have that luxury.  He will turn the program around and in 4-5 years he will say "my job is done here" and go take a job in the pros.  At the pro level its all about the quarterback, much less so in college. there are no good NFL jobs open this year, the one opening with the best quarterback is probably atlanta. I think there is less pressure to win in college than in the NFL, definitely less crazy hours. If he has a shitty season next year the built in excuse is there (it was Hoke's players, etc). Also, how is it better to earn $5M vs $8M? what is so much better about the pros to pass up that much money?
 
qwerty said:
bones said:
irvinehomeowner said:
qwerty said:
$8M year is not a step down :-)
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If it was just about the money, I wouldn't be living in Irvine. :)
Click to expand...

I'm with IHO. Rather take a pro job. Preferably one with stable ownership like Giants, steelers, etc. Is michigan even a hot bed for HS football?  Seems like recruiting isn't a no brainer there.
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every coaching job is only a matter of time before you get fired. why not collect $8M year to be the man in charge, he will call all the shots. In the pros very few coaches have that luxury.  He will turn the program around and in 4-5 years he will say "my job is done here" and go take a job in the pros.  At the pro level its all about the quarterback, much less so in college. there are no good NFL jobs open this year, the one opening with the best quarterback is probably atlanta. I think there is less pressure to win in college than in the NFL, definitely less crazy hours. If he has a shitty season next year the built in excuse is there (it was Hoke's players, etc). Also, how is it better to earn $5M vs $8M? what is so much better about the pros to pass up that much money?
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True, but i dont think it will take that long to turn things around.

I also think his schtick plays better in college-- the athletes aren't around as long, so his antics wont wear them down and he wont have a manager to clash with.

I just wonder if MI will ultimately regret selling its soul to get the all-mighty W.
 
qwerty said:
bones said:
irvinehomeowner said:
qwerty said:
$8M year is not a step down :-)
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If it was just about the money, I wouldn't be living in Irvine. :)
Click to expand...

I'm with IHO. Rather take a pro job. Preferably one with stable ownership like Giants, steelers, etc. Is michigan even a hot bed for HS football?  Seems like recruiting isn't a no brainer there.
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every coaching job is only a matter of time before you get fired. why not collect $8M year to be the man in charge, he will call all the shots. In the pros very few coaches have that luxury.  He will turn the program around and in 4-5 years he will say "my job is done here" and go take a job in the pros.  At the pro level its all about the quarterback, much less so in college. there are no good NFL jobs open this year, the one opening with the best quarterback is probably atlanta. I think there is less pressure to win in college than in the NFL, definitely less crazy hours. If he has a shitty season next year the built in excuse is there (it was Hoke's players, etc). Also, how is it better to earn $5M vs $8M? what is so much better about the pros to pass up that much money?
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Don't get me wrong. I know it's a total money play here. And I never fault a guy for getting his. I'm just saying that if I had my pick of jobs, I wouldn't pick college.  To address some of your points, I'm not sure college is less crazy hours. Recruiting is 24/7. Even after u get a recruit - u still have to recruit bc they can decommit. Then U have to smooze with the boosters who are paying you and the massive alumni base.  Then there's the 24/7 babysitting of your college roster. And all the fires you have to put out on a day in  day out basis (academics, dumb antics, etc, etc). There are plenty of coaches with (decently) long tenures in the NFL. 
 
College is less hours. 20 hour practice limit so you have more time to review tape. Recruiting is also limited it's not year round. The babysitting is taken care of by the compliance staff and assistant coaches. My friend in college was the head student football manager our junior and senior year so I got to see the inner workings of the usc program.
 
qwerty said:
College is less hours. 20 hour practice limit so you have more time to review tape. Recruiting is also limited it's not year round. The babysitting is taken care of by the compliance staff and assistant coaches. My friend in college was the head student football manager our junior and senior year so I got to see the inner workings of the usc program.
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I don't have first hand info like you do but your info was also what 20 years ago?  That's way before social media and football also has way bigger $ stakes.  Everyone can agree the amount of scrutiny on coaches and athletes is more intense than ever before. Can you imagine if mj played in 2014?

Btw. Here's a link to a 2014 article. http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...9/nfl-college-coaches-jim-harbaugh-chip-kelly

Lots of bullets on recruiting and how much it sucks. But the one that stuck out to me is thousands and thousands of people can get you fired at a college job. An NFL job: just a handful.
 
Isn't $8mil/year more than what Saban gets?  Now, that's good for his ego.  I hope their boosters will pick up the tab or there's going to be an emergency tuition hike there.  :P

Remember, this guy turned around an awful Stanford football team, where they have very high enrollment standards.  He's been a winner every he went so far.  The question is how long will he remain at Michigan if he is successful?  I'm thinking 5 years max but his salary will make it hard for another college programs to hire him, unless he takes a pay cut, which he won't do most likely.  "7 win Jim" isn't going to do there.  :P
 
bones said:
qwerty said:
College is less hours. 20 hour practice limit so you have more time to review tape. Recruiting is also limited it's not year round. The babysitting is taken care of by the compliance staff and assistant coaches. My friend in college was the head student football manager our junior and senior year so I got to see the inner workings of the usc program.
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I don't have first hand info like you do but your info was also what 20 years ago?  That's way before social media and football also has way bigger $ stakes.  Everyone can agree the amount of scrutiny on coaches and athletes is more intense than ever before. Can you imagine if mj played in 2014?

Btw. Here's a link to a 2014 article. http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...9/nfl-college-coaches-jim-harbaugh-chip-kelly

Lots of bullets on recruiting and how much it sucks. But the one that stuck out to me is thousands and thousands of people can get you fired at a college job. An NFL job: just a handful.
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hey im not that old, my data is 15 years old :-)

and SC has always been a big money/big time program, now its just bigger money :-)
 
Worst kept secret but now official.

Seven year $35 mil plus incentives.  Not going to be the highest paid which is how it should be. 

In this case, I'm not sure why he didn't wait around to see what the NFL teams would offer him?
 
irvinehusky said:
Worst kept secret but now official.

Seven year $35 mil plus incentives.  Not going to be the highest paid which is how it should be. 

In this case, I'm not sure why he didn't wait around to see what the NFL teams would offer him?
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Yea I'm head scratching but there are other "incentives" at the college level that isn't in a contract like getting your mortgage paid off by boosters ala Nick Saban.
 
Those guys eat, sleep, and die for the gig.
Pretty well documented that their stress level has negative impact on nearly every aspect of their lives outside of football. I think it's also why you see former NFL coaches move to be lower-paid "analysts" on TV (Madden, Chucky, Ditka, Green, Dungy, etc.) but almost none go back, even though they're well-qualified. I can't think of any off-hand that have gone back...

University jobs are rigorous as well, but even at the top football schools, not nearly as much.
 
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