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irvinehomeowner said:
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Why is it the players responsibility to take less money?  If the owners cared about winning then they should remove the salary cap. It appears the owners, most of whom are billionaires and have other businesses outside of the nba, care more about making money. Sterling just got $2B, Phil Jackson makes $12m/year. Why don't the owners and management take less, remove the cap and try to win. Let the market set the payrolls.
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The CBA is what the players and the owners agree upon... it's not just the owners who set the cap. The cap was done to prevent large market teams from hording all the high salary players from small market teams like in baseball.

And I'm not saying all players should do that, but certain players who are interested in attracting free agents should recognize the limitations of the salary cap and adjust accordingly, especially if you have outside income that exceeds what the team pays you anyways. I understand the idea of getting all you can from your employer, but if I were making money outside my employer, I wouldn't put my fellow employees or my employer in a tougher position by demanding a higher salary.
Would you take less money at your job now so your coworker can make more?  Or for management  to make more money? Doubt it.
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Actually... yes. But maybe that's why I'm still a 99%er. Every year we've had bonuses, upper management tells me what goes to who... and every year I've reduced mine to give more to other employees.
The players have 8-12 years if park earnings years. They need to maximize those earnings not concern themselves with what fans think about them crippling salary caps. Go complain to the owners to loosen the purse strings.
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Again... this only applies to certain players. It doesn't matter to me how many cabinet upgrades Kobe has to pay for, he needs to understand that it's more than just him getting paid, he's been paid, higher than most other players in the NBA, but the team is also his value and with the Lakers being as bad as they are, it reflects on him and his brand. If the Lakers were winning, playoff bound and a trophy contender, that would make his endorsements even higher.

But this is why most other players don't like Kobe and everyone respects Duncan and Dirk. Basketball is still a "team" sport, so it's nice to see other players putting team ahead of money.
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well the CBA is what they "agreed" on but lets not get it twisted, the owners forced it upon them, the players are too stupid to be fiscally responsible and unfortunately cant go too long without those fat paychecks.  i think we will just agree to disagree.  Baseball does just fine with no hard salary caps and no one complains about Pujols/Rodriguez/Kershaw/insert name here, crippling the team.

sometimes i wonder if race plays into it, probably does. on sports radio the nba players always get criticized for not taking less so their team can win, but you never hear that a baseball player should take less, that peyton manning/brady/brees/rogers/insert white quarteback name here, etc.

this is entertainment for us, but its the players jobs and money they will need to live the remaining 35-50 years, most of them wont even come close to make that kind of money again. like i said before and ill say it again. its very easy to tell others what to do with their money. 

cowherd made good point the other day too. carmelo anthony got criticized for taking the money and staying in new york vs taking 50-60M less and going to the bulls for the better basketball situation.  historically, if carmelo gave up the 50-60M now and won a championship with the bulls (and odds are he would not anyway), that doesnt really imact how anthony would get viewed historically. title or not, he will be viewed as a really good player, 10-20 years from now his top 50, top 100 ranking wouldnt change because he won (or didnt win) a championship, yet 10-20 years from now he will be out $50-$60M and for what? so bulls fan could enjoy one season more where they won a title? fuck that.
 
WTTCMN said:
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WTTCMN said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Hearing about how Duncan and Dirk are taking smaller contracts just irritates me about Kobe.

One of the reasons why LBJ doesn't take max money is because he knows that he makes much more outside the NBA. And so does Kobe... so why does Kobe think he should get paid so much and make it hard on the team's payroll? He makes probably more than most other NBA players (or even other sports) with outside endorsements so why not give the Lakers a break in their salary cap to recruit more talent?
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But why should the onerous be on the players to "take less"? The owners are raking it in.  Plus sterling just for two billion for the clippers. And a new tv deal is coming up. The owners should step it up and stop raping the players union.  The players only have a limited window to make money so in this fight of millionaires versus billionaires, imma side with the underdogs. Plus Kobe has like 10 houses. 3 in one neighborhood alone. How much do you think it costs to upgrade his cabinets and flooring?
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I think you meant "onus." 
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Thanks mike Vick
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No problem, Glass House.
 
I don't even think the Lakers know what they are doing? You know that saying we take it day by day - that's the Lakers. The Spurs plan ahead.
 
eyephone said:
I don't even think the Lakers know what they are doing? You know that saying we take it day by day - that's the Lakers. The Spurs plan ahead.
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Actually I think they know what they were doing.  They got Chris Paul and their contracts were in place.  Then the NBA f'd it up.. now what?  Well, we are still suffering from that.  Can't expect much now.. won 5 ships in the last 15 years.. not bad.. Time  to reset for a few years and draft some young talent. 
 
On the CP3 thing... Lakers would not have been in a better place.

Remember they would have also lost Pau in that deal... so just Kobe and CP3... no bigs. And... just like Dwight, CP3 may have decided to opt out (especially if he didn't get along with Kobe... there can be only one alpha).
 
irvinehomeowner said:
On the CP3 thing... Lakers would not have been in a better place.

Remember they would have also lost Pau in that deal... so just Kobe and CP3... no bigs. And... just like Dwight, CP3 may have decided to opt out (especially if he didn't get along with Kobe... there can be only one alpha).
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Possibly.. but essentially you got rid of some heavy contracts.. still had Bynum as trade bait.  Maybe D12 doesn't leave since Cp3 was here.  Still.. it was a great trade for the lakers.. that's why Cuban and others got so angry. 
 
jmoney74 said:
irvinehomeowner said:
On the CP3 thing... Lakers would not have been in a better place.

Remember they would have also lost Pau in that deal... so just Kobe and CP3... no bigs. And... just like Dwight, CP3 may have decided to opt out (especially if he didn't get along with Kobe... there can be only one alpha).
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Possibly.. but essentially you got rid of some heavy contracts.. still had Bynum as trade bait.  Maybe D12 doesn't leave since Cp3 was here.  Still.. it was a great trade for the lakers.. that's why Cuban and others got so angry.
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You also forgot Dan Gilbert. He wrote a letter to David Stern.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-nba_dan_gilbert_email_lakers_hornets_trade_120811
 
You really think Kobe, CP3 and D12 would fit under the cap?

And chemistry-wise, CP3 and D12 can co-exist, but not if you throw Kobe in with either of them.

Kobe just didn't kill it for the Lakers with his contract... you have to be nice to your teammates too.
 
Lakers just signed Ed Davis 2 year for $2mil. Second year is player option.

Lakers = bargain hunter which doesn't equate to a championship
 
irvinehomeowner said:
You really think Kobe, CP3 and D12 would fit under the cap?

And chemistry-wise, CP3 and D12 can co-exist, but not if you throw Kobe in with either of them.

Kobe just didn't kill it for the Lakers with his contract... you have to be nice to your teammates too.
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Yes.. it would work but would obviously require some tinkering on the Kobe contract.  Either way, that trade messed up any short term goals we had. 
 
hell ya, Boozer!
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