Is there a Global Crisis on its way?

Kenkoko

New member
Liar Loan said:
Where were all these anti-war voices when the US invaded Iraq?  1,000,000 Iraqi's died and nobody cares.

Saying nobody cares isn't very accurate. It was always a polarizing issue with huge partisan divide.

Maybe at the start of the war, you could stretch a bit and claim that nobody cared.

In 2003, 89% Republicans and 53% Democrats said using military force was the right decision.

But it quickly became very unpopular among Dems. Less than a year in, the Dem support already dropped to 30s. The R support remained high, even in 2018, 61%% of Republicans still believed it was the right choice.(vs 27% Dem support)
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...to-divide-u-s-public-15-years-after-it-began/
 

irvinehomeowner

Well-known member
Liar Loan said:
Where were all these anti-war voices when the US invaded Iraq?  1,000,000 Iraqi's died and nobody cares.

Were you against it after what happened? Or did you forget already?

So does that mean you support the Putin invasion of Ukraine?
 

Liar Loan

Well-known member
irvinehomeowner said:
Liar Loan said:
Where were all these anti-war voices when the US invaded Iraq?  1,000,000 Iraqi's died and nobody cares.

Were you against it after what happened? Or did you forget already?

So does that mean you support the Putin invasion of Ukraine?

I'm sorry, what are you asking?
 

irvinehomeowner

Well-known member
Liar Loan said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Liar Loan said:
Where were all these anti-war voices when the US invaded Iraq?  1,000,000 Iraqi's died and nobody cares.

Were you against it after what happened? Or did you forget already?

So does that mean you support the Putin invasion of Ukraine?

I'm sorry, what are you asking?


Reading comprehension issues like morekaos?

Question is in plain English.
 

akula1488

Active member
What's your infatuation on taking sides? The world is not black and white.

irvinehomeowner said:
Liar Loan said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Liar Loan said:
Where were all these anti-war voices when the US invaded Iraq?  1,000,000 Iraqi's died and nobody cares.

Were you against it after what happened? Or did you forget already?

So does that mean you support the Putin invasion of Ukraine?

I'm sorry, what are you asking?


Reading comprehension issues like morekaos?

Question is in plain English.
 

Liar Loan

Well-known member
irvinehomeowner said:
Liar Loan said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Liar Loan said:
Where were all these anti-war voices when the US invaded Iraq?  1,000,000 Iraqi's died and nobody cares.

Were you against it after what happened? Or did you forget already?

So does that mean you support the Putin invasion of Ukraine?

I'm sorry, what are you asking?


Reading comprehension issues like morekaos?

Question is in plain English.

IHO - This is beneath you, more on par with what I expect from eyephone.  I'm sure the dying & dead in Ukraine and Iraq could care less about our pissing matches.
 

irvinehomeowner

Well-known member
Liar Loan said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Liar Loan said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Liar Loan said:
Where were all these anti-war voices when the US invaded Iraq?  1,000,000 Iraqi's died and nobody cares.

Were you against it after what happened? Or did you forget already?

So does that mean you support the Putin invasion of Ukraine?

I'm sorry, what are you asking?


Reading comprehension issues like morekaos?

Question is in plain English.

IHO - This is beneath you, more on par with what I expect from eyephone.  I'm sure the dying & dead in Ukraine and Iraq could care less about our pissing matches.

Then stop posing and answer the question. Back your accusations up.
 

akula1488

Active member
@ihohttps://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...mself-from-putin-9h6hfxxrm#Echobox=1647433871

You can see the parallel/similarity as vaccine mandate...it is still about forcing a mainstream narrative and then control and obedience.

Vaccine mandate for healthy young people never makes sense, now we are forcing ordinary citizens to disavow Putin to make a living?

I am on Ukraine's side 100% but the media has gone overboard with a lot of misinformation (for COVID the media misinformation is how effective and safe the vaccines were and for this war is how innocent Ukrainians are and how evil Russia/Putin is).
 

Liar Loan

Well-known member
irvinehomeowner said:
Liar Loan said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Liar Loan said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Liar Loan said:
Where were all these anti-war voices when the US invaded Iraq?  1,000,000 Iraqi's died and nobody cares.

Were you against it after what happened? Or did you forget already?

So does that mean you support the Putin invasion of Ukraine?

I'm sorry, what are you asking?


Reading comprehension issues like morekaos?

Question is in plain English.

IHO - This is beneath you, more on par with what I expect from eyephone.  I'm sure the dying & dead in Ukraine and Iraq could care less about our pissing matches.

Then stop posing and answer the question. Back your accusations up.

I was against the Iraq war from the very beginning.  Some of my historical posts on TI validate this fact.  Feel free to search them if you have the time.
 

irvinehomeowner

Well-known member
Liar Loan said:
I was against the Iraq war from the very beginning.  Some of my historical posts on TI validate this fact.  Feel free to search them if you have the time.

Hard to validate this since the Iraq War started in 2003... well before the IHB.

It's always easy enough to say you were against in when there is no evidence to prove it. And since you have a pattern of revisionist history, we'll just have to leave it at that.

I think there are differences between the US/Iraq War and what Putin is doing now so you can't use such a broad stroke to compare the two.

So does this mean you are against the Putin invasion?
 

Liar Loan

Well-known member
irvinehomeowner said:
Liar Loan said:
I was against the Iraq war from the very beginning.  Some of my historical posts on TI validate this fact.  Feel free to search them if you have the time.

Hard to validate this since the Iraq War started in 2003... well before the IHB.

It's always easy enough to say you were against in when there is no evidence to prove it. And since you have a pattern of revisionist history, we'll just have to leave it at that.

I think there are differences between the US/Iraq War and what Putin is doing now so you can't use such a broad stroke to compare the two.

So does this mean you are against the Putin invasion?

The truth is you were duped into supporting the Iraq war.  You now realize how dumb it was and you are attempting to deflect.  Why should we trust your judgement on Putin or anything else if you were duped on Iraq?  This applies not only to you, but John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, John McCain, Mitt Romney, and all the other establishment tools.
 

irvinehomeowner

Well-known member
Liar Loan said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Liar Loan said:
I was against the Iraq war from the very beginning.  Some of my historical posts on TI validate this fact.  Feel free to search them if you have the time.

Hard to validate this since the Iraq War started in 2003... well before the IHB.

It's always easy enough to say you were against in when there is no evidence to prove it. And since you have a pattern of revisionist history, we'll just have to leave it at that.

I think there are differences between the US/Iraq War and what Putin is doing now so you can't use such a broad stroke to compare the two.

So does this mean you are against the Putin invasion?

The truth is you were duped into supporting the Iraq war.  You now realize how dumb it was and you are attempting to deflect.  Why should we trust your judgement on Putin or anything else if you were duped on Iraq?  This applies not only to you, but John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, John McCain, Mitt Romney, and all the other establishment tools.

Still haven't answered the question.

As much you want to muddy this with whatever political ideology you subscribe to, you should know by now that politics is not a motivator for me.

I'm not asking anyone to trust my judgement although it seems validation is very important to **you**, I'm just expressing my opinion on what I think is unnecessary course of action by a world leader on people who do not deserve this. Could this have applied to the US for past actions, sure but isn't that the point? We know better now.

So again, do you support Putin's invasion?

And for anyone interested in providing humanitarian aid to Ukraine, you can donate directly to the Ukraine bank:
https://bank.gov.ua/en/about/humanitarian-aid-to-ukraine

There is also a link to donate to their military but my preference is to help the civilians who are affected by all this.
 

Liar Loan

Well-known member
Well liquidity just got even worse...

Evergrande Investors Left Baffled by $2.1 Billion in Seized Cash

Investors in China Evergrande Group are still in the dark over just how $2.1 billion of deposits at its property-services unit came to be used as security for pledge guarantees and seized by banks.

In a call with investors late Tuesday, the developer?s officials reiterated comments from earlier filings that they were investigating the matter without sharing fresh details, according to people who attended and asked not to be identified. The third-party pledge guarantee wipes out most of Evergrande Property Services Group Ltd.?s cash holdings.

?It?s peculiar because investors expect Evergrande management should be aware of where the cash went rather than instead setting up an investigation committee to find out,? said Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Andrew Chan.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/evergrande-investors-left-baffled-2-040419913.html
 

morekaos

Well-known member
morekaos said:
The question of this thread is a discussion of whether a global crisis is coming and what events today may cause it?.not how to protect your portfolio during a sell off. If you want to discuss that, start a thread. This one is currently exploring the possibility that an asset bubble in China may be the focus of that possibility.  Most recessions begin with an asset bubble popping.

Keep your eye on the ball...China is collapsing...

Wall Street takes a battering as fears over China's economy mount: S&P 500 plummets to lowest close in over a year while Dow Jones plunges 600 points as markets tumble worldwide
China's continued Covid lockdown policy continues to snarl supply chains
The rise of interest rates has played havoc on the markets
The S&P 500 lost 3.2 percent and the Nasdaq dropped 4.3 percent
Dow Jones ticked down 2 percentage points
Everything from crude oil to bitcoin took a beating on the market on Monday
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...kes-battering-fears-Chinas-economy-mount.html
 

morekaos

Well-known member
Uhhhhh….yah….

Protests against Covid controls erupt across China


  • Rare protests broke out across China over the weekend as groups of people vented their frustration over the zero-Covid policy.
  • The unrest came as infections surged, prompting more local Covid controls, while a central government policy change earlier this month had raised hopes of a gradual easing.
  • It was not immediately clear whether the protests reached a meaningful scale in a country of 1.4 billion people, or whether a wide demographic participated.
 

Liar Loan

Well-known member
So does this mean you are against the Putin invasion?

This article has some excellent analysis on the true military situation in Ukraine. I encourage you to read the entire article, but here is a snippet:

Wasted tanks, wasted time in Ukraine​

After almost a year of pleading with their North Atlantic Treaty Organization allies for advanced main battle tanks (MBTs), the alliance is finally giving in to the Ukrainians.

This comes as the Russian invasion, which had ground to a halt after the unsuccessful attempt to capture Kiev, ended in the retreat of Russian forces back to Russian-held territories in eastern Ukraine and the Crimean Peninsula.


After the Russians had retreated, rather than use their victory in the Battle of Kiev as leverage to get a negotiated settlement from Moscow, the Ukrainians took their forces on the offensive.

Once the war shifted from a defensive war into an offensive one in territory that the Russians had held at least since 2014, things changed for the Ukrainians.

Because of Kiev’s inability to see this, coupled with the fantastical (almost childlike) notions of its NATO backers, Ukraine is about to be crushed over the next six months by the onslaught of a totally mobilized Russia.

 

zubs

Well-known member
I thought we were arming Ukraine to make Russia weaker.

Russia loses money, equipment and people.
US only loses money and equipment.
 
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