ICE or EV?
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The ID.4 will go on hiatus in 2027 but will probably come back as the ID.Tiguan in 2028. VW moving away from their numerical model names (these automakers can't make up their mind).
We could see 2027 Buzzes as early as August.
I'm hoping the Kia PVx minivan or even the Mercedes EV minivan make it to the US.
Or maybe Toyota will surprise everyone with a Sienna EV.
irvinehomeowner
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So you're gonna buy an EV?
Pro Tip: They don't cost $100k.
Pro Tip: They don't cost $100k.
morekaos
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No, I’ll stick to Broncos that continually appreciate in value, are beautiful and fun to drive….and these Cadillacs…both ICE and EV cost over $100k
irvinehomeowner
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So you ARE anti-EV. That was the point. Please read.
PS: There are Cadillac EVs that cost less than $100k... do proper research... maybe use AI before you post?
PS: There are Cadillac EVs that cost less than $100k... do proper research... maybe use AI before you post?
irvinehomeowner
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Can you even follow a conversation you start?
You asked why Cadillac is still selling ICE and I said it's because there are still people who won't buy EVs... like yourself... and now you are babbling about "pro free choice" and still pushing your EVs cost more than $100k misinformation.
I guess the actual point is here is you don't know very much about EVs.
You asked why Cadillac is still selling ICE and I said it's because there are still people who won't buy EVs... like yourself... and now you are babbling about "pro free choice" and still pushing your EVs cost more than $100k misinformation.
I guess the actual point is here is you don't know very much about EVs.
irvinehomeowner
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If you don't choose EVs for yourself, then YOU are anti-EV (that's the definition).
You've never admitted once the pros of EVs (hence the "anti" sentiment). You don't acknowledge the better technology, convenience or less maintenance. You always say they are expensive and for the 1% (which is ironic for a boat owner).
So for people like you (who you don't think are anti-EV), Cadillac will continue to make ICE cars.
Snowflake!!!
You've never admitted once the pros of EVs (hence the "anti" sentiment). You don't acknowledge the better technology, convenience or less maintenance. You always say they are expensive and for the 1% (which is ironic for a boat owner).
So for people like you (who you don't think are anti-EV), Cadillac will continue to make ICE cars.
Snowflake!!!
irvinehomeowner
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Awww…. snowflake more.
morekaos
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Yes you are
irvinehomeowner
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As the article hinted, it could be back for 2027... and looks like it is:I had high hopes for this to catch on, but alas, another failure looms:
VW Calls Off 2026 ID Buzz in US—but There's Hope for 2027 [Updated]
Those pesky "market conditions" might kill off the nostalgic EV we all waited years for.www.thedrive.com
Volkswagen brings the ID. Buzz back for 2027, but now the ID.4 is on a brief hiatus
The ID. Buzz is coming back for the 2027 model year. While the electric van is set to return, Volkswagen...
electrek.co
The ID.4 will go on hiatus in 2027 but will probably come back as the ID.Tiguan in 2028. VW moving away from their numerical model names (these automakers can't make up their mind).
We could see 2027 Buzzes as early as August.
I'm hoping the Kia PVx minivan or even the Mercedes EV minivan make it to the US.
Or maybe Toyota will surprise everyone with a Sienna EV.
morekaos
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Another bug hunt in search of the illusive Unicorn and rainbow ends tragically….
Honda posts first annual loss on $9 billion EV writedown, scraps EV sales goals
Toshihiro Mibe, CEO of Japan's second-largest automaker, on Thursday said Honda is scrapping its goal of having EVs make up a fifth of its new car sales in 2030 as well as a target of a full shift to electric or fuel-cell vehicle sales by 2040.
Mibe said Honda will also indefinitely suspend its Canada EV project, an $11 billion investment plan to produce EVs and batteries in what would have been the Japanese firm's largest ever investment in the country.
Honda booked total EV-related losses of 1.45 trillion yen for the business year ended March and expects to face additional costs of 500 billion yen for the year just started. That compares with EV writedown costs of up to 2.5 trillion yen that Honda estimated in March.
https://www.reuters.com/business/au...nnual-loss-hit-by-hefty-ev-charge-2026-05-14/
Honda posts first annual loss on $9 billion EV writedown, scraps EV sales goals
Toshihiro Mibe, CEO of Japan's second-largest automaker, on Thursday said Honda is scrapping its goal of having EVs make up a fifth of its new car sales in 2030 as well as a target of a full shift to electric or fuel-cell vehicle sales by 2040.
Mibe said Honda will also indefinitely suspend its Canada EV project, an $11 billion investment plan to produce EVs and batteries in what would have been the Japanese firm's largest ever investment in the country.
Honda booked total EV-related losses of 1.45 trillion yen for the business year ended March and expects to face additional costs of 500 billion yen for the year just started. That compares with EV writedown costs of up to 2.5 trillion yen that Honda estimated in March.
https://www.reuters.com/business/au...nnual-loss-hit-by-hefty-ev-charge-2026-05-14/
irvinehomeowner
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Probably 2028-29 after some admin change.
morekaos
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Interesting take…
New EV sales in April – the second full month of the war – were down 6.2% compared with March, and down a whopping 23% from the year before, according to Cox Automotive.
True, overall car sales were down last month, but just by 5.4% year over year, and 1.9% from March.
But here’s the really juicy tidbit. The New Car Dealers Association reports that registrations of new EVs in California in the first quarter of this year were 40% belowQ1 2025. This is the state that has done the most to force people into electric cars, including having gasoline prices that are currently above $6 a gallon.
issuesinsights.com
The Iran War Sounds The Death Knell Of EVs
You’d think that the Iran war would have been good news for EV sales, given the boost in gasoline prices and general uncertainty it sparked. Instead, it might someday mark the beginning of the end of the left’s EV dreams.New EV sales in April – the second full month of the war – were down 6.2% compared with March, and down a whopping 23% from the year before, according to Cox Automotive.
True, overall car sales were down last month, but just by 5.4% year over year, and 1.9% from March.
But here’s the really juicy tidbit. The New Car Dealers Association reports that registrations of new EVs in California in the first quarter of this year were 40% belowQ1 2025. This is the state that has done the most to force people into electric cars, including having gasoline prices that are currently above $6 a gallon.
The Iran War Sounds The Death Knell Of EVs
New EV sales in April were down 6.2% compared with March.
issuesinsights.com
irvinehomeowner
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Fake news.
Every new tech gets it doubters.
Last weekend’s road trip to Vegas was awesome. Only 1 stop each way, cost? $32 to charge up.
Edit: And less than 30min to charge.
Every new tech gets it doubters.
Last weekend’s road trip to Vegas was awesome. Only 1 stop each way, cost? $32 to charge up.
Edit: And less than 30min to charge.
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morekaos
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hard to fake these numbers and trends…
how long did it take you to get to Vegas?
Recent Cox Automotive research indicates that while higher gas prices are driving increased interest in fuel-efficient vehicles, most shoppers continue to gravitate toward fuel-efficient gas vehicles and hybrids rather than EVs. For many consumers, the path of least resistance remains improved efficiency within familiar powertrains.
New EV Sales: New EV sales totaled an estimated 76,889 units in April, down 23.1% year over year and 6.2% month over month. EVs accounted for 5.6% of total new-vehicle sales, easing slightly from March as overall new-vehicle demand softened.
www.coxautoinc.com
how long did it take you to get to Vegas?EV Market Monitor – April 2026
May 15, 2026Recent Cox Automotive research indicates that while higher gas prices are driving increased interest in fuel-efficient vehicles, most shoppers continue to gravitate toward fuel-efficient gas vehicles and hybrids rather than EVs. For many consumers, the path of least resistance remains improved efficiency within familiar powertrains.
New EV Sales: New EV sales totaled an estimated 76,889 units in April, down 23.1% year over year and 6.2% month over month. EVs accounted for 5.6% of total new-vehicle sales, easing slightly from March as overall new-vehicle demand softened.
EV Market Monitor – April 2026 - Cox Automotive Inc.
The EV Market Monitor gauges the health of the new and used electric vehicle (EV) markets by monitoring sales, inventory and pricing.
www.coxautoinc.com