Experts admit global warming predictions wrong

It shows there is no need for any. Again, in a kinda libertarian way, no one is keeping you from taking any means you see necessary to protect yourself and your family from the coming apocalypse.
 
morekaos said:
It shows there is no need for any. Again, in a kinda libertarian way, no one is keeping you from taking any means you see necessary to protect yourself and your family from the coming apocalypse.

Agree that it's the libertarian POV...just seems like a poor way to establish social policy.
 
But the fact that there is no public support for immediate action indicates they don?t see a need for immediate action or social policy.  They just don?t believe or don?t care.
 
morekaos said:
But the fact that there is no public support for immediate action indicates they don?t see a need for immediate action or social policy.  They just don?t believe or don?t care.

Like most things in life, it is generally a bad idea to set policy or make decisions on a reactionary basis. 
 
morekaos said:
Or lack of reaction?  Are you advocating taking action without consent.

We have a republican government...consent is implicitly given to the representatives.  Policies should seldomly be made in hindsight or in reaction to things.
 
Happiness said:
morekaos said:
Or lack of reaction?  Are you advocating taking action without consent.
It's like communism, you're being liberated whether you like it or not.

It's like the ultimate phantom slippery slope...somehow proactive policies means communism.

Seriously...people must have been jailed in gulags in a past life.
 
Irvinecommuter said:
Happiness said:
morekaos said:
Or lack of reaction?  Are you advocating taking action without consent.
It's like communism, you're being liberated whether you like it or not.

It's like the ultimate phantom slippery slope...somehow proactive policies means communism.

Seriously...people must have been jailed in gulags in a past life.

But don?t you see that it is that exact unilateral attitude that gave rise to trump? The ?you masses are children, too uneducated and unsophisticated to understand your own peril that we will do for you what you are too stupid to do for yourself.?...look what that got ya.
 
This MAGA attitude can best be summed up as ? ? yeah we lost  Miami to rising sea levels , but at least we owned the libs !! ?
 
guys, the world is going to end in 12 years anyway, so who cares!

Ocasio-Cortez: 'World will end in 12 years' if climate change not addressed

?Millennials and people, you know, Gen Z and all these folks that will come after us are looking up and we?re like: ?The world is gonna end in 12 years if we don?t address climate change and your biggest issue is how are we gonna pay for it?' " Ocasio-Cortez asked Coates.

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/426353-ocasio-cortez-the-world-will-end-in-12-years-if-we-dont-address

the ultimate irony is her being denied a spot on the climate change committee and her "green new deal" doesn't mean diddly squat because the US is not the problem when it comes to CO2 emissions!

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how about this: maybe she should get on board with trump in negotiating deals with "evil nations" like china who are polluting the world? nah, can't be seen on the same side of any issue as trump!
 
fortune11 said:
This MAGA attitude can best be summed up as ? ? yeah we lost  Miami to rising sea levels , but at least we owned the libs !! ?

Or, isn't Miami beautiful?  Remember a hundred years ago when all those idiots wanted to ruin our economy to fight global warming that never happened because none of their complicated computer models ever were right?  Good thing we own the Libs!!
 
morekaos said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Happiness said:
morekaos said:
Or lack of reaction?  Are you advocating taking action without consent.
It's like communism, you're being liberated whether you like it or not.

It's like the ultimate phantom slippery slope...somehow proactive policies means communism.

Seriously...people must have been jailed in gulags in a past life.

But don?t you see that it is that exact unilateral attitude that gave rise to trump? The ?you masses are children, too uneducated and unsophisticated to understand your own peril that we will do for you what you are too stupid to do for yourself.?...look what that got ya.

Yes...we should pander to the ignorant and angry. 

I rather my government be forward thinking and lead rather than reactionary and stagnant.
 
morekaos said:
fortune11 said:
This MAGA attitude can best be summed up as ? ? yeah we lost  Miami to rising sea levels , but at least we owned the libs !! ?

Or, isn't Miami beautiful?  Remember a hundred years ago when all those idiots wanted to ruin our economy to fight global warming that never happened because none of their complicated computer models ever were right?  Good thing we own the Libs!!

More 20th century thinking...transition into a green economy and reducing carbon emission are fantastic job/economy boosters.  Decentralization of the power grid, installation/building of green infrastructure, R&D into new green technology, and other green jobs are exactly what a first-world country like the US needs.  Relatively high paying jobs that cannot be outsourced.

This is basically like Trump saying that we need to save steel and coal jobs.

I don't understand why GOP/conservatives are so ready to rest on their laurels...US did not become the leader of the world by doing what other countries did.
 
Kings said:
guys, the world is going to end in 12 years anyway, so who cares!

Yeah..that's the American motto..."WE ARE GOING TO JUST SIT HERE AND DOING NOTHING UNTIL OTHER PEOPLE DO IT"!  You know the moon?  We are just going to sit here until the Soviet go there.

Being a leader means that you lead...if you don't...someone else will and then people will follow that person. 

Seriously...MAGA just seems like a pouty kid who keeps telling other people that he is going to take his ball home every 5 seconds.  Pretty soon, people are just going to ignore the kid and exclude him from the games.
 
We are leading...and going to stay there for a very long time...

America is now the world's largest oil producer

Move over Russia and Saudi Arabia. America has reclaimed its throne atop the oil world.
For the first time since 1973, the United States is the world's largest producer of crude oil, according to preliminary estimates published on Wednesday by the Energy Department.

https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/12/investing/us-oil-production-russia-saudi-arabia/index.html
 
morekaos said:
We are leading...and going to stay there for a very long time...

America is now the world's largest oil producer

Move over Russia and Saudi Arabia. America has reclaimed its throne atop the oil world.
For the first time since 1973, the United States is the world's largest producer of crude oil, according to preliminary estimates published on Wednesday by the Energy Department.

https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/12/investing/us-oil-production-russia-saudi-arabia/index.html

Oh good....it's like the leader of producing horses and buggies at the beginning of the 20th century.
 
I don't think energy is the same as a buggy whip.  We are and will dominate this sector for quite awhile.  It is an energy hungry world and we have what they need.
 
Irvinecommuter said:
morekaos said:
We are leading...and going to stay there for a very long time...

America is now the world's largest oil producer

Move over Russia and Saudi Arabia. America has reclaimed its throne atop the oil world.
For the first time since 1973, the United States is the world's largest producer of crude oil, according to preliminary estimates published on Wednesday by the Energy Department.

https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/12/investing/us-oil-production-russia-saudi-arabia/index.html

Oh good....it's like the leader of producing horses and buggies at the beginning of the 20th century.

Says the guy who's carbon footprint is probably 20x that of the average human being.  Doh!
 
morekaos said:
I don't think energy is the same as a buggy whip.  We are and will dominate this sector for quite awhile.  It is an energy hungry world and we have what they need.

Energy is like transportation...it's the mode and production that matters.
 
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