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[quote author="Nude" date=1258614582][quote author="bltserv" date=1258614226]<blockquote>I?m not condemning the dolls or the idea behind them, just the idea of a ?doll spa day? targeted at turning little girls into lifelong spa customers. </blockquote>


And what is wrong with going to a Spa on a regular basis ? Have you ever been to a Spa Mr. Nude ?



Come to think of it.

I dont see too many people in 1985 PickUp trucks pulling up to the Spa in Ojai very often.</blockquote>


Is there a reason you are attacking me personally?</blockquote>


Someone mentioned my screen name? =)
 
[quote author="reason" date=1258614842][quote author="Nude" date=1258614582][quote author="bltserv" date=1258614226]<blockquote>I?m not condemning the dolls or the idea behind them, just the idea of a ?doll spa day? targeted at turning little girls into lifelong spa customers. </blockquote>


And what is wrong with going to a Spa on a regular basis ? Have you ever been to a Spa Mr. Nude ?



Come to think of it.

I dont see too many people in 1985 PickUp trucks pulling up to the Spa in Ojai very often.</blockquote>


Is there a reason you are attacking me personally?</blockquote>


Someone mentioned my screen name? =)</blockquote>


Not sure see a personal attack. I may have insulted your vehicle though.



Please accept my humble apology if you or your truck was offended.
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1258614224][quote author="childplease" date=1258612749][quote author="bkshopr" date=1258610974]

<span style="color: red;">Porn was much harder to acquire when I was growing up as adolescent. </span>

</blockquote>


I'm sure you managed to find it just fine. Or maybe you didn't and can now credit that for your wonderful imagination.</blockquote>


I know you don't have much of an imagination since you are spoiled by your parents. The only thing that was left during your childhood and adulthood imagination was a job.</blockquote>


haha...I do lack imagination. I guess you were busy using your imagination when you were washing dishes, daydreaming of being somewhere else doing something fun while I was actually doing it. Who needs an imagination when you can have it right in front of you...unless you watched Russell Peters and imagined yourself as the first chinese american superhero...Tap Sum Bong. You keep dreaming, I'll keep living.
 
[quote author="childplease" date=1258615428][quote author="bkshopr" date=1258614224][quote author="childplease" date=1258612749][quote author="bkshopr" date=1258610974]

<span style="color: red;">Porn was much harder to acquire when I was growing up as adolescent. </span>

</blockquote>


I'm sure you managed to find it just fine. Or maybe you didn't and can now credit that for your wonderful imagination.</blockquote>


I know you don't have much of an imagination since you are spoiled by your parents. The only thing that was left during your childhood and adulthood imagination was a job.</blockquote>


haha...I do lack imagination. I guess you were busy using your imagination while washing dishes and daydreaming of being somewhere else doing something fun while I was actually doing it. Who needs an imagination when you can have it right in front of you. You keep dreaming, I'll keep living.</blockquote>


Don't know what's brewing between you and BK, but everyone does need imagination. You can have it all, but if you don't need something else also, where is the drive to keep life going? Even if you reading a book you need imagination to help fuel your interest..
 
[quote author="Cubic Zirconia" date=1258615644][quote author="childplease" date=1258615428][quote author="bkshopr" date=1258614224][quote author="childplease" date=1258612749][quote author="bkshopr" date=1258610974]

<span style="color: red;">Porn was much harder to acquire when I was growing up as adolescent. </span>

</blockquote>


I'm sure you managed to find it just fine. Or maybe you didn't and can now credit that for your wonderful imagination.</blockquote>


I know you don't have much of an imagination since you are spoiled by your parents. The only thing that was left during your childhood and adulthood imagination was a job.</blockquote>


haha...I do lack imagination. I guess you were busy using your imagination while washing dishes and daydreaming of being somewhere else doing something fun while I was actually doing it. Who needs an imagination when you can have it right in front of you. You keep dreaming, I'll keep living.</blockquote>


Don't know what's brewing between you and BK, but everyone does need imagination. You can have it all, but if you don't need something else also, where is the drive to keep life going? Even if you reading a book you need imagination to help fuel your interest..</blockquote>


Yes, you're absolutely correct about needing an imagination. And BK started it. Nudes on the hitlist too, but I let him bury himself. Plus it's no fun to join the crowd and clown on guys like newportskipper. bk is a wise man, like miyagi son or yoda, so I like to give him a hard time. Can you imagine what daniel son would've thought if miyagi told him porn was hard to find? I don't have an imagination so please let me know.
 
[quote author="childplease" date=1258616522]Yes, you're absolutely correct about needing an imagination. And BK started it. Nudes on the hitlist too, but I let him bury himself. Plus it's no fun to join the crowd and clown on guys like newportskipper. bk is a wise man, like miyagi son or yoda, so I like to give him a hard time. Can you imagine what daniel son would've thought if miyagi told him porn was hard to find? I don't have an imagination so please let me know.</blockquote>


You have a hitlist, I have an ignore list. Welcome to it.
 
I totally get everyone's point of view here, except that I can't really figure out what childplease is trying to do other than annoy. I appreciate Nude, Bk and CZ very much for their opinions and since I knew nothing of "American Girl" before this, thanks all for the education.
 
[quote author="Nude" date=1258616733][quote author="childplease" date=1258616522]Yes, you're absolutely correct about needing an imagination. And BK started it. Nudes on the hitlist too, but I let him bury himself. Plus it's no fun to join the crowd and clown on guys like newportskipper. bk is a wise man, like miyagi son or yoda, so I like to give him a hard time. Can you imagine what daniel son would've thought if miyagi told him porn was hard to find? I don't have an imagination so please let me know.</blockquote>


You have a hitlist, I have an ignore list. Welcome to it.</blockquote>


You used the ignore button on me eh? That hurts feelings...I'm sorry. But for someone who claims (above on this thread) to have been raised to be open-minded, you're pretty opinionated and judgemental of those that differ from you from the posts of yours that I've read. Can someone forward this message to NUDE?
 
[quote author="tmare" date=1258617793]I totally get everyone's point of view here, except that I can't really figure out what childplease is trying to do other than annoy. I appreciate Nude, Bk and CZ very much for their opinions and since I knew nothing of "American Girl" before this, thanks all for the education.</blockquote>


I think you said you're a teacher right? I'm sure you have to deal w/ annoying @$$'s like me all the time so I'll shut up...unless of course someone eggs me on.

I just hope you're a fair teacher and call out everyone for putting others down.
 
[quote author="childplease" date=1258618729][quote author="tmare" date=1258617793]I totally get everyone's point of view here, except that I can't really figure out what childplease is trying to do other than annoy. I appreciate Nude, Bk and CZ very much for their opinions and since I knew nothing of "American Girl" before this, thanks all for the education.</blockquote>


I think you said you're a teacher right? I'm sure you have to deal w/ <strong>annoying @$$'s like me </strong>all the time so I'll shut up...unless of course someone eggs me on.

I just hope you're a fair teacher and call out everyone for putting others down.</blockquote>


Yes, I do and yes, I am a fair teacher. I'm just quite unsure what the point is in essentially saying, "I'm a spoiled brat and I think everyone should be".
 
[quote author="childplease" date=1258617817][quote author="Nude" date=1258616733]



You have a hitlist, I have an ignore list. Welcome to it.</blockquote>


You used the ignore button on me eh? That hurts feelings...I'm sorry. But for someone who claims (above on this thread) to have been raised to be open-minded, you're pretty opinionated and judgemental of those that differ from you from the posts of yours that I've read.</blockquote>


I said I was raised to respect people regardless of differences over which they had no control. That does not mean people get a free pass because they think a certain way or pray to a specific deity or belong to a certain group. I hold people accountable for what they say and do, but I'm not biased about it. I hold doors for people, not just women. I think dragging someone to death behind a truck is a capital crime, it doesn't matter why it was done. And on this board, I treat people by the only standards available on the internet: consistency and intellectual honesty. If you admit to being a liar, <em>and then continue to lie anyway</em> I am going to treat you as a liar. If you post solid opinion based on facts, figures, and provide links to such, I'm going to treat your opinion with respect even if I disagree with it. If I seem opinionated it is because I have an opinion and I defend it when challenged, both for my edification and anyone reading it but also so that I may be corrected if I'm wrong. If I seem judgmental, it's because I call it as I see it and I see no reason to claim obvious BS is chocolate milk when it's clearly BS. I try to avoid personal attacks, but there comes a point where the argument is no longer about an idea but about the person pushing the idea and their motives for doing so. In general, I ridicule the argument or the idea, not the person making it.



If you have some sort of vendetta against me based on some perceived insult, get over it. I never singled you out, it wasn't personal, I don't have enough time on this planet to care whether your feelings get hurt or not, and if you can't handle your opinion being attacked you should examine why rather than point a finger at me and say I am mean.
 
[quote author="tmare" date=1258620295][quote author="childplease" date=1258618729][quote author="tmare" date=1258617793]I totally get everyone's point of view here, except that I can't really figure out what childplease is trying to do other than annoy. I appreciate Nude, Bk and CZ very much for their opinions and since I knew nothing of "American Girl" before this, thanks all for the education.</blockquote>


I think you said you're a teacher right? I'm sure you have to deal w/ <strong>annoying @$$'s like me </strong>all the time so I'll shut up...unless of course someone eggs me on.

I just hope you're a fair teacher and call out everyone for putting others down.</blockquote>


Yes, I do and yes, I am a fair teacher. I'm just quite unsure what the point is in essentially saying, "I'm a spoiled brat and I think everyone should be".</blockquote>


Actually, I just wrote that to make fun of myself as a way of making peace and apologizing. It's you that's saying, I'm a spoiled brat and that I think everyone should be, not me. Now you're instigating, putting words in my mouth and trying to annoy...exactly what you excused me of. I like your style. Where were your comments to BK for trying to clown on me? Let me guess, you go the easy route by picking on me w/ no friends on this blog. I now get why you chose to teach. Did I just burn another bridge? Sorry...
 
[quote author="childplease" date=1258621626][quote author="tmare" date=1258620295][quote author="childplease" date=1258618729][quote author="tmare" date=1258617793]I totally get everyone's point of view here, except that I can't really figure out what childplease is trying to do other than annoy. I appreciate Nude, Bk and CZ very much for their opinions and since I knew nothing of "American Girl" before this, thanks all for the education.</blockquote>


I think you said you're a teacher right? I'm sure you have to deal w/ <strong>annoying @$$'s like me </strong>all the time so I'll shut up...unless of course someone eggs me on.

I just hope you're a fair teacher and call out everyone for putting others down.</blockquote>


Yes, I do and yes, I am a fair teacher. I'm just quite unsure what the point is in essentially saying, "I'm a spoiled brat and I think everyone should be".</blockquote>


Actually, I just wrote that to make fun of myself as a way of making peace and apologizing. It's you that's saying, I'm a spoiled brat and that I think everyone should be, not me. Now you're instigating, putting words in my mouth and trying to annoy...exactly what you excused me of. I like your style. Where were your comments to BK for trying to clown on me? Let me guess, you go the easy route by picking on me w/ no friends on this blog. I now get why you chose to teach. Did I just burn another bridge? Sorry...</blockquote>


Ok, so you are harmless. I'll take this opportunity to welcome you to the IHB since I guess I never did that before. Now start saying things I agree with, damnit! ;-P
 
Childplease,



You were born during the Star War era where special effect was already on the way to the peak of its art form. If you think you know about access to porn let me inform you about its history that neither you nor your parent would know.



From 1960?s-1970?s porn was produced on 35mm. The reel measured 18? diameter and 2-2/2 inch thick and try to hide that under your mattress along with a $800 45 pound movie projector that play it. This was the era where men from all walk of life dressed in raincoat and frequent Pussycat theatres and other independent theatres that has already grown into $ million industry.



Ironically many of these theaters were converted from fancy historic movie palaces across mostly affluent neighborhoods in the US. However, since your circle and experience is limited so I will elaborate just the OC region: with the Fox in Downtown Fullerton, Mitchell Brothers in Floral Park, Lido in Newport Beach and Corona Del Mar, South Coast Twin across the street from South Coast Plaza, numerous Buena Park and Anaheim Independent locations near theme parks and even a few theatres in Huntington Beach. The locations of theatres cause an erosion of legacy neighborhoods and some still have not recovered from it since.



Before 8mm men including judges, police officers and many influential people went to these public places for their happy ending. These theaters checked for ID to exclude minors. The location in Floral Park was the location for influential politicians from the nearby courthouses.



For those who could not afford a hefty admission for a 2 hour show peep show adult bookstores were in mostly Garden Grove and Santa Ana offered arcade by the minutes. Garden Grove and Santa Ana have not been able to overcome its seedy reputation.



When 8mm 15 minute features made their way into homes during the late 70?s some theatres began to face decline of patronage. Access to private films was difficult and very costly. By the mid 80?s Beta and VHS became more popular in homes and many theatres began to close their doors leaving the already reputation ruined communities deserted. Community redevelopment agency went into full action to bring life back to the neighborhoods. The perverts are now viewing porn in the privacy of their own homes and this was the first time minor got access to porn through the hands of family members.



It was the 80?s where porn made mainstream where national chain stores began to dedicate a back corner of the store with a curtain. Many adult book and video arcade closed their door for not being able to compete with places like Wherehouse, Music plus, Tower Records and thousands of mom and pop video stores in OC. More that 40% of the video revenue were generated from the adult video for these stores. A video store was at every strip mall and more than 7-11 and neighborhood gas stations combined. Kids could have gained access from the irresponsible mom and pop stores.



Perverts are everywhere including the suburbs of Irvine. Adult video were available in all stores for 2 decades until Blockbuster began their family value campaign. Headquarter in Long Beach Blockbuster made their decision not to carry any adult titles.



Minor without a credit card have no access to the VHS. The tapes were stored at the counter and the boxes were empty so kids would sneak behind the curtain and ripped a corner off the box.



Access was still difficult for minors. The owner of liquor stores watched the magazine rack like a hawk and intimidated all kids loitering around the rack. Magazines have always been the choice of porn due to its portability and easy to be stored discreetly. Porn with moving images pretty much destroyed the magazine market and only those national brands considered ?artistic? continued to survive with a huge decline in subscription over the last decade.





The only way for kids to have access was to steal magazines before the computer age.



You grew up during the computer era and knew very little by thinking that everything comes very easily at the push of a button.



What can I say? You are the generation with sense of entitlement.
 
Sheesh bk, and I thought *I* hijacked the thread.



Besides, the best porn was in the bookstore in the "Erotica" section, except for Waldenbooks, who stored them alphabetically amongst the regular fiction ;)
 
[quote author="Nude" date=1258625065]Sheesh bk, and I thought *I* hijacked the thread.



Besides, the best porn was in the bookstore in the "Erotica" section, except for Waldenbooks, who stored them alphabetically amongst the regular fiction ;)</blockquote>


Sorry for the hi jack and tainted this nice thread CZ. It was all CP's fault.
 
so, to sum this up



CZ: "I'd like to do something nice for my daughter"

Most of IHB: "Awwwww"

Nude: "WTF?!? What about feminism, what about Gloria Steinem, were all those bra's burned in vain?"

Most of IHB: "Dude, chill out"

Nude: "Sorry... but what about all those bras?"

BK: "Nude, chill, here is history of doll company. And here is history of pr0n in Orange County"

Nude: "Bk, whoa!"



The end.



CZ, I hope your daughter has fun ;)
 
Thanks, Nude. It's always nice to have a check on our indulgences. As much as I'd like to see my daughter become an engineer or have some other career in a male dominated field, I just can't help but notice when she takes her doll out to the backyard and strolls her around in the stroller, swings her on the swing and sends her down the slide then gives her a bottle and a big hug. My son NEVER showed any inkling towards any of these behaviors and we never actually encouraged any of them in my daughter either. Sometimes girls just have to be girls :)
 
[quote author="Nude" date=1258628163]so, to sum this up



CZ: "I'd like to do something nice for my daughter"

Most of IHB: "Awwwww"

Nude: "WTF?!? What about feminism, what about Gloria Steinem, were all those bra's burned in vain?"

Most of IHB: "Dude, chill out"

Nude: "Sorry... but what about all those bras?"

BK: "Nude, chill, here is history of doll company. And here is history of pr0n in Orange County"

Nude: "Bk, whoa!"



The end.



CZ, I hope your daughter has fun ;)</blockquote>


What about CP's comment? He should be in the table of contents too.
 
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