rkp said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Well... to be fair... you cut out the part where Irvine Dream said "in Irvine".
I tend to agree... detached SFR with own driveway and 5000sft is upper middle class *in Irvine*.
Motorcourt is middle class (unless you buy La Vita).
Attached is lower middle class.
3CWG is extinct class.
you are saying the same thing as the michigan writer...her $250K + $2M house is middle class in palo alto but the reality is that its still upper middle class and you cant just focus on a very narrow view. to take to the extreme, imagine a street full of mansions that all have bentleys in front except 1 house that has a camry. would it make sense for the camry mansion guy to say he is rich or middle class based on his street? he is rich regardless. he chose the camry. irvine dream might want a big house and lot and driveway but he chose irvine.
whether you *feel* middle class, rich, or whatever, it doesnt change what you are based on income and spending ability.
also irvine has a massive number of condos and apartments. i would imagine that 5-10% of the residents live in traditional SFH with 5000 sq lot and driveway. so even if we were to use your relative definition, such a house would still be in the upper tier of irvine.
I think you are taking this too seriously.
But I'll expand on your example. What if the guy with the Camry put all his money into the mansion and could only afford a Camry? Then relative to his neighbors, he is "lower" on the class scale.
As I was trying to say, it's all relative. He may be rich by non-mansion owner standards, but to his neighbors, he's the "least" rich of them.
Now, if he could afford a Bentley, but chose to buy the Camry... that's a different story.
As for Irvine Dream's comparison by house style, it's fairly accurate in today's new home market.