ICE or EV?

Which car(s) will you be buying next?

  • ICE ICE Baby (morekaos dinosaur option)

    Votes: 15 32.6%

  • EV forEVa (unicorns for all)

    Votes: 24 52.2%

  • PHEV (I still have range anxiety)

    Votes: 5 10.9%

  • Hybrid (can't plug in yet)

    Votes: 5 10.9%

  • Alternative fuel (Hydrogen, vegetable oil, etc)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Total voters
    46
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irvinehomeowner said:
I would hope morekaos would tell you what's wrong with your math but his bias won't let you.

Hint: You said it first... Tesla sales in the last few year. Compare those numbers and then we can talk.

And declining sales should mean nothing according to morekaos math... if you sold 2 last year and sold only 1 last year... that's a 50% drop!!! :)
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You are deflecting because the numbers for Tesla are so bad, and getting worse.
 
Liar Loan said:
You are deflecting because the numbers for Tesla are so bad, and getting worse.
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No... I am once again proving you wrong.

This is what you said:
Liar Loan said:
Tesla has been around for over 20 years and they haven't caught on.
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Are you sure?

Who had the top selling vehicle the last few years?

Who had record sales growth YOY in the early 2020s?

You should stay out of threads you have little knowledge about... I told you this already. And neither you or MK own an EV so how can you even talk about them? Just like an Irvine home.

So sad... trying so hard to go after me (you weren't even part of this convo to begin with) you are wading in with assumptions.

Sure, Telsa sales are falling... partly due to Musk's affiliation with your party and his role in DOGE. But of course you all don't want to recognize that. In fact, you weren't even talking smack about him when he was pro-Trump.

Maybe you can start a thread about a subject you have experience with and I'll go in there so you can finally have an advantage.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
No... I am once again proving you wrong.
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Wrong again. The information I posted was from ChatGPT, your most trusted source.

irvinehomeowner said:
Who had the top selling vehicle the last few years?
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Toyota sold the most vehicles in 2024 followed by Ford, Chevy, Honda and Hyundai. (source: Edmunds.com)

irvinehomeowner said:
Sure, Telsa sales are falling... partly due to Musk's affiliation with your party and his role in DOGE. But of course you all don't want to recognize that. In fact, you weren't even talking smack about him when he was pro-Trump.
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I'm sorry, but I don't belong to Musk's political party. I've posted before about all the disgruntled Tesla owners on the road, with their anti-Tesla bumper stickers and their Trump/Musk derangement. I haven't talked smack about Musk period.
 
Keep cherry picking. Again.... I said globally.

You'll find it... and then owe me another apology.

P.S. If you even read this thread instead of jumping in swinging with your eyes closed... I posted what you are ignoring in this very thread.
 
Tesla was the 14th largest seller of cars in 2023 after Toyota, Volkswagen, Honda, Ford, Hyundai, Nissan, Suzuki, Kia, Chevrolet, BYD, BMW, Mercedes-Benz, and Audi.

Tesla should be very proud they came in ahead of Renault!!

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The global sales data? You keep dancing around that.

I understand... you were wrong again and I trying very hard to not have to apologize. The continual dance is just more proof.
 
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irvinehomeowner said:
But he didn't sell it all.

And just the fact he owns so much of it should tell you something.

But I realize you can't be objective, this is such a reach. Nothing to see here.
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He did now…Buffet invests in long term value…he sees none in this now…🤷🏽‍♂️😂😂😂🦄🌈

Buffett’s Berkshire totally exits its profitable stake in Chinese EV maker bought because of Munger​

Buffett has not explained in detail why Berkshire started selling, but, in 2023, he told CNBC’s Becky Quick that BYD is an “extraordinary company” being run by an “extraordinary person,” but “I think that we’ll find things to do with the money that I’ll feel better about.”

 
…And more are seeing the light….ICE still rules the roost….😂😂😂👍🏽
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Porsche Is the Latest in a Growing List of Automakers Hitting the Brakes on EV Ambitions

Porsche scrapped plans for a future battery-powered luxury SUV and shifted focus back to petrol-powered engines and hybrid models. This move will result in a $2.1 billion hit to operating profit and force both Porsche and its parent, Volkswagen AG, to revise their full-year forecasts.

Besides Porsche and Volkswagen, other European peers, such as Stellantis NV and Renault SA, are also struggling with dismal EV demand after they invested billions of dollars in the technology.

Matthias Schmidt, an independent auto analyst based near Hamburg, told Bloomberg that auto buyers “are putting little value on luxury electric cars,” adding, “Porsche has now realized this and is jumping back into high-margin combustion-engine models.”

https://thelibertydaily.com/porsche-is-latest-growing-list-automakers-hitting-brakes/
 
My original comment still stands: Tesla has been around for over 20 years and they haven't caught on. In fact, many consumers revile Teslas and don't give a second thought to the also-ran EV market. This is an example of you being highly biased due to the Irvine bubble that you're trapped in.
 
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