Liar Loan
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That's actually not what I said in either instance. It's obvious you're trying to twist the truth to save face, but nobody really cares.
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1. He said no one was even saying it was unconstitutional.
2. He said cite the ruling that said it was a violation of the Constitution.
2nd passage of Judge Breyer's ruling did both. No splitting hairs, no twisting... not even ChatGPT. It's just plain English.
And by you saying I was right if even for a limited time (which doesn't really factor in because that wasn't the challenge), proves he was wrong.
Thanks morekaos!!!
and it is the left who keeps saying RACIST/FACISTS for anyone they disagree with and there are countless examples of left wing politicians explicitly inciting violence in their speeches.
irvinehomeowner
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You mean you are twisting what you said?
I quoted you for reference.
Just let go!!!!
I quoted you for reference.
Just let go!!!!
Liar Loan
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You know IHO is defeated when he says "Just let go!!!!". Poor guy.
At the end of the day Trump's actions were ruled Constitutional by the Supreme Court and the 9th Circuit has also said he is likely to prevail on the bogus lawsuit from Gavinor Newscum. All the rest is just noise.
At the end of the day Trump's actions were ruled Constitutional by the Supreme Court and the 9th Circuit has also said he is likely to prevail on the bogus lawsuit from Gavinor Newscum. All the rest is just noise.
irvinehomeowner
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Read the convo again. He challenged me in 2 posts and I even quoted both of them.you’re splitting hairs, LL was saying that it is constitutional, some wayward judge did said it was unconstitutional, but in the end LL was right, and it was proven out by the Supreme Court. You were technically right for about a day so, in a warped way, you’re both right
1. He said no one was even saying it was unconstitutional.
2. He said cite the ruling that said it was a violation of the Constitution.
2nd passage of Judge Breyer's ruling did both. No splitting hairs, no twisting... not even ChatGPT. It's just plain English.
And by you saying I was right if even for a limited time (which doesn't really factor in because that wasn't the challenge), proves he was wrong.
Thanks morekaos!!!
irvinehomeowner
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Are you sure that's what was ruled? Maybe you and morekaos should read again. Day is not over.
irvinehomeowner
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How about someone neutral like zovall or qwerty taking a read of this and saying what really happened.
I knew that even if I made you cite the ruling you were still going to fight it.
So sad.
I knew that even if I made you cite the ruling you were still going to fight it.
So sad.
morekaos
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OK, I’m more concerned about the party that is supposedly passive and peaceful, but keeps shooting, stabbing, punching and killing the party that is supposed to be so politically violent…stop already
. Any guesses on the scumbag shooters vitals?
justthenews.com
. Any guesses on the scumbag shooters vitals?
Shooter still at large in Charlie Kirk shooting: CNN
Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk was shot on Wednesday at an event in Utah.
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Imnotmoving
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Fine I’ll say it. You both could stand to learn to keep it to yourself. Especially when arguing just makes you both seem hard headed. When I see people arguing I usually disregard both. I will listen to calm and reasonable discussions only.
Liar Loan
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A Trans militant seems likely since that's what Kirk was addressing when the shot rang out, but we'll see.OK, I’m more concerned about the party that is supposedly passive and peaceful, but keeps shooting, stabbing, punching and killing the party that is supposed to be so politically violent…stop already
Shooter still at large in Charlie Kirk shooting: CNN
Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk was shot on Wednesday at an event in Utah.
morekaos
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We are gonna find out who in the violent left murdered him…
“Assassination culture is spreading on the left,” Kirk posted to X on April 7. “Forty-eight percent of liberals say it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk. Fifty-five percent said the same about Donald Trump.”
Kirk refers to a report from Network Contagion Research Institute (NCRI) which polled Americans on their attitudes towards assassination.
“[T]olerance – and even advocacy – for political violence appears to have surged, especially among politically left-leaning segments of the population,” the report reads.
dailycaller.com
Charlie Kirk Warned Of ‘Assassination Culture’ Months Before His Own Assassination
Charlie Kirk warned of a growing left-wing appetite for violence months before he was shot dead.“Assassination culture is spreading on the left,” Kirk posted to X on April 7. “Forty-eight percent of liberals say it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk. Fifty-five percent said the same about Donald Trump.”
Kirk refers to a report from Network Contagion Research Institute (NCRI) which polled Americans on their attitudes towards assassination.
“[T]olerance – and even advocacy – for political violence appears to have surged, especially among politically left-leaning segments of the population,” the report reads.
One Of Charlie Kirk's Best Tweets Tragically Turns Out To Be Most Eerie
Charlie Kirk warned of a growing left-wing appetite for violence months before he was shot dead.
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Imnotmoving
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Stop saying violent left. And what is a trans militant? All these phrases incite more hate and violence. If you wouldn’t say it to your mother you shouldn’t write it on the Internet.We are gonna find out who in the violent left murdered him…
Charlie Kirk Warned Of ‘Assassination Culture’ Months Before His Own Assassination
Charlie Kirk warned of a growing left-wing appetite for violence months before he was shot dead.
“Assassination culture is spreading on the left,” Kirk posted to X on April 7. “Forty-eight percent of liberals say it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk. Fifty-five percent said the same about Donald Trump.”
Kirk refers to a report from Network Contagion Research Institute (NCRI) which polled Americans on their attitudes towards assassination.
“[T]olerance – and even advocacy – for political violence appears to have surged, especially among politically left-leaning segments of the population,” the report reads.
One Of Charlie Kirk's Best Tweets Tragically Turns Out To Be Most Eerie
Charlie Kirk warned of a growing left-wing appetite for violence months before he was shot dead.
morekaos
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I didn’t say tranny
The Motor Court Company
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violent left is the correct word. BLM has done more far property damages vs J6.
and it is the left who keeps saying RACIST/FACISTS for anyone they disagree with and there are countless examples of left wing politicians explicitly inciting violence in their speeches.
Imnotmoving
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Liar loan said trans not tranny. Tranny is extremely offensive.I didn’t say tranny
qwerty
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sleepy5136
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Honestly does it even matter who shot Charlie? As a citizen, I’m more concerned about the message that was sent. Speaking up and defending your values/thoughts can get you assassinated. What happened to freedom of speech? The concern I think we all should have is how the country is regressing.
And what about those two daughters that will live life not having a father anymore? What about the wife losing the love of her life at such a young age?
And what about those two daughters that will live life not having a father anymore? What about the wife losing the love of her life at such a young age?
morekaos
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Of course it matters. Charlie was a private citizen, not even an elected official. 100% targeted because of his political views. Political Violence is growing but it seems to only be from one side. Notice how the trans/Trump hating lunatic who killed children while they prayed story has already been memory holed? This one needs to be remembered, made an example of and prosecuted. This violence from the left must end.
www.americanthinker.com
A history of violence
The assassination of Charlie Kirk is a horrific reminder that the left is based on nothing other than terror, violence, and aggression. This has been true since Karl howled to Friedrich that the bourgeois would someday pay for his plague of s...
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irvinehomeowner
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Weren't the lawmakers that were killed Democrats?
It's sad when anyone is killed.
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My friend says political violence has increased on the left, is that true?
Your friend’s assertion that political violence has increased on the left is a complex and nuanced topic. Recent events and studies indicate that while there has been a notable uptick in politically motivated violence in the United States, the majority of these incidents are attributed to right-wing extremists.
Recent Trends in Political Violence
A significant incident highlighting current tensions occurred on September 10, 2025, when Charlie Kirk, a prominent conservative activist and ally of Donald Trump, was fatally shot during a speaking event at Utah Valley University. The FBI recovered a high-powered rifle believed to have been used in the killing, and while two individuals were initially detained, they were later released. The gunman remains at large, and authorities are continuing their investigation .
This event has intensified concerns about escalating political violence in the U.S. Experts warn that such incidents could trigger a “vicious spiral” of retaliatory attacks, further deepening divisions in an already polarized nation .
Comparative Analysis of Left-Wing and Right-Wing Violence
Studies have examined the prevalence and severity of political violence associated with different ideological groups. Research co-led by the University of Maryland found that, in the United States, right-wing extremists are more likely to commit violent acts compared to left-wing extremists. Specifically, the probability of a violent act being committed by a right-wing extremist was found to be 0.61, compared to 0.33 for a left-wing extremist .
Globally, the Global Terrorism Database indicates that attacks by Islamist extremists are more likely to result in fatalities than those by right-wing extremists. However, left-wing extremist attacks are generally less likely to result in fatalities compared to right-wing attacks .
Recent Concerns About Left-Wing Violence
Despite the overall lower incidence of violence associated with left-wing groups, there have been concerns about increasing radicalization and support for political violence among some left-of-center individuals. A report from the Network Contagion Research Institute revealed that a significant number of Americans identifying as “left of center” expressed support for deadly violence against figures like President Trump and Elon Musk .
Additionally, in Europe, left-wing and anarchist extremist activities have been on the rise. The European Union’s Terrorism Situation and Trend Report 2023 noted an increase in violent acts, including arson and attacks on police personnel, by left-wing and anarchist extremists in 2022 .
Conclusion
While there has been a recent uptick in politically motivated violence in the United States, the majority of these incidents are attributed to right-wing extremists. However, concerns about increasing radicalization and support for political violence among some left-of-center individuals are emerging. It’s essential to approach this issue with nuance, recognizing the complexities of political violence across the ideological spectrum.
It's sad when anyone is killed.
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My friend says political violence has increased on the left, is that true?
Your friend’s assertion that political violence has increased on the left is a complex and nuanced topic. Recent events and studies indicate that while there has been a notable uptick in politically motivated violence in the United States, the majority of these incidents are attributed to right-wing extremists.
Recent Trends in Political Violence
A significant incident highlighting current tensions occurred on September 10, 2025, when Charlie Kirk, a prominent conservative activist and ally of Donald Trump, was fatally shot during a speaking event at Utah Valley University. The FBI recovered a high-powered rifle believed to have been used in the killing, and while two individuals were initially detained, they were later released. The gunman remains at large, and authorities are continuing their investigation .
This event has intensified concerns about escalating political violence in the U.S. Experts warn that such incidents could trigger a “vicious spiral” of retaliatory attacks, further deepening divisions in an already polarized nation .
Comparative Analysis of Left-Wing and Right-Wing Violence
Studies have examined the prevalence and severity of political violence associated with different ideological groups. Research co-led by the University of Maryland found that, in the United States, right-wing extremists are more likely to commit violent acts compared to left-wing extremists. Specifically, the probability of a violent act being committed by a right-wing extremist was found to be 0.61, compared to 0.33 for a left-wing extremist .
Globally, the Global Terrorism Database indicates that attacks by Islamist extremists are more likely to result in fatalities than those by right-wing extremists. However, left-wing extremist attacks are generally less likely to result in fatalities compared to right-wing attacks .
Recent Concerns About Left-Wing Violence
Despite the overall lower incidence of violence associated with left-wing groups, there have been concerns about increasing radicalization and support for political violence among some left-of-center individuals. A report from the Network Contagion Research Institute revealed that a significant number of Americans identifying as “left of center” expressed support for deadly violence against figures like President Trump and Elon Musk .
Additionally, in Europe, left-wing and anarchist extremist activities have been on the rise. The European Union’s Terrorism Situation and Trend Report 2023 noted an increase in violent acts, including arson and attacks on police personnel, by left-wing and anarchist extremists in 2022 .
Conclusion
While there has been a recent uptick in politically motivated violence in the United States, the majority of these incidents are attributed to right-wing extremists. However, concerns about increasing radicalization and support for political violence among some left-of-center individuals are emerging. It’s essential to approach this issue with nuance, recognizing the complexities of political violence across the ideological spectrum.
Seriously, it is like going to Wikipedia to get information on a political event (there is bias in all these ‘authoritative’ tools). You have to think critically and check sources.Such lazy, vague arguments citing “studies” and “nuance” but no substantive, specific references… useless slanted analysis….try doing some of your own research instead of asking mister wizardthen cutting and pasting his opinion