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[quote author="graceomalley"]How can I post something good when knowing that they have made a mistake? Should I lie against my own conscience to make someone feel better by saying something I do not mean. Many of you can do that but not me.

To QW when someone buys an antique car they are not buying it for performance they are buying a piece of history. Out of the entire OC there are only 648 vintage homes in the surviving time capsule community. I don't plan to sell my home ever my home will be heirloom on to my heirs. I had my eye on it since 1989 and I had to outbid 3 other parties for it. I am the 3rd owner since 1933. One can't say for most homes that residents lived there for a lifetime. Again, different folks different strokes. I am only after trophy properties and Diane Keaton is my favorite actress so I wanted her childhood home. [/quote]

I understand and that is great for you, all i am saying is that what is great for you may not be great for someone else. PS - Diane Keaton is a great actress and looks very good for her age.
 
What I have been posting is only elementary. I have not even imposed my custom home standard on any of you. I created the architectural formula for Shady and sculpted the original lower Crystal Cove. Both are well thought after commanding top $$.

Believe me I have lowered my standards a lot for the recent postings. If you feel they are not appropriate for the buyers then I can only say I have already lowered my critique design standard to an Inland Empire level. Even the IE products have yards, 3CWG, TV wall and 10 steps to the front door. Take the HKC homes and place them at other locations they will all fail miserably. The magic is the location.

My conclusion is anything will sell here as long it is roofed. I don't think my comments really matter just consider them a part of entertainment.
 
Hi Folks, no matter what decision you are making, just be responsible for it, Mike needs your positive feedback to convince him that he made a good decision since it is an expensive one..Good luck mike

I am doing things that make sense: all the indicators are telling me it is NOT good time to buy no matter it is affordable or not: 1). Fed Gov gives you $8000/$6500 to buy; Gov needs the money to support their expenses 2). Interest rate is still staying low; you will have less chance to refi; 3). My math is good, so I prefer 200k@8% to 400k@4%, I will be able to get value that is closer to price; 4). About 11 banks are gone every month, and about 500 are on watch list, I don't know what is going to happen to my money; 5). It scares me when I saw my friend's house went down to $400k from $800, where he is holding it while he is able to afford a CB at $200k without hesitation........more.....TBC
 
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[quote author="graceomalley"]How can I post something good when knowing that they have made a mistake? Should I lie against my own conscience to make someone feel better by saying something I do not mean. Many of you can do that but not me.

To QW when someone buys an antique car they are not buying it for performance they are buying a piece of history. Out of the entire OC there are only 648 vintage homes in the surviving time capsule community. I don't plan to sell my home ever my home will be heirloom on to my heirs. I had my eye on it since 1989 and I had to outbid 3 other parties for it. I am the 3rd owner since 1933. One can't say for most homes that residents lived there for a lifetime. Again, different folks different strokes. I am only after trophy properties and Diane Keaton is my favorite actress so I wanted her childhood home. [/quote]

I understand and that is great for you, all i am saying is that what is great for you may not be great for someone else. PS - Diane Keaton is a great actress and looks very good for her age.[/quote]

Thanks, qwerty.

BK, I think the problem starts when you value your opinions above everyone else's. I know you are an architect and I'm sure you are a fine one, but the "flaws" you mention wouldn't necessarily bother someone else.

You might be an expert on structural integrity, for example, but different floorplans/layouts appeal to different people depending on their lifestyle.

For example, I probably wouldn't buy one of the new Woodbury homes, but I also wouldn't buy a home built in the 20s because I tend not to like older floorplans.
 
At the end of the day, it all comes down to if the buyers are going into their home purchases with their eyes wide open concerning the possible near terms risks. I've discovered that everyone is different and everyone has different motivations for buying and what they buy and where they buy. I've always been a positive person and like to think optimistically but I do make my buyers aware of the risks and tell them to only buy if they intend on owning the homes for 7+ years. I'm happy for all the Woodbury new home buyers, including Mike and Fe, and I wish that their new homes bring them a lot of happiness and good memories. One of the main reasons I got into the real estate game as a realtor was because I enjoy helping people find their dream home at the right price and guiding them to the process as smoothly as possible. <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
 
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[quote author="SoCal78"]Mike's feelings are legitimate, imo. You have to ask yourself what "constructive criticism" is. Giving somebody advice when they can do something about it is helpful. Beating them over the head when it's too late for them to change their situation is not. Intentionally waiting to criticize them when it's too late is just plain mean-spirited.[/quote]
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Off topic: We have changes to the software coming shortly. (We do not have an exact date set yet but will give you all a head's up before the switch is made.) A thanks button will be among the new features.
 
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I understand and that is great for you, all i am saying is that what is great for you may not be great for someone else. PS - Diane Keaton is a great actress and looks very good for her age.[/quote]

Thanks, qwerty.

BK, I think the problem starts when you value your opinions above everyone else's. I know you are an architect and I'm sure you are a fine one, but the "flaws" you mention wouldn't necessarily bother someone else.

You might be an expert on structural integrity, for example, but different floor plans/layouts appeal to different people depending on their lifestyle.

For example, I probably wouldn't buy one of the new Woodbury homes, but I also wouldn't buy a home built in the 20s because I tend not to like older floorplans.

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Never have I even imposed a 1920's floor plan on anyone nor asked buyers to buy in my neighborhood. Vintage homes are not for everyone. It is an acquired taste just like vintage cars. Rarely do neophytes go out and buy a vintage car or home. They are for experienced owners only.

I have not imposed my Vintage home floor plan standards nor custom home standards on cookie cutter tracts.

I advocate basic needs like a floor plan that furnish, a front door with a walkway that last 3 steps, being able to see sky out the rear yard windows or not smelling what the neighbors ate for dinner last night.

They are all just basic fundamentals. The lowest forms of housing vocabulary. A step below that is public housing which I have also designed for the government where homes have no backyards, no front yard, no front stoops, packed with HK density, and painted a similar color with a big number to the side of the buildings. They all have motor alleys for the dope dealers, Public projects are surrounded by brick walls and some even now have tall brick towers for police guards near entrance point to have expansive view of the community.

If you think my comments are too high of a standard to impose on audience like yourself then I am preaching definitely to the wrong audience not being able to grasp the most housing basics.

When you decide to buy new it is already a given that the exterior is a Frankenstein cousin. At the very least the interior should be at least marginal and functional. Isn't that one of the primary reasons for buying new? With the exception of Monterey the rest have their share of issues.

So what kinds of lifestyle like to have no front yard, no decent location for TV, no backyard, rooms that do not furnish, circulation the size of a room and proximity to a low security prison with an Irvine city address that range from 1/2 mile to 2 miles from their homes? Doesn't that contradict the safe location that one paid so much for to keep their family safe?

None of my comments have been illogical. They do rub the Achilles heels. Can you really say i have been incorrect and never supported my comments without proper reasonings or similar examples.

What I have been preaching has been only elementary entry level home 101 design. If you think my experience is only custom homes then you are mistaken. My lists of ticky tacky tract homes portfolio goes on forever. I am more than well qualified to talk about them.

BTW, you are taking way too long for a remodel. Without having proper drawings, dimensions, strategies, phasings, a set of construction document and specification, pre construction competitive sequential biddings. Your trial and error method and the lack of experience are causing you the extended expenditure and the inability to live in the home while the work is being done.
 
"Asked what his secret was for lasting so long and being so successful as the president of Yale University, Dr. James R. Angell explained: 'Grow antennae, not horns.'"

Sounds about right.

Good luck,
-IrvineRealtor
 
You're talking about tv placement, for example. Maybe some people love having their tv over their fireplace. Who knows? And maybe some people hate having backyards, land they would need to tend and landscape. Again, who knows? And who are you to say what's right and what's not?

The point is, people like Mike are saying they're happy with their new houses, and you're telling them they are making a mistake. Whatever "flaws" Mike's new house may have are obviously ok with him, so why not just let it go? You're sharing your opinions - just that, opinions - but under the guise of your professional experience so people will think your opinions have more weight than they do.

I'm familiar with your portfolio. Never once did I mention custom homes.

A little modesty goes a long way, too. Just saying.

Incidentally, are you offering to help with our remodel? Maybe I can stop by your office this week and we can discuss it?
 
[quote author="graceomalley"]If you think my comments are too high of a standard to impose on audience like yourself then I am preaching definitely to the wrong audience not being able to grasp the most housing basics.
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The IHB crowd listened and learned, BK. The Talk Irvine crowd is, well, different. But you can trust that us old timers here have you in our head with each and every open house we tour. Your contributions are so, so appreciated --- and with your insights I know that my wife and I will find the right home (even if its a only a townhome).

So I'll be moving along as well. It's clear that the echo chamber/circle jerk methodology is the preferred one with the new members and administration of Talk Irvine. I really do truly wish everyone the best with their new homes, and also the best to everyone who continues to search (including myself). I'll still be around Irvine, we are not leaving town --- the strong foundation we have built here in half a decade will ultimately trump more house elsewhere. But you can bet that whatever we buy in Irvine or Tustin Ranch WILL be BK approved. So if you ever get a new neigbhor who invites you over for soju bombs and a backyard bbq the day after he moves in, make sure to ask "are you CK"?

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CK, I like you, but...could you stick your head any further up BK's booty?
 
[quote author="ck"] I know that my wife and I will find the right home (even if its a only a townhome).

So I'll be moving along as well. It's clear that the echo chamber/circle jerk methodology is the preferred one with the new members and administration of Talk Irvine.
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Not at all, Ck... we enjoy lively discussion with various viewpoints. You are free to express yours. Everyone appreciates Bk's and the other's inputs on some level. We are here to have fun. Like Bk says - let's view it as entertainment. I personally will most likely not be buying a residence in Irvine but I do not begrudge those who do... on the contrary, I am happy for those who can buy what I can not or will not. We are all entitled to our opinions... not sure how that makes us that term you used. I'm sorry you are upset. It has been good to know you and I wish you & your nice family well in your home search. (Regarding a townhome: My notes show Bk says the smallest detached home is preferred over any attached home. Please note water, electrical, and privacy issues. See, we do pay attention.)
 
Hi All -

I really appreciate the discussion within - it's really helping me to better frame what I'm looking for and need.

Most people do NOT look at hundreds of homes before making the purchase but instead by the one that they like the most after 8-10. As a Tokyo home owner, I can say I bought new on the 5th project we looked at. After living in my current dwelling for 4 years we both see flaws but can live with them. This experience has assisted us in seeing other projects in the area differently.

For Irvine, were it not for this group, and the many opinions / expertise on this board, I may make different mistakes but in a new market. Now - with your collective wisdom (and after having spent a couple hours this weekend looking at efficient home designs in Tokyo) - I understand what I should be expecting to get AND more importantly have been able to convince my wife that this project is (currently too) expensive for what one is getting.

Purely looking at price - the Irvine homes look VERY cheap - but - understanding the inefficiencies the homes now look expensive.

I"m still going to look at the collection when I visit at the end of the month, however, I will more than likely wait for subsequent collections to be released before making the committment. I have the time to do this as I'm currently in an area I enjoy and as long as I decide in the next year or so - my children's education will not be impacted.
 
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[quote author="graceomalley"]If you think my comments are too high of a standard to impose on audience like yourself then I am preaching definitely to the wrong audience not being able to grasp the most housing basics.
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The IHB crowd listened and learned, BK. The Talk Irvine crowd is, well, different. But you can trust that us old timers here have you in our head with each and every open house we tour. Your contributions are so, so appreciated --- and with your insights I know that my wife and I will find the right home (even if its a only a townhome).

So I'll be moving along as well. It's clear that the echo chamber/circle jerk methodology is the preferred one with the new members and administration of Talk Irvine. I really do truly wish everyone the best with their new homes, and also the best to everyone who continues to search (including myself). I'll still be around Irvine, we are not leaving town --- the strong foundation we have built here in half a decade will ultimately trump more house elsewhere. But you can bet that whatever we buy in Irvine or Tustin Ranch WILL be BK approved. So if you ever get a new neigbhor who invites you over for soju bombs and a backyard bbq the day after he moves in, make sure to ask "are you CK"?

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Cmon CK - i would have expected more out of you. You are one of the ones who talked about the benefits of having opposing view points, and people start talking back/standing up to your boy BK/Grace and you decide to move on? All of a sudden its an echo chamber/circle jerk? It seems like the only echo chamber/circle jerk you enjoy are the ones where BK/Grace is the center of attention/appreciation.

In any event, ive always appreciated your posts and thought you added value here. Good luck to you and your family and i really hope you dont have to settle for a townhouse to stay in irvine. Hopefully SFR's become more affordable in Irvine and they get to a price point you are comfortable buying at.
 
Modernist are never into practicality. These images are sterile like that house hanging over the Hollywood hill cliff.

secondly, I would not be able to improve housing except to post here so the TIC troll who monitor this site can take my suggestions to improve their products for the future generations. TIC's method of operation is like the China Cultural Revolution: persecute the vocals, intellectuals and promote the naives.

Trace,
I would rather work for nothing and one word of "thank you" than to get paid $ 1 mill to work for you.
 
QW,

The most experience housing knowledge related members have all left. From Graph-Panda-CK etc. They all did not leave because of me. I am not here for my business gain. I am only here to save the lost souls in housing. So is this the persecution and tribulation period?
 
Bk, do you like or dislike the living arrangements in New York City where the best a multi-millionaire can do is a penthouse suite... there are no detached homes and it is dense. Some people love the lifestyle where they can be surrounded with culture, theater, hustle and bustle. Others hate it because it is dense and a "concrete jungle". I'm curious what your take is on it.... if it is worth sacrificing the charming house at any point for the lifestyle such as that case.
 
I am into art and culture. some of the worlds best paintings and the best museums are all along the same street. This is just me and not for everybody. Many would be content with a swap meet art on their wall or some would have paintings worth more than the HK Collection hanging on their walls.

I would take the trade-off to live in a NY City density arrangement because the 24 hr Apple Store, Christian Louboutin, and the Metropolitan Museum are all within 3 minutes walk. I even like its pocket Central Park.

I hope you are not using Irvine to represent charming house because that would be the biggest joke.

The only charming thing in Irvine are your, CK, IR2 and RC's kids.
 
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