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[quote author="traceimage"]BK, I don't have a chip on my shoulder about Irvine. You do! You had a bad experience living here, you hated your neighbors, etc and now you have issues.

Irvine is not my "beloved facade city." I just happen to live here. To be honest, I would rather live in Laguna Niguel, but Irvine is closer to the things we need to be close to.

I'm not congratulating anyone on buying in Irvine in particular. I would congratulate someone on buying a house regardless of where it was. If it's a goal for someone to buy a house and they achieve it, then that's great. I don't care what city the house is located in.

If you are making assumptions specifically about me and my husband, I'm not going to just move on. I'm going to respond. Just because your silly assumptions might apply to some people in the world doesn't make them any more valid. What, you just throw it out there and figure it'll stick to something? And then everyone will think you're a genius?

My husband is from Taiwan. I'm sure you'll have some exception/disclaimer about people from Taiwan to explain why your earlier proclamations about Asians don't apply.

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Fair enough. I appreciate your reply. So what got you interested in a reversed interracial relationship?
 
As much as I don't want CK to get priced out of Irvine... I do understand exactly what he is saying... which is why my issue isn't with the Great Room, the California Room, the motorcourt or the inefficient floor plan... it's the prices.

And BK is in denial... he hasn't been here the first 2 months and he's already catching USC in post count. It's okay to admit it... you like to snark on the Irvinites.
 
[quote author="graceomalley"][quote author=traceimage board=irvinere thread=580 post=6329 time=1266629633]BK, I don't have a chip on my shoulder about Irvine. You do! You had a bad experience living here, you hated your neighbors, etc and now you have issues.

Irvine is not my "beloved facade city." I just happen to live here. To be honest, I would rather live in Laguna Niguel, but Irvine is closer to the things we need to be close to.

I'm not congratulating anyone on buying in Irvine in particular. I would congratulate someone on buying a house regardless of where it was. If it's a goal for someone to buy a house and they achieve it, then that's great. I don't care what city the house is located in.

If you are making assumptions specifically about me and my husband, I'm not going to just move on. I'm going to respond. Just because your silly assumptions might apply to some people in the world doesn't make them any more valid. What, you just throw it out there and figure it'll stick to something? And then everyone will think you're a genius?

My husband is from Taiwan. I'm sure you'll have some exception/disclaimer about people from Taiwan to explain why your earlier proclamations about Asians don't apply.

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Fair enough. My chip is not the people but the secrets behind the city where the interest does not lie among the residents but for the goal of making $$. How much do you really know about this city and what type of secrets are they hiding from you and future residents to keep up the good image.

There are no follow up with the icicle gun suicide, victims mysteriously leap off buildings, parking lot BBQ dumping and many other unsolved cases.

I appreciate your reply. So what got you interested in a reversed interracial relationship?
 
[quote author="bones"]Love him or hate him, BK keeps things interesting. When he makes educated guesses about who you are, I think its more of an exercise. He likes to see how much he gets right. I do think he gets obnoxious sometimes, but like I said, he keeps it interesting. Look how long this thread is.

I do think there is some bitterness if you really want to live in Irvine and are priced out right now. Sometimes you can't always get what you want. But we all know how the Stones song goes.[/quote]

I would throw you a bone but you are sick of them.
 
[quote author="irvinehomeowner"]As much as I don't want CK to get priced out of Irvine... I do understand exactly what he is saying... which is why my issue isn't with the Great Room, the California Room, the motorcourt or the inefficient floor plan... it's the prices.

And BK is in denial... he hasn't been here the first 2 months and he's already catching USC in post count. It's okay to admit it... you like to snark on the Irvinites.[/quote]

C'mon IHO. Give me some credits.

Look at all the 4 digit count threads and check who are the regulars there. Then check the 3 digit count threads and see who did not participated.

Don't forget today is Friday and also toward the end of a workday where there should be zero traffic. I think you forgot what I do for a living.

Then you can draw a conclusion.
 
[quote author="graceomalley"]
[quote author="traceimage"]BK, I don't have a chip on my shoulder about Irvine. You do! You had a bad experience living here, you hated your neighbors, etc and now you have issues.

Irvine is not my "beloved facade city." I just happen to live here. To be honest, I would rather live in Laguna Niguel, but Irvine is closer to the things we need to be close to.

I'm not congratulating anyone on buying in Irvine in particular. I would congratulate someone on buying a house regardless of where it was. If it's a goal for someone to buy a house and they achieve it, then that's great. I don't care what city the house is located in.

If you are making assumptions specifically about me and my husband, I'm not going to just move on. I'm going to respond. Just because your silly assumptions might apply to some people in the world doesn't make them any more valid. What, you just throw it out there and figure it'll stick to something? And then everyone will think you're a genius?

My husband is from Taiwan. I'm sure you'll have some exception/disclaimer about people from Taiwan to explain why your earlier proclamations about Asians don't apply.

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Fair enough. I appreciate your reply. So what got you interested in a reversed interracial relationship? [/quote]

Quit picking on Trace, BK... why don't you ask your wife, why she married you...

Here are some reasons why I see some blonds (like my wife) are starting to date Asian dudes...

We are usually fairly studious, nerdy and that can be cute in an nonthreatening way, we're usually quite "safe"...

We usually have $$ from parental support/structure & resources.

We often are serious about school & career development.

We're usually secure in our masculinity, and are not out to prove it through physical strength.

We drive BMWs and don't mind, and look good carrying your LV purses.

We're usually totally buzzed after the first round of drinks, our face turns red so, usually we're not totally plastered or create a bad drunk scene.

We are naturally conservative, reserved, polite and have good manners.

And lastly, the white dudes know this... once you've been to Asia, there is no going back!
 
Now, I totally agree that we need a thanks button. I totally am agreeing with Trace here. But I'll get criticized for saying this, so I'll stop here. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
 
[quote author="traceimage"]

BK, I don't know if you're still posting in this thread, but I gotta say...I'm kind of sick of all your generalizations about Asians and whatnot. Yes, I know you are Asian. Whoop dee da. But all your pronouncements about the "Asian mentality" are stereotypes...generalizations...and assumptions. They don't apply to everyone.

Back when I first started posting at IHB, you did a little "profile" of me and you were wrong about almost everything. I didn't say anything at the time, because I was intimidated by you and all the old IHB'ers, but now I am. How arrogant of you to think you can get an accurate profile of a person from a few posts on an internet forum.

Yes, I admit it, I don't worship BK! Throw me to the hounds!
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Trace,

You are the classic example of a herd mentality. Being afraid to speak up then in IHB and choose now to speak up because you have a support system. Are you in the 3rd grade waiting for your entourage to show up? This is a very "cow--rdly" attitude and I have little respect for your action. Had you confronted me then immediately I see more integrity in you and your conviction. Look at IHO I continue to argue with him but we have mutual respect for each other.

I am true to myself since the first day I joined IHB. I do not have a home court advantage here but I continue to be myself and voice what I believe in despite of walking into the lions' den.

At least for me I am predictable. I would not trust you if I were your superior because your action follow the tide.
 
[quote author="graceomalley"]
C'mon IHO. Give me some credits.
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You have been given credit... you already know people like to hear what you think. What I'm saying is that people don't only want to hear just YOUR opinions... everyone's opinions count.

Look at all the 4 digit count threads and check who are the regulars there. Then check the 3 digit count threads and see who did not participated.

Don't forget today is Friday and also toward the end of a workday where there should be zero traffic. I think you forgot what I do for a living.
Who cares? Is this some contest to see who's thread is bigger?

I'll play your game:

Go check OCR for the longest thread and see who started it and what the subject material is.

Boo-ya.

But does it really matter? It's not just about who is posting... it's about how the subject polarizes people into participating. Of course if there is a thread criticizing people as to why they bought into Woodbury, it would gain traffic. My thread before this on the new pricing was the active one until Mike started this thread. Should we start some "Hot Threads Club" and high-five each other on our view counts?

Then you can draw a conclusion.
Uh... BFD?

By the way... it's a two way street... if no one was responding to your posts... there would be no countering from you... so the rest of us "boring", "useless" posters must be doing something here.
 
[quote author="graceomalley"]
[quote author="traceimage"]

BK, I don't know if you're still posting in this thread, but I gotta say...I'm kind of sick of all your generalizations about Asians and whatnot. Yes, I know you are Asian. Whoop dee da. But all your pronouncements about the "Asian mentality" are stereotypes...generalizations...and assumptions. They don't apply to everyone.

Back when I first started posting at IHB, you did a little "profile" of me and you were wrong about almost everything. I didn't say anything at the time, because I was intimidated by you and all the old IHB'ers, but now I am. How arrogant of you to think you can get an accurate profile of a person from a few posts on an internet forum.

Yes, I admit it, I don't worship BK! Throw me to the hounds!
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Trace,

You are the classic example of a herd mentality. Being afraid to speak up then in IHB and choose now to speak up because you have a support system. Are you in the 3rd grade waiting for your entourage to show up? This is a very "cow--rdly" attitude and I have little respect for your action. Had you confronted me then immediately I see more integrity in you and your conviction. Look at IHO I continue to argue with him but we have mutual respect for each other.

I am true to myself since the first day I joined IHB. I do not have a home court advantage here but I continue to be myself and voice what I believe in despite of walking into the lions' den.

At least for me I am predictable. I would not trust you if I were your superior because your action follow the tide.

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Think what you want, BK. It's unfortunate that you don't trust me or have respect for me, but oh well.

As I said earlier, I am trying to come out of my shell a bit more, and be more honest and direct. It has nothing to do with a "support system." In fact, I figured everyone here would bag on me for saying something less-than-admiring about you. I wasn't expecting any support from anyone. But that's the thing. I'm trying to voice my opinions regardless of support from others...or lack thereof. I'm not even going to be scared of Graphrix anymore (well, maybe a little).

I just wanted to get it off my chest that I think you make grandiose assumptions...and you also tend to be condescending in your treatment of others. Of course, maybe it just comes across that way online. I don't think you can really judge a person without meeting them in person or at least talking to them.

To answer your earlier question about interracial relationships...well, I don't really have an answer. I wasn't necessarily "interested" in finding one, like I wasn't seeking out an Asian guy...it just happened. It's not reversed interracial, though...it's interracial regardless of which party happens to be white.
 
[quote author="ck"]
[quote author="traceimage"]

I honestly think that anyone who gives you a hard time about it has their own issues to deal with. That, or they are jealous of your money. That's understandable...but even those of us who are regular middle class and upper middle class people still have it better than, say, 95% of the people on earth, so we should be happy about that.

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No, trace. I do not have issues and I am not jealous of Mike or anyone else with an $800k down payment, good for them. Trace, I have NO desire to have a lot of money --- I love my middle class lifestyle. A wise man once said "mo money, mo problems". My *issue* is that this city which was formerly a safe haven for upper middle class people is now being bid up to ridiculous levels, therefore leaving myself and presumably you unable to buy a reasonable home consistent with our hard work. Maybe you are ok with that, I don't feel like I should have to settle.

I know what I want out of life, and its actually quite simple --- about 2,000 sq ft, and a little backyard to entertain my middle class friends, and a driveway to wash my Honda's. I want to leave work by 5pm most days (you are making me late). And if damn near $200k/yr won't buy that in Irvine, then its time to move along. But no harm or foul. Like I said earlier --- Big Mike does not sound like my kind of neighbor, and the rest of the 2010 buyers probably are not, either. So in reality, I have realized that what I wanted all along I really don't want anymore...

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Hey CK. I totally get what you're saying. I kind of feel that way, too. Like it's unfair, in a way, that people who make good money can't afford a great house in Irvine. Yeah, I get that.

I believe you when you say you're not jealous.

What makes you say that Mike is not the kind of neighbor you'd want to have? Maybe I should go back and reread some of his posts. Did he say anything obnoxious?
 
[quote author="ajw522"]Now, I totally agree that we need a thanks button. I totally am agreeing with Trace here. But I'll get criticized for saying this, so I'll stop here. <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->[/quote]

Thank you ajw.

Although by my thanking you, BK will think you are part of my "support system" and that we are herdmates. Moooooo.
 
[quote author="traceimage"]
[quote author="graceomalley"]

Trace,

You are the classic example of a herd mentality. Being afraid to speak up then in IHB and choose now to speak up because you have a support system. Are you in the 3rd grade waiting for your entourage to show up? This is a very "cow--rdly" attitude and I have little respect for your action. Had you confronted me then immediately I see more integrity in you and your conviction. Look at IHO I continue to argue with him but we have mutual respect for each other.

I am true to myself since the first day I joined IHB. I do not have a home court advantage here but I continue to be myself and voice what I believe in despite of walking into the lions' den.

At least for me I am predictable. I would not trust you if I were your superior because your action follow the tide.

[/quote]

Think what you want, BK. It's unfortunate that you don't trust me or have respect for me, but oh well.

As I said earlier, I am trying to come out of my shell a bit more, and be more honest and direct. It has nothing to do with a "support system." In fact, I figured everyone here would bag on me for saying something less-than-admiring about you. I wasn't expecting any support from anyone. But that's the thing. I'm trying to voice my opinions regardless of support from others...or lack thereof. I'm not even going to be scared of Graphrix anymore (well, maybe a little).

I just wanted to get it off my chest that I think you make grandiose assumptions...and you also tend to be condescending in your treatment of others. Of course, maybe it just comes across that way online. I don't think you can really judge a person without meeting them in person or at least talking to them.

To answer your earlier question about interracial relationships...well, I don't really have an answer. I wasn't necessarily "interested" in finding one, like I wasn't seeking out an Asian guy...it just happened. It's not reversed interracial, though...it's interracial regardless of which party happens to be white.

[/quote]

Glad to see you found the courage to be yourself. You will be a lot happier to let it all out.
 
[quote author="traceimage"]
What makes you say that Mike is not the kind of neighbor you'd want to have? Maybe I should go back and reread some of his posts. Did he say anything obnoxious?[/quote]

I've bolded a couple nuggets made me realize this guy and I would probably not vibe. So he is a single income earner in his early 30's and has saved $800k on his own for a house payment? Apparentely this dude does not realize that is not a normal accomplishment --- as he intimates that anyone who cannot accomplish that is a "whiner" and that the "other buyers should share their experiences with those who can't buy now". Presumably they can school all of us on how to save $800k by the time we are 30?


[quote author="mikeirvine"]
I'm a single income family and my wife is a home maker.
I make good money and have enough money to put all cash.
I'm in my early 30s...

With upgrades the house will cost around 1 million.


I plan to put 80% down...

I have other investments, stocks and saving after the down payment and I spend at least 20k on travel outside US every year with my family and I have at least 3 expensive hobbies. Does it concern anyone, no, accept me and my family. Am I happy, Yes. I think every day is a bonus in my life. .... and my goal is to buy my home before 35.

Can I afford in WB, I think so and maybe not. But for sure I'm not a whiner and not my goal to be one.

Maybe more buyers should share why they bought to those that can't buy now. For my case, Money is not the problem to buy a home in WB Irvine and I want to be here with the rich FCB <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P --> and happy home owners regardless of race, religion and sex :-[

Mike
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But this just really makes feel stronger about my decision that it is time for my simple family and Irvine to part ways. I mean, really --- what's Mike's big prize for his hard earned $800k down payment? A $1M house on the corner of two busy main roads (and soon to be a lot busier, as soon as the GP opens) --- right over the wall from low-income housing? Am I jealous? Not so much. Honestly, Trace --- I would not pay $600k for Sonoma. And that's the honest truth. Not in that location. But as long as there are Mike's around to bid up Irvine prices, there is not room for my family here. But that's ok, because the more I read here the more I realize we would probably rather be somewhere else.

Have a great weekend!
 
Hey AJ,

You must be new at this moderator role. Rule #1 is never take side even you totally agree with one. You keep it to yourself quietly.

This is not fair. When you choose to be a moderator then you have to be a politician and your action is highly vulnerable and subject to criticism for the smallest thing. Learn from Mr. Dan Young to be the best Politician.

Both Socal and Irvine Realtor are good moderators because their emotion is not detectable.

Because CK wanted to express his opinions that will conflict with his moderator role so He resigned from his duty. He did it correctly and appropriately.

Learn from your peers if you want to be successful as a moderator.

Me on the other hand I have no decorum so I can choose to pick on who ever I want but you can't as a moderator.
 
[quote author="graceomalley"]
CK,

Few really come to a realization that the compromises you have to make to live in Irvine come out from your family's expense.

You are very wise my friend.[/quote]

Thank you, BK. But one is only as wise as their teacher! <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->
 
Mike,

You should thank my wife's family. If weren't for her family you would not be in your business having $800k in the bank.
Do you have any idea of what I am talking about?
Care to find out?
 
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