Things not to say to propective or current re clients

<p>Good morning </p>

<p>First of all I do apoligize to awgee for a somewhat personal attack. </p>

<p>I did take your comments,"Are there any realtors reading this? Are you getting it? Stop with the scare tactics." and "you aren't neccessary anymore, so if you want to keep selling real estate, you had better start adding some value to the situation " as a bit hostile and felt they needed to be challenged from the point that not all in the business fit that mold.</p>

<p> "I have met some of the folks who blog here and their level of intelligence and perception is almost scary." That is one of the reasons that I enjoy this forum. It is clear that the knowledge, wisdom, and communicative skills are far above average here. It may be part of the reason that I do get frustrated with continual re agent bashing. I expect the discourse to be at a higher level. </p>

<p>Awgee- I would also like to explain what I think may have been miscommunicated by me as far as "scare tactics" in an earlier post I made about law suits and FSBOs. Most of my re career was in a management position with public builders. I worked 50-70 hour work weeks. I also managed my portfolio of investment properties. I would usually represent myself as a buyer. However, I used an agent when I sold a property for the following 3 reasons: </p>

<p>1.I did not have the time or flexibility to adequatly market, show, negotiate, handle the paperwork, and meet buyers for inspections due to my corporate work schedule. </p>

<p>2.I did not have Errors and Omissions insurance and I wanted the transactions to be covered under a brokerage that held E&O to protect me as a seller. </p>

<p>3.If I were to go to court I would be held to a "higher level of responsibility" due to my RE Broker license. </p>

<p>In my 20 plus years in the biz as well as owning 25+ properties I have seen numerous lawsuits, many of which were invalid, but they still cost the defendant money, time and mental anguish. My goal is to mitigate the possibility as much as I can for myself as well as clients. The point here is that even as a broker I often used an agent for sales of my property and felt it was informational to bring these areas up. I do not offer advice that I don't use myself. </p>

<p>Graphrix You did warn me and I do appreciate it. I enjoy your statistical information and balanced input. You are certainly an example of one who makes a point without attacking the individual or even agents as a group. In my experience the lenders were always the most challenging part of the business and have become worse in the last 5 years with the toxic loans as well as the lack of honesty and integrity from the top down in both the chop shops and the big publics. </p>

<p>Nude Thanks for the words. </p>

<p>ISR Many people use the phrase "drink the kool aid" about the pro real estate types. It would be sad to see this blog full of "kool aid" drinkers on the other side. I will attempt to challenge the statements which I disagree with. </p>

<p>Now show me some love while I eat my Cheerios!!!!!! Have a great day!</p>
 
<p><em>"as a bit hostile and felt they needed to be challenged from the point that not all in the business fit that mold."</em></p>

<p>It is hostile, but if you read all the posters comments, you may find the hostility to be well deserved. There is an appropriate place for hostility. If the hostility in my posts is undeserved, please point out anything I have written which is unfactual, inaccurate, or unfair.</p>

<p><em>"It may be part of the reason that I do get frustrated with continual re agent bashing. I expect the discourse to be at a higher level. "</em></p>

<p>Yes, there is continual re bashing. Why do you think that might be? Especially considering that you also find the posters in here intelligent. You think it is just some band wagon jumping? Do you really think they are intelligent about so many matters relating to real estate, but are fallacious in their assesment of realtors? Again, it isn't just a few agents who are unethical. It is the majority in my opinion. Do you disagree with that assesment? NIR posted "Statistics show only 7% of all realtors are trusted". No one is saying that there aren't some honest agents. That would be ridiculous. But to say not to point out a severe lack of ethics in a particular occupation because there are a few ethical in that occupation is just as ridiculous. To point out the truth is not discoursing at a lower level. It is pointing out the truth.</p>

<p>Hey, if I am completely off base, then forget it. But, maybe realtors need to police their own. And maybe they need to stop making excuses. And maybe any realtors out there reading this can realize that the talking points they are given to scare us or dissuade us from our plans, are actually just lowering their own credibility and causing us to cross them off our list as a "professional" from whom we may later seek to engage.</p>

<p>It may be very threatening to read, "We have the internet and you may not be neccessary anymore." Yes, I meant it to be harsh. But, reality is harsh. And alot harsher than my words.</p>
 
Arrgh, ye rental pirates. Be not warful towards each other and grumpy there be no booty to loot fer awhile. Recall thems pirates of the carribean that were stuck in the island hideout together ... do not turn on the other while hol'd up watin' out the storm...
 
<p>Last time I checked, this was a bear tilted blog.....am I wrong ? </p>

<p>Xsocal, I'm sure we all hope to become bulls someday.... but it just isn't panning out that way right now. I find the level of discourse satisfactory...perhaps you are so upset because you don't.</p>

<p>How were those Cheerios ?</p>
 
<p>Let's face it, Awgee is being cantankerous just because he wants to see the cats again.</p>

<p><img alt="" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/149577823_a00b19286c.jpg?v=0" /></p>
 
<p>Dang, I love those cats. Thanks Eva.</p>

<p>new addition to the feline category.... <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjlRFiO5_yc">YouTube - Cat Fight</a></p>
 
Uh... Yes, yes I did. I would scan it and post it, but I spit out the red wine I was drinking on it when I read that. I can't believe I wasted good wine for that.





Note to self: Do not drink <em>anything</em> while reading the RE section.
 
"Also our agent told us the bank agent mentioned there were already two good offers in for it - one full price so we shouldn't low-ball it if we really wanted it."
 
<p>The worst is when a close family member or close friend becomes a real estate agent. Its like they joined an MLM and can only spout out the marketing pitches they are taught. </p>

<p>Not to revert to the previous discussion between awgee and xsocal but I think the problem is that you have 2 major groups of RE agents. Those who joined blindly in the last 3 years and those that have been around for 10+ years. The ones who joined 10+ are usually more intelligent and smart enough to know that RE goes up and down and generally are looking to help you through the transaction. For example, my inlaws live nears Peters Canyon and there is a husband and wife RE team that has been there for as long as my inlaws can remember. They serve as community experts and gladly help everyone in the community with everything to do with RE. Just the other day, my inlaws wanted a recommendation for someone to rebuild their fence and even though they didn't buy from this RE husband and wife, they felt free to call them and they helped out a ton. They were able to recommend some great guys and told my inlaws which neighbors had used them. Basically, they have become the local experts and gladly help people in the neighborhood. </p>

<p>By the way, making commission on a transaction doesn't mean that people only care about the check. That would basically mean all salespeople are greedy and don't care about their customers which we all know is not true.</p>
 
<p>From a Huntington Beach ocean front property: </p>

<p>"But we are passing along the savings of “cutting out the middle man” directly to you. Buy now while prices are down – other homes had been on sale for as much as $4,200,000 last year".</p>
 
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