Minimorty said:[
If Obama stops the war overseas, our enemies will only grow stronger. They will train their troops. They will make devastating weapons. And they will bring the war to our soil. You dont get it, do you? There are people and organizations out there whose sole purpose is to see the demise of the United States. They will not rest until they have succeeded.
Say whatever you want about Bush. One thing is undeniable. Since 9/11, he has kept us safe.
trrenter said:BLT,
The country you want the US to become sounds like Canada why not just move there?
They have the Obama Care already and they have the same mentality as you about war.
gypsyuma said:Minimorty said:[
If Obama stops the war overseas, our enemies will only grow stronger. They will train their troops. They will make devastating weapons. And they will bring the war to our soil. You dont get it, do you? There are people and organizations out there whose sole purpose is to see the demise of the United States. They will not rest until they have succeeded.
Say whatever you want about Bush. One thing is undeniable. Since 9/11, he has kept us safe.
WOW... spoken like a true Bush drone.
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." ALBERT EINSTEIN
trrenter said:Sometimes dropping bombs is a necessary evil.
green_cactus said:trrenter said:Sometimes dropping bombs is a necessary evil.
Does that then also justify any threatened nation/group to launch an attack against its perceived aggressors? This only works when you are on the delivering end of that kind of logic ...
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Nude said:green_cactus said:trrenter said:Sometimes dropping bombs is a necessary evil.
Does that then also justify any threatened nation/group to launch an attack against its perceived aggressors? This only works when you are on the delivering end of that kind of logic ...
History, all of it, is filled with people killing other people. It resolves any conflict in an absolute and final manner... eventually one side surrenders. In a world ruled by law and order, such resolution isn't needed. When someone ignores the law and disrupts the order, that resolution is usually the only one that works. You focus only on our actions, willfully ignoring the action that provoked our own.
bltserv said:Nude said:green_cactus said:trrenter said:Sometimes dropping bombs is a necessary evil.
Does that then also justify any threatened nation/group to launch an attack against its perceived aggressors? This only works when you are on the delivering end of that kind of logic ...
History, all of it, is filled with people killing other people. It resolves any conflict in an absolute and final manner... eventually one side surrenders. In a world ruled by law and order, such resolution isn't needed. When someone ignores the law and disrupts the order, that resolution is usually the only one that works. You focus only on our actions, willfully ignoring the action that provoked our own.
Who`s law ? The United States of America was not voted as owner of this Planet last time I checked.
With your thought process we will make war against the Muslim world until they become Christians or Jews.
Are Soverign Countries allowed to be secure in their borders and laws ?
Should every Muslim Country that has any Al-Qaeda cells be subject to our attack ?
Should the Taliban not be allowed to practice their extreme form of Islam ? As strange as it is.
Last time I checked the Taliban never attacked us. Their crime was to allow Al-Qaeda to exist and be recognized in their borders.
And 8 years later. We are still fighting the Taliban. And not doing too well I might add. We cant kill the Civilians any more.
That eliminates almost all Air Support in the Urban areas.
green_cactus said:trrenter said:Sometimes dropping bombs is a necessary evil.
Does that then also justify any threatened nation/group to launch an attack against its perceived aggressors? This only works when you are on the delivering end of that kind of logic ...
bltserv said:Very Gratefull.
But should we let the tragedy of 9/11 ruin our common sense and kill more and more for decades to come ?
I see our leaders repeating the errors of our past.
Fighting a prolonged war in a far away land without the support of the local population.
An ill defined enemy that blends in with the civilians. Lack of support at home.
You cant just keep throwing blood and treasure at the problem.
History is filled with examples of this strategy failing. Especially in Afghanistan.
Minimorty said:And you have no problem with that? You have no problem with the Taliban providing a safe place to Al Qaida to plot the next 9/11? F that! I dont care who is in charge there. If the US has credible evidence that organizations are planning on doing harm to the US on US soil, I say we go in and attack them. Civilian casualties, while unfortunate, are a part of war.
green_cactus said:Minimorty said:And you have no problem with that? You have no problem with the Taliban providing a safe place to Al Qaida to plot the next 9/11? F that! I dont care who is in charge there. If the US has credible evidence that organizations are planning on doing harm to the US on US soil, I say we go in and attack them. Civilian casualties, while unfortunate, are a part of war.
Let's say the US is harboring a Cuban dissident that has been identified as the mastermind in a plot to bring down an airplane (killing 73 people) and the bombings of several hotels. Does your argument still hold that Cuba would be entitled to engage this target militarily without concern for civilian casualties??? You may want to look up who Luis Posada Carriles is.
green_cactus said:Minimorty said:And you have no problem with that? You have no problem with the Taliban providing a safe place to Al Qaida to plot the next 9/11? F that! I dont care who is in charge there. If the US has credible evidence that organizations are planning on doing harm to the US on US soil, I say we go in and attack them. Civilian casualties, while unfortunate, are a part of war.
Let's say the US is harboring a Cuban dissident that has been identified as the mastermind in a plot to bring down an airplane (killing 73 people) and the bombings of several hotels. Does your argument still hold that Cuba would be entitled to engage this target militarily without concern for civilian casualties??? You may want to look up who Luis Posada Carriles is.