New Homes in Woodbury East and Woodbury

[quote author="dethman" date=1253889297][quote author="bkshopr" date=1253875357]<a href="http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:_ADp8ojZ-B4J:www.cement.org/basics/concretebasics_faqs.asp+concrete+curing+period&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us">Concrete</a> takes 28 days to cure to full strenth and not recommended for forming in hot weather.</blockquote>


according to your link: "Concrete hardens and gains strength as it hydrates. The hydration process continues over a long period of time. It happens rapidly at first and slows down as time goes by. To measure the ultimate strength of concrete would require a wait of several years. This would be impractical, so a time period of 28 days was selected by specification writing authorities as the age that all concrete should be tested. "



doesn't sound like concrete is "full strength" at 28 days, it was just an arbitrary time period to measure concrete strength. i know nothing about concrete. just reading what you linked.</blockquote>


Thanks you the clarification. Not full strength but established enough for construction abuse in 28 days. Forced hydration due to hot climate not only weaken the property of concrete strength but to immediately exert tension to encased anchor bolts may compromise the concrete slab. In the past production homes encountered many foundation and settlement issues. In todays economy out of work lawyers love this type of potential foundation problem.
 
[quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1253944157][quote author="PANDA" date=1253942831][quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1253942537]Did you see any slab forms that looked there was a 3-car garage... even a tandem one?</blockquote>


IHO, i thought you are buying in Laguna Crossing? What are doing looking in Woodbury? :) The largest homes there will be 2700 square feet. Do homes that size actually come in 3-car garage?</blockquote>
Considering we won't be neighbors in LG until 2013/2014... this would be the interim residence... hehe.



Actually, there are some 3WCGs in Irvine at about 2000sft... but that was when lots weren't so postage sized. You never know... some builder who has been reading this forum and wants an IHO-endorsed floorplan might try to fit a tandem in for me.</blockquote>


Dude, are you lowering your standard to tandem from a 3CWG wish?
 
RC is right. They had this stuff up QUICK. I went for walks early in the morn and noticed the exact same thing. It's a little mind boggling. I'm hoping they don't do much more until 28 days has passed, too. Tomorrow is set to be another scorcher!



Thanks for sharing the photos, <strong>RC</strong>!
 
More closer pictures... this was taken Saturday morning...



Looks like a duplex to me... 2 bed rooms no more than three...

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From the side...

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Another angle...

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Sorry IHO, only 2CG - Duplex - Attached 2 stories - again at most 3 bedrooms...

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I see this Skyline every time I walk down Twin Gables... the first thing that comes to mind is... what exotic car must you have in the garage to kick the brand new Skyline to the curb...

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maybe the garage is full of junk...

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Same with thw M6 owner...

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I went next through these gates... heck no trespassing signs! This is Mapleton, south of Regal...

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You can see the old Andrucela(SP) Models... oh wait what is the new construction to the right!!!

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A closer look,,, maybe attached again...? Yeah.. then I was gently told to leave by the workers, shortly afterward, so no close up...

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Lastly this is the house for sale... how far can you park your Benz from the curb in WB?

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Asian drivers can't even drive with the flow of traffic how do you expect them to park?



Driving a top brand car does not make one a good driver.



Holding a top brand racket does not make one a good player.



Attending a top school does not make one a good student.



All would need practice and hard work. Driving apparently will require a lifetime to master.
 
Let's be fair, if they parked closer to that curb, they would have to get out in the shrubbery and trees. I actually think that might be a no parking area as most of the newer cul-de-sacs in Irvine are.
 
[quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1254147091]Let's be fair, if they parked closer to that curb, they would have to get out in the shrubbery and trees. I actually think that might be a no parking area as most of the newer cul-de-sacs in Irvine are.</blockquote>


If the Asian driver drives on the American side of the road then the driver could exit on the side of the pavement and not shrubbery.



BTW no parking on culdesac is because of the fire truck turning radius. In order to allow parked cars then the developer has to give up more land to create a culdesac with a larger diameter.
 
I just drove past this morning and they're about done with this home. I swear, every day they get a lot of it done and I'm guessing the drywall will be up by Monday!
 
not sure if these are the ones that you guys are seeing being built, but i saw this on the lennar website



<a href="http://www.lennar.com/New-Homes/California/Orange-County/La-Casella">http://www.lennar.com/New-Homes/California/Orange-County/La-Casella</a>



i guess they are doing a pre-sale for these townhomes in woodbury
 
[quote author="PANDA" date=1255044793]Anyone know who the builders are for the Single Family Homes?</blockquote>
Didn't another poster mention on the other thread that it was Brookfield and the tract was called Montecito?
 
secretly, we can all drive like top f1 racers. this comes from our secret kung fu training, as all of us are also masters of kung fu



we all drive like mr. magoo because we just like to piss of the round eye.





[quote author="bkshopr" date=1254102046]Asian drivers can't even drive with the flow of traffic how do you expect them to park?



Driving a top brand car does not make one a good driver.



Holding a top brand racket does not make one a good player.



Attending a top school does not make one a good student.



All would need practice and hard work. Driving apparently will require a lifetime to master.</blockquote>
 
[quote author="sad.machine" date=1255057022]secretly, we can all drive like top f1 racers. this comes from our secret kung fu training, as all of us are also masters of kung fu



we all drive like mr. magoo because we just like to piss of the round eye.





[quote author="bkshopr" date=1254102046]Asian drivers can't even drive with the flow of traffic how do you expect them to park?



Driving a top brand car does not make one a good driver.



Holding a top brand racket does not make one a good player.



Attending a top school does not make one a good student.



All would need practice and hard work. Driving apparently will require a lifetime to master.</blockquote></blockquote>


Now I see. The Asian drivers are just practicing tai chi while driving.
 
[quote author="hehegrl" date=1255043974]not sure if these are the ones that you guys are seeing being built, but i saw this on the lennar website



<a href="http://www.lennar.com/New-Homes/California/Orange-County/La-Casella">http://www.lennar.com/New-Homes/California/Orange-County/La-Casella</a>



i guess they are doing a pre-sale for these townhomes in woodbury</blockquote>


I don't think it's them. The ones that are currently being build look like single family units that don't share any walls.



The construction is moving along and I think they're ready to start putting up some Sheetrock!
 
From the website,



Plan 2

From $640,000

2,090 Square Feet ($306/sq ft)

3 Bedrooms

3.5 Bathrooms



Plan 3

From $704,000

2,643 Square Feet ($266/sq ft)

4 Bedrooms

4 Bathrooms



That's pretty attractive pricing for WB per sq ft. I wonder what they're throwing into the base models in terms of upgrades like they were before? I would think barebones based on this new bubble they're riding. How does the pricing compare to the last release of WB East? If it's anything like that, I wouldn't be surprised if people are already camped outside the construction site.



(yay my first post, just wanted to say hi. Found the site a couple months ago, great resource, just wish I found out about it sooner!)
 
[quote author="pleasantville0001" date=1255487304]From the website,



Plan 2

From $640,000

2,090 Square Feet ($306/sq ft)

3 Bedrooms

3.5 Bathrooms



Plan 3

From $704,000

2,643 Square Feet ($266/sq ft)

4 Bedrooms

4 Bathrooms



That's pretty attractive pricing for WB per sq ft. I wonder what they're throwing into the base models in terms of upgrades like they were before? I would think barebones based on this new bubble they're riding. How does the pricing compare to the last release of WB East? If it's anything like that, I wouldn't be surprised if people are already camped outside the construction site.



(yay my first post, just wanted to say hi. Found the site a couple months ago, great resource, just wish I found out about it sooner!)</blockquote>


Thank you Pleasantville,



Now, I am really curious what the Brookfield Montecito - Woodbury homes will sell at? Assuming these SFRs sell at $300/sq ft, it would put these 2643 sq ft homes at $799,900, killing the comps for Villa Rosa, Rosemoor, and Portisol. I want to guess that the largest units (2700 sq/ft) homes will sell at in the low $800s. IHO... would you buy at these prices?



I hope that these new prices will bring down all the new construction homes in Portola Springs. Seriously.. all the homes in PS would be sold out by now if they slashed prices 10-15%.



The most important thing is the price.
 
[quote author="PANDA" date=1255494790]The most important thing is [strike]the price.[/strike]</blockquote>


The most important thing is <strong>the package</strong>.
 
[quote author="IrvineRealtor" date=1255499827][quote author="PANDA" date=1255494790]The most important thing is [strike]the price.[/strike]</blockquote>


The most important thing is <strong>the package</strong>.</blockquote>


Can't argue with Deuce. "Package" it is :)
 
[quote author="pleasantville0001" date=1255487304]From the website,



Plan 2

From $640,000

2,090 Square Feet ($306/sq ft)

3 Bedrooms

3.5 Bathrooms



Plan 3

From $704,000

2,643 Square Feet ($266/sq ft)

4 Bedrooms

4 Bathrooms



That's pretty attractive pricing for WB per sq ft. I wonder what they're throwing into the base models in terms of upgrades like they were before? I would think barebones based on this new bubble they're riding. How does the pricing compare to the last release of WB East? If it's anything like that, I wouldn't be surprised if people are already camped outside the construction site.



(yay my first post, just wanted to say hi. Found the site a couple months ago, great resource, just wish I found out about it sooner!)</blockquote>


So according to the <a href="http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/forums/viewthread/24/">New Home Info/Pricing Master Thread back in 2006 & 2007</a>---here was the old pricing: (I am starting to really enjoy this bubble deflation) :)

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<em>Village: Woodbury



Tract: La Casella (?? attached townhomes) in the City of Irvine



Builder: Lennar



Schools: Irvine School District (IUSD): Northwood Elementary/El Camino Real Elementary, Sierra Vista Middle, Irvine High



Tax Rate: The anticipated total effective tax rate is approximately 1.6%, which is inclusive of all Community Facilities District (CFD) rates.



HOA Dues: $135 for Master Association and $265 for Sub Association



Plans:



Residence 1 - 3bd/3.5ba - 1514 sq. ft.



Residence 2 - 3bd/3ba - 2045 sq. ft.



Residence 3 - 4bd/4ba - 2464 to 2498 sq. ft.



<u>PRICING</u>



Phase 1 (9/30/2006)



Residence 1 - From $735,000



Residence 2 - From $835,000



Residence 3 - From $890,000



Phase ? (Picked up 1/15/2007)



Residence 1 - Temp Sold Out (~$690,000)



Residence 2 - From $775,000



Residence 3 - Temp Sold Out (~$840,000)

Phase 3 (Early May 2007)



Residence 1 - $746,000 (up $61,000)



Residence 2 - $812,000 (up $37,000)



Residence 3 - $877,000 (up $40,000)



Phase ? (6/17/2007)



Residence 1 - $710,000



Residence 2 - $785,000



Residence 3 - $845,000</em>
 
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