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Liar Loan
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The LA riots were a rude awakening for Korean-Americans
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/28/us/la-riots-korean-americans/index.html
I understand , many people in OC , " escaped " Los Angeles from what it was , and justifiably so
But just as converts to a religion are sometimes more fanatical than those who just live in it and are used to it, same dynamic also affects people's attitudes towards guns and crime
the facts on the ground changing cannot change those attitudes -- the fact that crime is down across the board since the peak in early 90s , be it NYC or LA.
but you have to go back to the 92 riots to justify owning a semi automatic assault rifle , that's is saying a lot
and no, you don't get to twist the argument by pooling all " guns " together .
A self defense handgun and a semi-auto assault rifle are NOT the same thing . and that's what the NRA is defending in this day and age (not the past) - the right to anonymously own and stockpile weapons of mass murder
But just as converts to a religion are sometimes more fanatical than those who just live in it and are used to it, same dynamic also affects people's attitudes towards guns and crime
the facts on the ground changing cannot change those attitudes -- the fact that crime is down across the board since the peak in early 90s , be it NYC or LA.
but you have to go back to the 92 riots to justify owning a semi automatic assault rifle , that's is saying a lot
and no, you don't get to twist the argument by pooling all " guns " together .
A self defense handgun and a semi-auto assault rifle are NOT the same thing . and that's what the NRA is defending in this day and age (not the past) - the right to anonymously own and stockpile weapons of mass murder
irvinehomeowner
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morekaos said:
Guns are for wimps.
I'm a Karate man!!!
Liar Loan
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fortune11 said:
There have been many breakdowns in order since then - Katrina, Ferguson, Baltimore riots, etc. - but since that one occurred a short distance away it's a good reminder that even here in Orange County things can fall apart quickly when the right conditions take hold. All it would take is a major earthquake or tsunami, and a shortage of food/water, to set people off.
morekaos
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Liar Loan said:
Yes and this is why hand guns for self defense are perfectly fine. we are talking about the tiny minority of gun owners here who want to make everyone else pay for their almost porn-like fetish to own a stockpile of AR-15s .
if one really thinks they need a bunch of assault rifles to defend themselves when the Armageddon comes (a bunch of people from santa ana coming with pitchforks for your gated Irvine community) , a safer and more efficient option may be to move to the open west where you can build your own bunker on the cheap.
irvinehomeowner
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morekaos said:
I don't do swords either.
Karate men bleed on the inside!
momopi
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Firearms are long-lasting hardware that doesn't have an expiration date, and few owners actually put >10,000 rounds down the barrel to wear it out. So it's actually not an easy business with non-expiring products and large resale market. The move to popularize AR-15's as MSR (modern sporting rifle) is really self-interest on the manufacturer's part to generate new sales. Consider old school hunters in rural areas with bolt action hunting rifle or scoped lever action 30-30 in the closet. They take the rifle out during hunting season, shoot a couple rounds to zero in the scope, bag a deer then wipe the rifle clean and store in closet. It's very difficult for a gun store to stay in business when your customers might come in and buy 1 box of ammo every couple years.
Regardless of the AR platform's firing rate or magazine capacity, the actual number of deaths from rifles/carbines each year is small. According to FBI homicide data, statistically you're more likely to be killed by hammer/club or fist than rifle. But someone being punched to death doesn't get the same level of coverage as a mass shooting spree. Then we get a flood of click bait articles claiming 3% of Americans own half of the guns, based on survey data collected by cold calls. Um, if a stranger called you to ask if you owned firearms, how many and what kind, what percent of people will answer honestly these days? If you trust that kind of data and claim "tiny minority of gun owners...blah blah blah", that's wishful thinking.
If you live in CA you should have the realization (political reality) that they'll make purchase and ownership of semi-auto center-fire rifles more and more restrictive. First they'll go after "assault rifle", then "featureless", and after that prolly semi auto rim fire too. From long-term planning perspective I would suggest a small mix of semi auto, manual action, and break-open (O/U) models plus reloading gear. I've consolidated to fewer calibers but this is a personal choice. Being armed means that when SHTF and you're bugging in, people who want your supplies are more likely to send grandma with baby to beg instead of group of thugs coming to you to impose strong-arm robbery.
To generalize, people's behaviors are moderated by religious morality (good vs evil), secular ethnics (right vs wrong), and fear of punishment (reward vs punishment). Local law enforcement simply does not have the capability to handle mass disruptions on scale of LA Riot or Katrina, nor does FEMA have the resources to respond quickly and effectively to Katrina sized disruptions. When the fear of punishment is removed, those who are governed by morality or ethics will behave reasonably, versus those who only feared punishment will loot, pillage, rape, and murder. Guns and ammo might protect you from harm but you can't eat them when you're hungry. If you neglected to stockpile necessities like food, water, medicine, etc., you might find yourself in terrible conditions like the Louisiana Super-dome begging for aid. Worse, we have a lot more people here in LA region and most of our water depends on functioning aqueduct and deep wells.
Just as it's your responsibility to maintain the means to protect yourself & family, we also have a civic duty to be prepared and not be another liability to FEMA begging for handout. Life's challenges are like the 1980s game of "frogger" where all vehicles on the road are aiming for you -- if you think things can't get worse you're probably wrong. Staying in place won't save you -- when the timer on bottom of the screen runs out, a bus with your name on it will come and turn you into roadkill. So be prepared and be quick on your frog legs.
Regardless of the AR platform's firing rate or magazine capacity, the actual number of deaths from rifles/carbines each year is small. According to FBI homicide data, statistically you're more likely to be killed by hammer/club or fist than rifle. But someone being punched to death doesn't get the same level of coverage as a mass shooting spree. Then we get a flood of click bait articles claiming 3% of Americans own half of the guns, based on survey data collected by cold calls. Um, if a stranger called you to ask if you owned firearms, how many and what kind, what percent of people will answer honestly these days? If you trust that kind of data and claim "tiny minority of gun owners...blah blah blah", that's wishful thinking.
If you live in CA you should have the realization (political reality) that they'll make purchase and ownership of semi-auto center-fire rifles more and more restrictive. First they'll go after "assault rifle", then "featureless", and after that prolly semi auto rim fire too. From long-term planning perspective I would suggest a small mix of semi auto, manual action, and break-open (O/U) models plus reloading gear. I've consolidated to fewer calibers but this is a personal choice. Being armed means that when SHTF and you're bugging in, people who want your supplies are more likely to send grandma with baby to beg instead of group of thugs coming to you to impose strong-arm robbery.
To generalize, people's behaviors are moderated by religious morality (good vs evil), secular ethnics (right vs wrong), and fear of punishment (reward vs punishment). Local law enforcement simply does not have the capability to handle mass disruptions on scale of LA Riot or Katrina, nor does FEMA have the resources to respond quickly and effectively to Katrina sized disruptions. When the fear of punishment is removed, those who are governed by morality or ethics will behave reasonably, versus those who only feared punishment will loot, pillage, rape, and murder. Guns and ammo might protect you from harm but you can't eat them when you're hungry. If you neglected to stockpile necessities like food, water, medicine, etc., you might find yourself in terrible conditions like the Louisiana Super-dome begging for aid. Worse, we have a lot more people here in LA region and most of our water depends on functioning aqueduct and deep wells.
Just as it's your responsibility to maintain the means to protect yourself & family, we also have a civic duty to be prepared and not be another liability to FEMA begging for handout. Life's challenges are like the 1980s game of "frogger" where all vehicles on the road are aiming for you -- if you think things can't get worse you're probably wrong. Staying in place won't save you -- when the timer on bottom of the screen runs out, a bus with your name on it will come and turn you into roadkill. So be prepared and be quick on your frog legs.
?I?ve got another nut job here,? according to the article below.
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-john-kelly-replacement-white-house-2018-1
My comment: Allegedly talking about his own cabinet member. His comment doesn?t surprise me. The bar is really low.
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-john-kelly-replacement-white-house-2018-1
My comment: Allegedly talking about his own cabinet member. His comment doesn?t surprise me. The bar is really low.
morekaos
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LOL DNC
Oprah addresses running for president
(CNN)Oprah Winfrey is downplaying her interest in a presidential run in a new interview, saying she doesn't "have the DNA" for a run.
"I've always felt very secure and confident with myself in knowing what I could do and what I could not," Winfrey explained to InStyle Magazine. "And so it's not something that interests me. I don't have the DNA for it."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/25/politics/oprah-2020-instyle-interview/index.html
Oprah addresses running for president
(CNN)Oprah Winfrey is downplaying her interest in a presidential run in a new interview, saying she doesn't "have the DNA" for a run.
"I've always felt very secure and confident with myself in knowing what I could do and what I could not," Winfrey explained to InStyle Magazine. "And so it's not something that interests me. I don't have the DNA for it."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/25/politics/oprah-2020-instyle-interview/index.html
Liar Loan
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Notorious never-Trumper, Mittens Romney is having some trouble securing the Republican nomination for the Utah Senate seat:
Romney forced into GOP primary for Utah Senate nomination
Romney forced into GOP primary for Utah Senate nomination
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/384301-romney-finishes-second-in-utah-gop-senate-primary
