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irvinehomeowner said:
Can't play outdoor tennis in JC in the summer like in Irvine.
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My office is ~8 minutes from Fashion Island. I decided I wanted to eat some ice cream while looking at the pacific ocean, so I did that at lunch a couple weeks ago.


My wife and I went to Javiers last Friday and got to eat guacamole, sip jalapeno margaritas, and look at the ocean. I don't think you can even get mexican food, much less with an ocean view in John's Creek.


So, yes, there's a lotta things you can do in Irvine/OC and not in John's Creek.

That's great that people like living there, but come on, it's not even in the same league as Orange County. Let's stop pretending it's even close.
 
ThirtySomethingWEquity said:
My office is ~8 minutes from Fashion Island. I decided I wanted to eat some ice cream while looking at the pacific ocean, so I did that at lunch a couple weeks ago.


My wife and I went to Javiers last Friday and got to eat guacamole, sip jalapeno margaritas, and look at the ocean. I don't think you can even get mexican food, much less with an ocean view in John's Creek.


So, yes, there's a lotta things you can do in Irvine/OC and not in John's Creek.

That's great that people like living there, but come on, it's not even in the same league as Orange County. Let's stop pretending it's even close.
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I have a friend doing medical residency in Georgia and while home prices are cheaper, he and his wife are looking to move back to OC with their kids when he is done. Life away from their parents and friendships spanning decades is making them long for a return back after living in other several states. That speaks to quality of life - it’s not just cheaper home prices, it’s about proximity to your closest relationships. He’s also mentioned how hard it is to stand the humidity there during summertime, as well as poor air quality.

I also happen to work in healthcare and sorry to say, having only one or two main hospitals serve a city of 50K+ people will cause delayed access to care.
 
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ThirtySomethingWEquity said:
Panda, your statistics are awful here, of course a city that has the population of UCI, a bunch of people who moved in 1970, and a hundred thousand apartment renters, is going to have a lower *median* household income than a small, new city filled with homeowners.

You can't make *any* sort of conclusion on QoL because home prices don't reflect house payments. Plenty of people making 80k a year are living in 3M plus homes in Irvine that they own free and clear.
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Lots of old money around OC own their homes free and clear, sittin deep in equity from home purchases made in 70’s-early 2000’s but may have low household income since they’re just taking social security distributions and 401k minimum distributions and continuing to live frugal lifestyles that got them there.
 
GrowthStateofMind said:
Lots of old money around OC own their homes free and clear, sittin deep in equity from home purchases made in 70’s-early 2000’s but may have low household income since they’re just taking social security distributions and 401k minimum distributions and continuing to live frugal lifestyles that got them there.
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Let’s be real: Atlanta has way more corporate jobs than LA/OC and GA Tech is on par with USC/UCLA. Bay Area is in its own league as the best job market in the world. Lots of people like CalBruin’s wife hate the beach so for people like that ATL is a great value prop - more high paying jobs and cheaper housing. Panda’s thesis is solid. I would never live there but then again I moved back to OC for lifestyle reasons knowing I’d be commuting to San Jose.
 
GrowthStateofMind said:
I have a friend doing medical residency in Georgia and while home prices are cheaper, he and his wife are looking to move back to OC with their kids when he is done. Life away from their parents and friendships spanning decades is making them long for a return back after living in other several states. That speaks to quality of life - it’s not just cheaper home prices, it’s about proximity to your closest relationships. He’s also mentioned how hard it is to stand the humidity there during summertime, as well as poor air quality.

I also happen to work in healthcare and sorry to say, having only one or two main hospitals serve a city of 50K+ people will cause delayed access to care.
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Good luck to them as new doctors these days don’t make near enough to buy the median OC house (well maybe in Stanton) but he’d be fine in JC. And I doubt there are many openings for him in OC, a prime destination for specialists. If you want to make the bucks as a specialist these days you need to go someplace underserved. If you’re not a specialist you’ll make what a 3rd year tech salesperson makes.

ACA made medicine a terrible paying career for anyone that has to retire the debt burden for med school.
 
OCtoSV said:
Let’s be real: Atlanta has way more corporate jobs than LA/OC and GA Tech is on par with USC/UCLA. Bay Area is in its own league as the best job market in the world. Lots of people like CalBruin’s wife hate the beach so for people like that ATL is a great value prop - more high paying jobs and cheaper housing. Panda’s thesis is solid. I would never live there but then again I moved back to OC for lifestyle reasons knowing I’d be commuting to San Jose.
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I find that hard to believe that Atlanta has more high paying jobs (tech and finance) than LA/OC.

Also, harder to super-commute to the Bay while that's doable from OC.
 
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