ICE or EV?

Which car(s) will you be buying next?

  • ICE ICE Baby (morekaos dinosaur option)

    Votes: 16 34.0%

  • EV forEVa (unicorns for all)

    Votes: 24 51.1%

  • PHEV (I still have range anxiety)

    Votes: 5 10.6%

  • Hybrid (can't plug in yet)

    Votes: 5 10.6%

  • Alternative fuel (Hydrogen, vegetable oil, etc)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • Total voters
    47
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Doubt it will make them cheaper to operate. As soon as there is profit margin somewhere... they will abuse it.

That's one thing about EVs that is killing old school dealers, no revenue on maintenance.

Regulation has its time and place. Covid has shown less ICE cars on the road does affect pollution but I know those type of topics go nowhere for you.

All I know is my EVs are quieter and my garage is less dirty/smelly... and my starting torque rules.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Doubt it will make them cheaper to operate. As soon as there is profit margin somewhere... they will abuse it.

That's one thing about EVs that is killing old school dealers, no revenue on maintenance.

Regulation has its time and place. Covid has shown less ICE cars on the road does affect pollution but I know those type of topics go nowhere for you.

All I know is my EVs are quieter and my garage is less dirty/smelly... and my starting torque rules.
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There is always profit margin..it doesn’t matter if oil is $20 or $120 they always make the margin…I keep telling you that. Low gas prices mean operating ICE is cheap for all. Cheap energy is always the key…it remains that.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
You misread that. Their lines are ditching ICE in favor of hybrid. And then eventually EV.
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I think the Toyota Highlander will only be EV.

I’m surprised Toyota isn’t trying EREV in their trucks.

Also about FSD (since Toyota is releasing some self driving in TSS4 on their 26 RAV4), there is some concern over who is going to bear the cost of insurance for self driving. In case of major accidents, who is on the hook?
 
irvinehomeowner said:
That's why EVs are cheap and convenient. Especially if you have solar.

It feels good to have some freedom from fossil fuels.
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Unfortunately, they are none of those things….🤦🏽‍♂️😂😂😂😂👎🏽🦄🌈 According to the sigularity…

As of early 2026, the average transaction price for a new electric vehicle (EV) in the U.S. is approximately $55,000–$58,000, with prices continuing to stabilize after falling from previous peaks. While luxury models can exceed $100,000

A home EV charging station (Level 2) typically costs
between $500 and $900 for the hardware, with installation, labor, and potential permitting adding another $300 to $3,000+, depending on electrical system upgrades. Total setup costs often range from $1,000 to over $3,000

In 2026, the average cost of a home solar panel system in the U.S. is approximately $17,800 to $26,400 for a typical installation, before federal tax credits. Costs generally range between $2.74 and $3.30 per watt, with an average 8 kW system costing roughly $21,900 – $26,400.
 
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