ICE or EV?

[morekaos]

Ahhh so, it was just an execution issue, fumbled by the automakers that has led to slow adoption…OK. Truth is, this is going down exactly as many here predicted. The Technology was just not ready for prime time but the fools in charge bought into and encouraged total commitment to a market that just wasn’t ready in order to satisfy some foolish virtue signal. AS, predicted…reality has set in and profits have re-established their importance. Again, I never said that EV’s didn’t have a market…they do, just not the way liberals wanted it to. Now common sense has returned, and the market can form up naturally…EV’s need to earn their place not be given it as a participation trophy….

The US auto industry is bracing for an EV winter. Here's why.

• EVs were once the future in the US. Now, they're at risk of short-circuiting.
• Policy changes, tariffs, and supply chain disruptions have sparked warnings of an EV deep freeze.

A nightmare combination of policy changes, tariffs, and supply chain upheavals has prompted automakers that once set ambitious EV targets to revise their strategies, lay off workers, and double down on hybrids and gasoline vehicles.

"We're not going to see a huge growth in the next couple of years," Valdez Streaty said, adding that a lack of affordable EVs was still the main barrier for adoption.

"The whole combination of everything in the water right now is causing some automakers to either cancel or delay electric vehicle programs," Stephanie Brinley, an associate director at S&P Global, told Business Insider, adding that the impact would leave consumers with fewer choices over the next few years.

The combined effect of the tariffs and the EV slowdown has led some automakers to pull electric models from the US market entirely.

Speaking at a tech conference hosted by Barclays last week, Ford CFO Sherry House said she expected a "contraction" in the US electric vehicle market, adding the company would likely respond by investing in gas-powered vehicles like its Mustang and Raptor lines.

Why the US Auto Industry Is Bracing for an EV Winter - Business Insider

 

[irvinehomeowner]

What does this have to do with liberals? Technology is apolitical. Same with alternative and clean energy.

Stop being an idealogue.

 

[morekaos]

What does this have to do with liberals? Technology is apolitical. Same with alternative and clean energy.

Stop being an idealogue

That’s exactly what you miss…I never questioned the tech…what made me angry was the political drive to push technology that was not ready for mass distribution, all for a misguided political agenda. The green new steal was the impetus for all the funding for mass EV adoption. Politics drove the blind push to get something that was not profitable (and still isn’t) foisted onto the masses…it didn’t work and all that money has been wasted. To me it was obvious but for those blinded by ideology…you never saw it coming…I knew the system would correct but that didn’t mean I had to like all our wasted tax money…

 

[morekaos]

Talking about EV trucks, Scout (VW backed) was the buzz at the LA Auto Show. I also have high hopes for Slate and Telio but given the climate, it's going to be a longer road.

By the way Scout is going to be another disaster…said it over and over…VW makes very bad financial decisions…this is another…

VW IS IN BIG FINANCIAL TROUBLE! SHOULD IT SELL SCOUT MOTORS?

German automaker Volkswagen is in a terrible financial spot that has it considering drastic action on less or non-profitable areas of the company, which could include its investment in EV startup Scout Motors.

Gunnar Kilian, a VW board member, warns that the company’s goal to cut about $11.6 million will need to be achieved through measures other than just workforce reduction. “We need to finally be brave and honest enough to throw things overboard that are being duplicated within the company or are simply ballast we don’t need for good results,” Kilian said.

VW is in Big Financial Trouble! Should It Sell Scout Motors?

 

[irvinehomeowner]

That’s exactly what you miss…I never questioned the tech…what made me angry was the political drive to push technology that was not ready for mass distribution, all for a misguided political agenda. The green new steal was the impetus for all the funding for mass EV adoption. Politics drove the blind push to get something that was not profitable (and still isn’t) foisted onto the masses…it didn’t work and all that money has been wasted. To me it was obvious but for those blinded by ideology…you never saw it coming…I knew the system would correct but that didn’t mean I had to like all our wasted tax money…

Such a lie. When I talked about the tech you never agreed.

Even your buddy LL tried to misinform about EVs being less advanced and all you said was they were overpriced not knowing they actually cost less than $100k (even without Fed help).

This is why I Chatgpt you because you're just nonsense. You chalk up being wrong to you were joking and then you spew right sided bias without knowing the facts or the science.

Why have other countries gone EV? One of the biggest populations in the world is electrifying.

 

[morekaos]

Everything I said about the EV disaster has come true,. China is just supplementing It’s EV market. They also are the largest Ice market and biggest coal energy consumer. Their economy is in a shambles right now so if they want to continue down that disastrous road, I’m all for it. Again, I’ve never said you can’t have an EV. I just don’t wanna pay for it.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

So where are you agreeing about the technology?

And the irony is you are paying for ICE cars too.

 

[morekaos]

The tech has never been my issue. Using my taxpayer money to subsidize and pay for your expensive high tech toy has always been my issue…that’s fixed now, but it took all that wasted money to get here. I wouldn’t mind getting that back