God?

[Mety]

I'm not 100% sure what your view is though so I can't see what you are correct about. I wasn't even sure if you were Christian either since you never said you were. Now that you're saying you've been spreading the gospel all along, I'm sort of unclear when you did so.

My view of Christianity is pretty simple. We are all wretched sinners and there is nothing good in us. The only way we can be sinless and be with God is through His Son, Jesus. By believing Jesus took away my sin when He died on the cross, I'm finally free from the bondage of sin and death. Free from death also because Jesus rose again from the dead as well. That is the main message of the gospel and I've been saying that in this thread all along. Forgive me if that wasn't clear.

Now, to believe and live a real Christian life, God has to let us first. We don't live our lives anymore. We are dead once we accept Jesus as our Savior. Now Christ lives in us and any good faithful works produced is from Him alone. David's victory over Goliath is also one of those examples God working through the believers. Any warriors or someone who's done big things in God's name are all activated by the Spirit of God to bring the victory over the enemies. It's not themselves who were great since The Bible clearly states all those people's wretched sins and mistakes. It was God who used those people in His own great power. That's the point. Humans, regardless of what origins or backgrounds, are all filthy and in a bondage of sin. How so? Because everyone dies. Why everyone dies? Because God cursed so when Adam fell in the beginning. The only way to have eternal life is when God un-curses so. That is only by believing God's sent Son, Jesus. And once you truly believe, you will repent of yourself, a wretched sinful nature. That is the only way to respond to the unconditional forgiveness God gives to these all dying people. Thus though we're sinful, God lets us live in Christ's goodness, a new life. To live a new life, you have to die of your old self. David and all those OT and NT saints were in this belief thus though dead in flesh, live forever with God.

Please let me know what parts you're disagreeing or not understanding so that we can keep having good conversations here.

I appreciate your thoughts and views. However I respectfully believe I am correct. To be honest I did nothing wrong. I spread the gospel and fought for the faith. (It?s like totally textbook. As you would say: maybe the Holy Spirit told me to stick up for the faith of God. Don?t let them normalize to bring down the faith.)

Just to let you know there are many great warriors in the Bible. So don?t do a disservice and say otherwise. If your not telling the total truth then your lying or something. Trust me I know what I?m talking about.

If you really believe Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation, then you are already in the army of God. So technically, you are a soldier who fights for God all the time. And those fights are not on your own strength. All you can do is to know what the head of the army commands. The head of the army is Jesus and He commands to love and forgive. That is the strategy we fight with. The punishment job to the enemy belongs to God alone. That has always been the way for God even since from the Old Testament times. Israel never won a single battle on their own. It was always God who destroyed the enemies. The same thing is even today. We don't fight on our own. We keep knowing God by His Words and know what He commands daily. That is our duty. That is what it means to walk with God.

And sure, there comes times we need to speak up, stand up, or even shout aloud in the face of enemies, but even then the victory is not determined by our own strength. It is always by God Himself alone. He will work through us who have the Holy Spirit. There is though a sin we should not allow. That is a sin that denies Jesus as the only way to salvation. That is something we should not tolerate as God doesn't forgive that sin either.

Now eyephone, I don't know how you interpret the Bible, but you seem to call yourself a Jesus believer or a Christian. I can deal with having different interpretations here and there as we walk different phases spiritually. I myself could be wrong time to time so I won't force you to believe what I believe. Only the Holy Spirit can let us know the right thing anyways. But if I were you, I would check who you are fighting with. Maybe those people you are fighting are Christians also. Having different ideas or beliefs doesn't make them enemies. The only enemy of ours is Satan. I do respect your opinions and knowledge in many areas. You're definitely someone way smarter than myself. But as far as interpreting the Bible, we should start doing so by putting Jesus as the pivotal point all the time. We should also ask The Holy Spirit who guides us to know the Scripture correctly. It's a good practice which you might already be doing. And for the record, I'm not discrediting Christianity. In fact, I'm trying to stay as pure as how it's said in the Bible as much as I can throughout these discussions.

 

[eyephone]

Nice subtle attack. It doesn?t really matter what you think this thread about. You know the basics about being a Christian. You are saying generic things. (Believe in God and ask forgiveness. Another obvious thing you say is for the glory of God. Everybody sins I think we all know that.)

But please don?t try to discredit me when I give examples from the Bible. At the end, I said to myself. I?m the only only one that confronted him about talking bad about Christianity. Where was the other so called Christians to confront him? (There were no where to be found.)

I'm not 100% sure what your view is though so I can't see what you are correct about. I wasn't even sure if you were Christian either since you never said you were. Now that you're saying you've been spreading the gospel all along, I'm sort of unclear when you did so.

My view of Christianity is pretty simple. We are all wretched sinners and there is nothing good in us. The only way we can be sinless and be with God is through His Son, Jesus. By believing Jesus took away my sin when He died on the cross, I'm finally free from the bondage of sin and death. Free from death also because Jesus rose again from the dead as well. That is the main message of the gospel and I've been saying that in this thread all along. Forgive me if that wasn't clear.

Now, to believe and live a real Christian life, God has to let us first. We don't live our lives anymore. We are dead once we accept Jesus as our Savior. Now Christ lives in us and any good faithful works produced is from Him alone. David's victory over Goliath is also one of those examples God working through the believers. Any warriors or someone who's done big things in God's name are all activated by the Spirit of God to bring the victory over the enemies. It's not themselves who were great since The Bible clearly states all those people's wretched sins and mistakes. It was God who used those people in His own great power. That's the point. Humans, regardless of what origins or backgrounds, are all filthy and in a bondage of sin. How so? Because everyone dies. Why everyone dies? Because God cursed so when Adam fell in the beginning. The only way to have eternal life is when God un-curses so. That is only by believing God's sent Son, Jesus. And once you truly believe, you will repent of yourself, a wretched sinful nature. That is the only way to respond to the unconditional forgiveness God gives to these all dying people. Thus though we're sinful, God lets us live in Christ's goodness, a new life. To live a new life, you have to die of your old self. David and all those OT and NT saints were in this belief thus though dead in flesh, live forever with God.

Please let me know what parts you're disagreeing or not understanding so that we can keep having good conversations here.

I appreciate your thoughts and views. However I respectfully believe I am correct. To be honest I did nothing wrong. I spread the gospel and fought for the faith. (It?s like totally textbook. As you would say: maybe the Holy Spirit told me to stick up for the faith of God. Don?t let them normalize to bring down the faith.)

Just to let you know there are many great warriors in the Bible. So don?t do a disservice and say otherwise. If your not telling the total truth then your lying or something. Trust me I know what I?m talking about.

If you really believe Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation, then you are already in the army of God. So technically, you are a soldier who fights for God all the time. And those fights are not on your own strength. All you can do is to know what the head of the army commands. The head of the army is Jesus and He commands to love and forgive. That is the strategy we fight with. The punishment job to the enemy belongs to God alone. That has always been the way for God even since from the Old Testament times. Israel never won a single battle on their own. It was always God who destroyed the enemies. The same thing is even today. We don't fight on our own. We keep knowing God by His Words and know what He commands daily. That is our duty. That is what it means to walk with God.

And sure, there comes times we need to speak up, stand up, or even shout aloud in the face of enemies, but even then the victory is not determined by our own strength. It is always by God Himself alone. He will work through us who have the Holy Spirit. There is though a sin we should not allow. That is a sin that denies Jesus as the only way to salvation. That is something we should not tolerate as God doesn't forgive that sin either.

Now eyephone, I don't know how you interpret the Bible, but you seem to call yourself a Jesus believer or a Christian. I can deal with having different interpretations here and there as we walk different phases spiritually. I myself could be wrong time to time so I won't force you to believe what I believe. Only the Holy Spirit can let us know the right thing anyways. But if I were you, I would check who you are fighting with. Maybe those people you are fighting are Christians also. Having different ideas or beliefs doesn't make them enemies. The only enemy of ours is Satan. I do respect your opinions and knowledge in many areas. You're definitely someone way smarter than myself. But as far as interpreting the Bible, we should start doing so by putting Jesus as the pivotal point all the time. We should also ask The Holy Spirit who guides us to know the Scripture correctly. It's a good practice which you might already be doing. And for the record, I'm not discrediting Christianity. In fact, I'm trying to stay as pure as how it's said in the Bible as much as I can throughout these discussions.

 

[Mety]

Ok, so you know all those. I hope and pray you live a life that glorifies God. If you have any questions or want to ask me something, then I'm here for you.

Who talked bad about Christianity? Are you talking about morekoas? I don't think he talked bad about Christianity. I think he's Christian himself also. He can chime in and say otherwise if he's not. He just posted articles which I don't agree the contents with, but they were not at all Christian related articles anyways if you read them. But if you were offended and felt like you had to say something, then I can't stop you. It's your freedom of speech. But I hope you use your freedom rather to help him get to know Christ instead of attacking back at him or anyone you confront with. I think that's a smarter fight we can do as Christians. If you think otherwise, then keep on doing what you're doing. As long as your heart is purely intentional to glorify God, He will use your posts somehow to save anyone lost.

Let me tell you when I usually get really angry. I get angry when someone called, a "Christian" acts or uses God's words wrongfully. Every Word of God is intended to glory Christ and when pastors or some Christians use them to glorify themselves, I just can't let that pass by. For example, some church pastors are using the Bible verses to get more people to their church attendance. That's a false teaching in my opinion. Pastors are to preach the Word of God as is even if that scares people away. They need to talk about sin and death. They also need to talk about love and forgiveness. Any church that's focusing only on one side is most likely to run their businesses instead of purely preaching the gospel. It's not just the pastors who do this but individuals can very likely fall into this. The motivation and intention (heart) are the key. Now, even though I get angry, I'm not going to bash on them in their faces or attack them physically. That's pretty anti-Christ-like. I would first pray and ask God to lead them to the right path. And I can keep saying or posting things that are correct. The outcome is God's. I just keep on preaching and loving. If you think only your way is the right way to fight back, then I can't help you on that either but to keep on praying for you.

Nice subtle attack. It doesn?t really matter what you think this thread about. You know the basics about being a Christian. You are saying generic things. (Believe in God and ask forgiveness. Another obvious thing you say is for the glory of God. Everybody sins I think we all know that.)

But please don?t try to discredit me when I give examples from the Bible. At the end, I said to myself. I?m the only only one that confronted him about talking bad about Christianity. Where was the other so called Christians to confront him? (There were no where to be found.)

I'm not 100% sure what your view is though so I can't see what you are correct about. I wasn't even sure if you were Christian either since you never said you were. Now that you're saying you've been spreading the gospel all along, I'm sort of unclear when you did so.

My view of Christianity is pretty simple. We are all wretched sinners and there is nothing good in us. The only way we can be sinless and be with God is through His Son, Jesus. By believing Jesus took away my sin when He died on the cross, I'm finally free from the bondage of sin and death. Free from death also because Jesus rose again from the dead as well. That is the main message of the gospel and I've been saying that in this thread all along. Forgive me if that wasn't clear.

Now, to believe and live a real Christian life, God has to let us first. We don't live our lives anymore. We are dead once we accept Jesus as our Savior. Now Christ lives in us and any good faithful works produced is from Him alone. David's victory over Goliath is also one of those examples God working through the believers. Any warriors or someone who's done big things in God's name are all activated by the Spirit of God to bring the victory over the enemies. It's not themselves who were great since The Bible clearly states all those people's wretched sins and mistakes. It was God who used those people in His own great power. That's the point. Humans, regardless of what origins or backgrounds, are all filthy and in a bondage of sin. How so? Because everyone dies. Why everyone dies? Because God cursed so when Adam fell in the beginning. The only way to have eternal life is when God un-curses so. That is only by believing God's sent Son, Jesus. And once you truly believe, you will repent of yourself, a wretched sinful nature. That is the only way to respond to the unconditional forgiveness God gives to these all dying people. Thus though we're sinful, God lets us live in Christ's goodness, a new life. To live a new life, you have to die of your old self. David and all those OT and NT saints were in this belief thus though dead in flesh, live forever with God.

Please let me know what parts you're disagreeing or not understanding so that we can keep having good conversations here.

I appreciate your thoughts and views. However I respectfully believe I am correct. To be honest I did nothing wrong. I spread the gospel and fought for the faith. (It?s like totally textbook. As you would say: maybe the Holy Spirit told me to stick up for the faith of God. Don?t let them normalize to bring down the faith.)

Just to let you know there are many great warriors in the Bible. So don?t do a disservice and say otherwise. If your not telling the total truth then your lying or something. Trust me I know what I?m talking about.

If you really believe Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation, then you are already in the army of God. So technically, you are a soldier who fights for God all the time. And those fights are not on your own strength. All you can do is to know what the head of the army commands. The head of the army is Jesus and He commands to love and forgive. That is the strategy we fight with. The punishment job to the enemy belongs to God alone. That has always been the way for God even since from the Old Testament times. Israel never won a single battle on their own. It was always God who destroyed the enemies. The same thing is even today. We don't fight on our own. We keep knowing God by His Words and know what He commands daily. That is our duty. That is what it means to walk with God.

And sure, there comes times we need to speak up, stand up, or even shout aloud in the face of enemies, but even then the victory is not determined by our own strength. It is always by God Himself alone. He will work through us who have the Holy Spirit. There is though a sin we should not allow. That is a sin that denies Jesus as the only way to salvation. That is something we should not tolerate as God doesn't forgive that sin either.

Now eyephone, I don't know how you interpret the Bible, but you seem to call yourself a Jesus believer or a Christian. I can deal with having different interpretations here and there as we walk different phases spiritually. I myself could be wrong time to time so I won't force you to believe what I believe. Only the Holy Spirit can let us know the right thing anyways. But if I were you, I would check who you are fighting with. Maybe those people you are fighting are Christians also. Having different ideas or beliefs doesn't make them enemies. The only enemy of ours is Satan. I do respect your opinions and knowledge in many areas. You're definitely someone way smarter than myself. But as far as interpreting the Bible, we should start doing so by putting Jesus as the pivotal point all the time. We should also ask The Holy Spirit who guides us to know the Scripture correctly. It's a good practice which you might already be doing. And for the record, I'm not discrediting Christianity. In fact, I'm trying to stay as pure as how it's said in the Bible as much as I can throughout these discussions.

 

[eyephone]

Why do you assume he is? Did he tell you?
(Right there is such a bias)
Does a Christian make racially remark against other races? Maybe at your church. Let me tell you this the Bible does not preach this.

When Belly called someone a fake vet or something on TI. (Allegedly) I want to apply this to this situation and say fake ______. Because who in the right mind would be so negative against Catholics. I think the only reason he shared that article is to look down on Catholics. But I?m not surprised he used the same tactic against an American company.

If you don?t say something then it?s like your okay with it. (Aka normalizing it)

 

[Mety]

eyephone, just check your heart and see if you really want morekaos to be saved. Not just him but anyone. IHO, zubs, LL, Kings, or even Belly, anyone you talk/argue with. Do you want to see those people when we all finally go to Heaven? If so, I'm not arguing anything with you. But if what you are doing is not motivated by such longing heart, then you should check if you're really doing something for God. Like I've been mentioning, we no longer live with the flesh nor live for what the flesh desires. We're already dead on that. We keep on living spiritually with Christ in us until He finally gives us the perfect body like His resurrected one. That is the Christian life. We should definitely fight for someone who mocks such faith, someone who proclaims Jesus is not the Son of God, but things like dumb/fake articles shouldn't really offend us anymore since we've been already dead in flesh anyways. Nothing really should offend us personally. It's only God and His love that matter to us.

Why do you assume he is? Did he tell you?
(Right there is such a bias)
Does a Christian make racially remark against other races? Maybe at your church. Let me tell you this the Bible does not preach this.

When Belly called someone a fake vet or something on TI. (Allegedly) I want to apply this to this situation and say fake ______. Because who in the right mind would be so negative against Catholics. I think the only reason he shared that article is to look down on Catholics. But I?m not surprised he used the same tactic against an American company.

If you don?t say something then it?s like your okay with it. (Aka normalizing it)

 

[eyephone]

Let?s not bring other people into the conversation. Because they have nothing to do with it.

eyephone, just check your heart and see if you really want morekaos to be saved. Not just him but anyone. IHO, zubs, LL, Kings, or even Belly, anyone you talk/argue with. Do you want to see those people when we all finally go to Heaven? If so, I'm not arguing anything with you. But if what you are doing is not motivated by such longing heart, then you should check if you're really doing something for God. Like I've been mentioning, we no longer live with the flesh nor live for what the flesh desires. We're already dead on that. We keep on living spiritually with Christ in us until He finally gives us the perfect body like His resurrected one. That is the Christian life. We should definitely fight for someone who mocks such faith, someone who proclaims Jesus is not the Son of God, but things like dumb/fake articles shouldn't really offend us anymore since we've been already dead in flesh anyways. Nothing really should offend us personally. It's only God and His love that matter to us.

Why do you assume he is? Did he tell you?
(Right there is such a bias)
Does a Christian make racially remark against other races? Maybe at your church. Let me tell you this the Bible does not preach this.

When Belly called someone a fake vet or something on TI. (Allegedly) I want to apply this to this situation and say fake ______. Because who in the right mind would be so negative against Catholics. I think the only reason he shared that article is to look down on Catholics. But I?m not surprised he used the same tactic against an American company.

If you don?t say something then it?s like your okay with it. (Aka normalizing it)

 

[Mety]

Well, you brought up morekoas and Belly first.. haha. Anyways, you can stick with only me if you want. I just hope whoever reads these read God's truth somehow and get to know Jesus personally thus believe (including you, eyephone ).

Let?s not bring other people into the conversation. Because they have nothing to do with it.

eyephone, just check your heart and see if you really want morekaos to be saved. Not just him but anyone. IHO, zubs, LL, Kings, or even Belly, anyone you talk/argue with. Do you want to see those people when we all finally go to Heaven? If so, I'm not arguing anything with you. But if what you are doing is not motivated by such longing heart, then you should check if you're really doing something for God. Like I've been mentioning, we no longer live with the flesh nor live for what the flesh desires. We're already dead on that. We keep on living spiritually with Christ in us until He finally gives us the perfect body like His resurrected one. That is the Christian life. We should definitely fight for someone who mocks such faith, someone who proclaims Jesus is not the Son of God, but things like dumb/fake articles shouldn't really offend us anymore since we've been already dead in flesh anyways. Nothing really should offend us personally. It's only God and His love that matter to us.

Why do you assume he is? Did he tell you?
(Right there is such a bias)
Does a Christian make racially remark against other races? Maybe at your church. Let me tell you this the Bible does not preach this.

When Belly called someone a fake vet or something on TI. (Allegedly) I want to apply this to this situation and say fake ______. Because who in the right mind would be so negative against Catholics. I think the only reason he shared that article is to look down on Catholics. But I?m not surprised he used the same tactic against an American company.

If you don?t say something then it?s like your okay with it. (Aka normalizing it)

 

[eyephone]

1. I used Belly because he used the term Fake which fits perfectly. For the record he has nothing to do with this topic as he is inactive.
2. But I will mention the other person since he posted something.

I?m not fighting or arguing. I?m just pointing it out.

Well, you brought up morekoas and Belly first.. haha. Anyways, you can stick with only me if you want. I just hope whoever reads these read God's truth somehow and get to know Jesus personally thus believe (including you, eyephone ).

Let?s not bring other people into the conversation. Because they have nothing to do with it.

eyephone, just check your heart and see if you really want morekaos to be saved. Not just him but anyone. IHO, zubs, LL, Kings, or even Belly, anyone you talk/argue with. Do you want to see those people when we all finally go to Heaven? If so, I'm not arguing anything with you. But if what you are doing is not motivated by such longing heart, then you should check if you're really doing something for God. Like I've been mentioning, we no longer live with the flesh nor live for what the flesh desires. We're already dead on that. We keep on living spiritually with Christ in us until He finally gives us the perfect body like His resurrected one. That is the Christian life. We should definitely fight for someone who mocks such faith, someone who proclaims Jesus is not the Son of God, but things like dumb/fake articles shouldn't really offend us anymore since we've been already dead in flesh anyways. Nothing really should offend us personally. It's only God and His love that matter to us.

Why do you assume he is? Did he tell you?
(Right there is such a bias)
Does a Christian make racially remark against other races? Maybe at your church. Let me tell you this the Bible does not preach this.

When Belly called someone a fake vet or something on TI. (Allegedly) I want to apply this to this situation and say fake ______. Because who in the right mind would be so negative against Catholics. I think the only reason he shared that article is to look down on Catholics. But I?m not surprised he used the same tactic against an American company.

If you don?t say something then it?s like your okay with it. (Aka normalizing it)

 

[Kings]

i look forward to seeing my buddy eyephone at the pearly gates

 

[Mety]

Ok, eyephone, let me anayize what's going on here. For those who are not interested can just ignore these posts.

You think morekaos was attacking Christianity (or Catholic or whatever religions) by posting some articles that says "faith in decline." And you're pointing out how come no other Christian or religious people responded him back So you, being a brave Christian, had to respond and in a way fight back since you took it as he was attacking Christians. Am I right so far?

Here is what really happened (in my opinion):
morekaos posted those articles around Halloween time. Those were all kind of spooky stuff (evil and exorcism) so I took it as almost a joke. But I still asked him if he believed the evil exists and also asked him how he thinks we should live in this time where things are upside down. Those were not questions of things I didn't know. Those were to ask him where he was standing. Since I didn't know if he was "attacking" anything, I just had to check his intention first. Also hoping he  would a believer since I hope more and more people are. The answer he provided sounded pretty legit and I added we should also love if we're real Christians (check those posts if you don't remember).

Now, I guess I can say you did the right thing, in a way, since your intention was to protect Christianity. But since I concluded morekoas was not actually attacking anything, I didn't fight back as you did. I could be wrong. Maybe he really was mocking Christians. I can't fully know anyone's heart. That's why I said if he's not Christian, he can chime in and say otherwise.

There also are other things we need to cover, but let's see if we're clear on this so far, eyephone.

 

[morekaos]

Actually, I am deeply Catholic but I respect your point of view about the church (many see it like you do).  The post was mostly lamenting the decline of faith...not attacking it.  Form is an entirely different topic to me.

 

[Mety]

Actually, I am deeply Catholic but I respect your point of view about the church (many see it like you do).  The post was mostly lamenting the decline of faith...not attacking it.  Form is an entirely different topic to me.

Thanks for clarifying your position.

I think one of the big reasons why people are abandoning faith is because they are seeing so many hypocritical church leaders. Since church leaders or pastors or priests, whatever you want to call are not doing their job right, poor people are getting hurt and leaving faith altogether. People who leave are not any better either because they shouldn't rely on people for their faith but only onto God alone. However, the leaders do need to sort out their position more than anything. Their primary job is to teach people the Word of God. Once they put anything more important than that (money, power, politics, or even relationship), they are not obeying God. God does give their job description in both the OT and the NT and they should follow it.

Another reason people leave faith is because people are sinful. People have been sinful since Adam fell anyways and people always have been loving sin more than God. Even when Jesus was ministering in this earth, it seemed like many people were gathering in, but as soon as Jesus talked about commitment, most people left Him, cursed Him, and even killed Him. If it was decline of faith even when Jesus Himself was doing, how hard would it be for us? However, Jesus did promise that His disciples would do greater things than He did and it did happen when The Apostles preached the gospel as we can see in the Book of Acts, witnessing thousands of people being converted. Even in the midst of this sinful human nature, if you firmly believe Jesus is the Son of God, who came into the flesh, who died and rose again for us, the only way to salvation, then it's God who gave you that conviction so hold on to it to the very end as the most latter Books of the NT are teaching that very truth.

 

[Mety]

i look forward to seeing my buddy eyephone at the pearly gates

If you really mean that, Amen, brethren.

 

[Mety]

With this current Covid-19 situation, there are couple things came to my mind.

First, why am I writing this in God thread? Well, as a Christian myself I have to see the situation why God has allowed this to happen at this time. Many are saying it came from China with them eating exotic animals and it spread world wide. While that could be true (or not), we have to see deeper than that. Here are some positive things we can consider.

1. We can spend more time with family. Working from home is in a way forcing us to stay together. While some might not be fortunate to have this privilege, if you do, that's something you can thank God for.

2. Churches are closed. Why is this a positive thing? Well, at first it was pretty sad to see empty seats at our church. I'm serving at our church so I still have to go and we're doing online service every Sunday until things get better. I believe this situation is reminding us what true worship is. It's not just bunch of people gathering on Sunday and do what all the others churches normally do. Where there are two or more people in Jesus' Name, that is church even if that is at home. Without nice seats, music, and social friends, we can still be church. We can have a family worship at home which is the most important social place to begin with especially for learning kids. Thankfully, many churches are capable of online service now days, so we can also stream for the Word of God easily.

3. Kids might appreciate schools more. I never hated school. I always loved going to school all the way up to college. But I found most (or many) kids hate to go to school. But when they finally go back, they might realize they belong where they're supposed to be. Also we adults might find ourselves we've been taking things for granted. Every day is a gift from God and we can find ourselves thankful for we were able to do things without any limitations like now.

4. With all the negativities going on, Christians should repent. Christians now days especially in well developed countries like the US are pretty spoiled. I can include myself on that also. There is no hunger for God. There is no real selfless love anymore. We're all worried about money and think about how we can have a little more. We lie to cover up and call it a white lie to justify ourselves. With this Covid-19, God is actually rebuking us in a mild way IMHO. It could have been much worse, but God is still giving us a chance to repent and live a life that is Christ-driven life. Of course, we ourselves can't fully accomplish this. That's why we need to repent for our sins and ask God for help so that Christ will live our lives instead of us trying with our faultiness. This nation also needs our prayer for there's been too much hypocrisy in the name of God used in wrong ways so many times from political leaders to even small churches. While we repent, we should pray for leaders of this nation and other nations even if you don't like the current administration. Because that is what Jesus taught and also Paul reminded us, Christ believers to do so.

I pray and also have a firm assurance that God will protect His people in the midst of hard times. I'm not saying if you believe in God, you won't get Covid-19. Whether you get it or not, in times like this is where we can fully depend on God and see how He leads us. He will make all of these to work together for our good. Stay safe, everyone!

 

[irvinehomeowner]

Online service is interesting. What was nice was old members from other states could make it.

This may be elevator buttonish but sometimes I feel like the people who don't have faith cause this kind of panic and hoarding we are seeing.

Or there are people like qwerty who thinks we are all crazy.

 

[eyephone]

Online service is interesting. What was nice was old members from other states could make it.

This may be elevator buttonish but sometimes I feel like the people who don't have faith cause this kind of panic and hoarding we are seeing.

Or there are people like qwerty who thinks we are all crazy.

I thought he joined the club.

 

[Mety]

Online service is interesting. What was nice was old members from other states could make it.

This may be elevator buttonish but sometimes I feel like the people who don't have faith cause this kind of panic and hoarding we are seeing.

Or there are people like qwerty who thinks we are all crazy.

Lack of faith results in panic and hoarding is a result of panic. Interestingly, The Bible does command not to pile stuff up for yourself selfishly since God can take all those away and your life as well. God also can give all those and sustain your life at the same time. So we are to trust Him and our only job is to love one another.

Although I think some people even with faith would be tempted to buy more than usual because things they need might not be in stock at the moment, I think we just need to be wise and change/adjust accordingly. Hoarding selfishly and youngsters partying like how it's happening at Florida beach are both bad examples especially if you claim to have faith in Christ.

 

[Mety]

Something other than coronavirus..

So let me ask especially Christian brothers and sisters here. When someone says God gave you a promise, what does that mean? I've heard pastors preaching like "Hold on to what God has promised for your life." How do you take that? Has God really given you a certain promise? Has He spoken to you personally? Has it come to your mind when you were praying or reading His Words? Please share if you have something like this or even if you disagree with such things. Would love to discuss on this matter.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

Wish IrvineCommuter was still active... although we disagree on small lots, we are closely aligned when it comes to God and Irvine house values and he is more articulate than I am in regards to this.

I'm not sure what you mean by "hold on to what God promised", but I do believe he has promised Christians something (and by that I don't mean a Tesla Y).

 

[Mety]

Wish IrvineCommuter was still active... although we disagree on small lots, we are closely aligned when it comes to God and Irvine house values and he is more articulate than I am in regards to this.

I'm not sure what you mean by "hold on to what God promised", but I do believe he has promised Christians something (and by that I don't mean a Tesla Y).

What is that God has promised you? That's what I want to know. Is it a personal thing? Is it Christ's return?