You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
God?
- Thread starter irvinehomeowner
- Start date
NEW -> Contingent Buyer Assistance Program
That sounds almost correct. We should surely try as you stated. But one most important thing is that we have to love.
The definition of love is patient and kind, does not boast, is not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love is the only thing that will last and that is the very thing Jesus commands us to do.
That is the only difference of being a Christian because trying to live a good life with guiding family is something everyone, even non-Christians, should do.
We have to fight for Christianity as said in the Bible!!!
1 Timothy 6:12: fight the good fight of the faith
Wow you think Catholics are heretics? Take a look at history they fought for Christianity and Jesus Christ.
Yeah, but morekoas is not attacking Christianity though. So no reason to fight, right? Am I missing something?
He?s highlighting in bold the Faith in decline. I?m not sure if it?s true or not..Maybe you don?t think Catholics are considered Christians that is why.
And most of their fight was not really Christian or what Christ would have wanted. They kept fighting for their own benefits including even killing genuine Christ believers. The error with Catholic is they made regulations and traditions based on human desires and set them as if they're God's laws. The same mistake for Judaism and most other religious systems to be honest.
The only fight Christians are supposed to fight is the spiritual fight. We need to stand against motivations, trends, teachings, cultures, or even laws that are against what God says in the Bible. That is not to say start a rebellion or anything as the Bible strictly teaches not to do so. It's that we don't get blended into such wrong systems. It's that regardless of such attacks, we show love and kindness. It's that we keep preaching Christ even if the law says not to do so.
Placeholder. I will respond later.
1. I think you should look at previous history regarding Catholics before I respond.
2. Bible teaches many things. But let?s look at David versus Goliath. David did not run away and he had no sword or armor. We all know how the story ended. David won the battle. (I will leave the other parts what David did after he used the sling shot, just in case kids or others read this)
In general, we can try for peaceful resolution, but there are times we have to fight back against evil.
1. Once you start adding or taking out things from the Scriptures, you?re heretic no matter what religious system you?re in. Catholic, Judaism, or even Christianity, they all could be heretic if they don?t keep the Word of God as is. God gave us this book, The Holy Bible as a COMPLETE and ONLY revelation of His will to the humanity. That was the exact reason Christianity had to reform from the apostate Catholic system which the church fathers had to sacrifice even their lives for. Up to even today, Catholic religion has so many false regulations added to their system (including demon casting for morekaos) to the point where even Jesus becomes not the only way to salvation and that is exactly opposite of what Jesus taught. The reason they added things was really to make more money and power for themselves pretty much. Jesus never commanded His disciples to make more money and gain political power. The Bible always teaches let God take care of those things and you focus on to love God and people while living a peaceful and diligent life.
2. For the story of David vs. Goliath, you have to know they were in the middle of war. If you?re one of the US soldiers at a battleground which requires physical combats, you have no choice but to fight and kill. So you have to know that they were in a physical combat mode. Also David was not fighting for himself. He was fighting for God. That was exactly why he was able to win. He didn?t need any sword or armors. He only proclaimed the Name of the LORD who Goliath kept blaspheming and used what was in his hand, a sling shot, and still easily could win over the biggest enemy everyone was afraid of. David did kill Goliath, but it was really the Spirit of God that led Israel to the victory.
Since you brought up this story, let me ask you why David refused to fight back against Saul who kept trying to kill David time after time. And why did David just run away from his son, Absalom when he was trying to kill his father, David? David could have just easily killed both of them, but he just kept running away. Why do you think so?
Let?s say your logic is flawed in a way. You don?t need to be a soldier to fight for God.
Look at the previous versus I mentioned.
1 Timothy 6:12: fight the good fight of the faith
Ephesians 6:11
Put the full armor of God, so you can stand against the devil?s schemes.
The verses you quoted are all talking about spiritual fight like I've previously mentioned. What is a spiritual fight? Here is how we can start.
?You have heard that it was said, ?An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.? But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. - Matthew 5:38-39
Jesus keeps on saying how to react to those who attack you. The verses you quoted are pretty much saying this - Be equipped with the Word of God so that you can discern what's right and wrong thus you can choose the right path.
Can you turn the other cheek to the one who slapped you? Can you forgive and love someone who calls you names and mocks you? Have you done it? If so, then yes, you have fought the good fight and stood against the devil's schemes. If not, then you haven't done a good fight at all.
Also, you don't have to answer if you don't want, but I would appreciate if you can explain the question I asked previously, the acts of David running away when Saul and Absalom tried to kill him.
I guess we have different interpretations of the Bible. But I?m not going sit here and let him try to attempt to discredit Christianity. Which he has done with other things. Of course I?m going to say something
morekaos said:All that can be done is pray and try to live your life as close to the path as possible while trying to guide your family. Not an easy way, but the road does lead to better places.
That sounds almost correct. We should surely try as you stated. But one most important thing is that we have to love.
The definition of love is patient and kind, does not boast, is not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love is the only thing that will last and that is the very thing Jesus commands us to do.
That is the only difference of being a Christian because trying to live a good life with guiding family is something everyone, even non-Christians, should do.
@eyephone,
I don't know if morekaos is trying to attack anyone or anything. I'm slow sometimes so help me out if I'm missing something.
All I see from his posts is he is just posting articles that are based on Christianity topic. More like Catholic topics which I think is a heretic religion.
Maybe he's also going with that Halloween spirit as these talk about evils lol.
I don't know if morekaos is trying to attack anyone or anything. I'm slow sometimes so help me out if I'm missing something.
All I see from his posts is he is just posting articles that are based on Christianity topic. More like Catholic topics which I think is a heretic religion.
Maybe he's also going with that Halloween spirit as these talk about evils lol.
...
eyephone said:Another attack on Christianity by you know it.
morekaos said:Bubbling up...
Vatican training more priests while exorcism requests are on the rise
Father Lambert said he is seeing an increase in people wanting to get exorcisms, as well as seeing an increase in priests being trained by the Vatican.
?As faith is in decline, there may be more people who open themselves up to the reality of evil,? Father Lambert said.
https://www.10tv.com/article/vatican-training-more-priests-while-exorcism-requests-are-rise-2019-nov
Mety said:@eyephone,
I don't know if morekaos is trying to attack anyone or anything. I'm slow sometimes so help me out if I'm missing something.
All I see from his posts is he is just posting articles that are based on Christianity topic. More like Catholic topics which I think is a heretic religion.
Maybe he's also going with that Halloween spirit as these talk about evils lol.
We have to fight for Christianity as said in the Bible!!!
1 Timothy 6:12: fight the good fight of the faith
Wow you think Catholics are heretics? Take a look at history they fought for Christianity and Jesus Christ.
eyephone said:Mety said:@eyephone,
I don't know if morekaos is trying to attack anyone or anything. I'm slow sometimes so help me out if I'm missing something.
All I see from his posts is he is just posting articles that are based on Christianity topic. More like Catholic topics which I think is a heretic religion.
Maybe he's also going with that Halloween spirit as these talk about evils lol.
We have to fight for Christianity as said in the Bible!!!
1 Timothy 6:12: fight the good fight of the faith
Yeah, but morekoas is not attacking Christianity though. So no reason to fight, right? Am I missing something?
Mety said:eyephone said:Mety said:@eyephone,
I don't know if morekaos is trying to attack anyone or anything. I'm slow sometimes so help me out if I'm missing something.
All I see from his posts is he is just posting articles that are based on Christianity topic. More like Catholic topics which I think is a heretic religion.
Maybe he's also going with that Halloween spirit as these talk about evils lol.
We have to fight for Christianity as said in the Bible!!!
1 Timothy 6:12: fight the good fight of the faith
Yeah, but morekoas is not attacking Christianity though. So no reason to fight, right? Am I missing something?
He?s highlighting in bold the Faith in decline. I?m not sure if it?s true or not..Maybe you don?t think Catholics are considered Christians that is why.
eyephone said:Wow you think Catholics are heretics? Take a look at history they fought for Christianity and Jesus Christ.
And most of their fight was not really Christian or what Christ would have wanted. They kept fighting for their own benefits including even killing genuine Christ believers. The error with Catholic is they made regulations and traditions based on human desires and set them as if they're God's laws. The same mistake for Judaism and most other religious systems to be honest.
The only fight Christians are supposed to fight is the spiritual fight. We need to stand against motivations, trends, teachings, cultures, or even laws that are against what God says in the Bible. That is not to say start a rebellion or anything as the Bible strictly teaches not to do so. It's that we don't get blended into such wrong systems. It's that regardless of such attacks, we show love and kindness. It's that we keep preaching Christ even if the law says not to do so.
Mety said:eyephone said:Wow you think Catholics are heretics? Take a look at history they fought for Christianity and Jesus Christ.
And most of their fight was not really Christian or what Christ would have wanted. They kept fighting for their own benefits including even killing genuine Christ believers. The error with Catholic is they made regulations and traditions based on human desires and set them as if they're God's laws. The same mistake for Judaism and most other religious systems to be honest.
The only fight Christians are supposed to fight is the spiritual fight. We need to stand against motivations, trends, teachings, cultures, or even laws that are against what God says in the Bible. That is not to say start a rebellion or anything as the Bible strictly teaches not to do so. It's that we don't get blended into such wrong systems. It's that regardless of such attacks, we show love and kindness. It's that we keep preaching Christ even if the law says not to do so.
Placeholder. I will respond later.
Mety said:eyephone said:Wow you think Catholics are heretics? Take a look at history they fought for Christianity and Jesus Christ.
And most of their fight was not really Christian or what Christ would have wanted. They kept fighting for their own benefits including even killing genuine Christ believers. The error with Catholic is they made regulations and traditions based on human desires and set them as if they're God's laws. The same mistake for Judaism and most other religious systems to be honest.
The only fight Christians are supposed to fight is the spiritual fight. We need to stand against motivations, trends, teachings, cultures, or even laws that are against what God says in the Bible. That is not to say start a rebellion or anything as the Bible strictly teaches not to do so. It's that we don't get blended into such wrong systems. It's that regardless of such attacks, we show love and kindness. It's that we keep preaching Christ even if the law says not to do so.
1. I think you should look at previous history regarding Catholics before I respond.
2. Bible teaches many things. But let?s look at David versus Goliath. David did not run away and he had no sword or armor. We all know how the story ended. David won the battle. (I will leave the other parts what David did after he used the sling shot, just in case kids or others read this)
In general, we can try for peaceful resolution, but there are times we have to fight back against evil.
eyephone said:Mety said:eyephone said:Wow you think Catholics are heretics? Take a look at history they fought for Christianity and Jesus Christ.
And most of their fight was not really Christian or what Christ would have wanted. They kept fighting for their own benefits including even killing genuine Christ believers. The error with Catholic is they made regulations and traditions based on human desires and set them as if they're God's laws. The same mistake for Judaism and most other religious systems to be honest.
The only fight Christians are supposed to fight is the spiritual fight. We need to stand against motivations, trends, teachings, cultures, or even laws that are against what God says in the Bible. That is not to say start a rebellion or anything as the Bible strictly teaches not to do so. It's that we don't get blended into such wrong systems. It's that regardless of such attacks, we show love and kindness. It's that we keep preaching Christ even if the law says not to do so.
1. I think you should look at previous history regarding Catholics before I respond.
2. Bible teaches many things. But let?s look at David versus Goliath. David did not run away and he had no sword or armor. We all know how the story ended. David won the battle. (I will leave the other parts what David did after he used the sling shot, just in case kids or others read this)
In general, we can try for peaceful resolution, but there are times we have to fight back against evil.
1. Once you start adding or taking out things from the Scriptures, you?re heretic no matter what religious system you?re in. Catholic, Judaism, or even Christianity, they all could be heretic if they don?t keep the Word of God as is. God gave us this book, The Holy Bible as a COMPLETE and ONLY revelation of His will to the humanity. That was the exact reason Christianity had to reform from the apostate Catholic system which the church fathers had to sacrifice even their lives for. Up to even today, Catholic religion has so many false regulations added to their system (including demon casting for morekaos) to the point where even Jesus becomes not the only way to salvation and that is exactly opposite of what Jesus taught. The reason they added things was really to make more money and power for themselves pretty much. Jesus never commanded His disciples to make more money and gain political power. The Bible always teaches let God take care of those things and you focus on to love God and people while living a peaceful and diligent life.
2. For the story of David vs. Goliath, you have to know they were in the middle of war. If you?re one of the US soldiers at a battleground which requires physical combats, you have no choice but to fight and kill. So you have to know that they were in a physical combat mode. Also David was not fighting for himself. He was fighting for God. That was exactly why he was able to win. He didn?t need any sword or armors. He only proclaimed the Name of the LORD who Goliath kept blaspheming and used what was in his hand, a sling shot, and still easily could win over the biggest enemy everyone was afraid of. David did kill Goliath, but it was really the Spirit of God that led Israel to the victory.
Since you brought up this story, let me ask you why David refused to fight back against Saul who kept trying to kill David time after time. And why did David just run away from his son, Absalom when he was trying to kill his father, David? David could have just easily killed both of them, but he just kept running away. Why do you think so?
Mety said:eyephone said:Mety said:eyephone said:Wow you think Catholics are heretics? Take a look at history they fought for Christianity and Jesus Christ.
And most of their fight was not really Christian or what Christ would have wanted. They kept fighting for their own benefits including even killing genuine Christ believers. The error with Catholic is they made regulations and traditions based on human desires and set them as if they're God's laws. The same mistake for Judaism and most other religious systems to be honest.
The only fight Christians are supposed to fight is the spiritual fight. We need to stand against motivations, trends, teachings, cultures, or even laws that are against what God says in the Bible. That is not to say start a rebellion or anything as the Bible strictly teaches not to do so. It's that we don't get blended into such wrong systems. It's that regardless of such attacks, we show love and kindness. It's that we keep preaching Christ even if the law says not to do so.
1. I think you should look at previous history regarding Catholics before I respond.
2. Bible teaches many things. But let?s look at David versus Goliath. David did not run away and he had no sword or armor. We all know how the story ended. David won the battle. (I will leave the other parts what David did after he used the sling shot, just in case kids or others read this)
In general, we can try for peaceful resolution, but there are times we have to fight back against evil.
1. Once you start adding or taking out things from the Scriptures, you?re heretic no matter what religious system you?re in. Catholic, Judaism, or even Christianity, they all could be heretic if they don?t keep the Word of God as is. God gave us this book, The Holy Bible as a COMPLETE and ONLY revelation of His will to the humanity. That was the exact reason Christianity had to reform from the apostate Catholic system which the church fathers had to sacrifice even their lives for. Up to even today, Catholic religion has so many false regulations added to their system (including demon casting for morekaos) to the point where even Jesus becomes not the only way to salvation and that is exactly opposite of what Jesus taught. The reason they added things was really to make more money and power for themselves pretty much. Jesus never commanded His disciples to make more money and gain political power. The Bible always teaches let God take care of those things and you focus on to love God and people while living a peaceful and diligent life.
2. For the story of David vs. Goliath, you have to know they were in the middle of war. If you?re one of the US soldiers at a battleground which requires physical combats, you have no choice but to fight and kill. So you have to know that they were in a physical combat mode. Also David was not fighting for himself. He was fighting for God. That was exactly why he was able to win. He didn?t need any sword or armors. He only proclaimed the Name of the LORD who Goliath kept blaspheming and used what was in his hand, a sling shot, and still easily could win over the biggest enemy everyone was afraid of. David did kill Goliath, but it was really the Spirit of God that led Israel to the victory.
Since you brought up this story, let me ask you why David refused to fight back against Saul who kept trying to kill David time after time. And why did David just run away from his son, Absalom when he was trying to kill his father, David? David could have just easily killed both of them, but he just kept running away. Why do you think so?
Let?s say your logic is flawed in a way. You don?t need to be a soldier to fight for God.
Look at the previous versus I mentioned.
1 Timothy 6:12: fight the good fight of the faith
Ephesians 6:11
Put the full armor of God, so you can stand against the devil?s schemes.
eyephone said:Mety said:eyephone said:Mety said:eyephone said:Wow you think Catholics are heretics? Take a look at history they fought for Christianity and Jesus Christ.
And most of their fight was not really Christian or what Christ would have wanted. They kept fighting for their own benefits including even killing genuine Christ believers. The error with Catholic is they made regulations and traditions based on human desires and set them as if they're God's laws. The same mistake for Judaism and most other religious systems to be honest.
The only fight Christians are supposed to fight is the spiritual fight. We need to stand against motivations, trends, teachings, cultures, or even laws that are against what God says in the Bible. That is not to say start a rebellion or anything as the Bible strictly teaches not to do so. It's that we don't get blended into such wrong systems. It's that regardless of such attacks, we show love and kindness. It's that we keep preaching Christ even if the law says not to do so.
1. I think you should look at previous history regarding Catholics before I respond.
2. Bible teaches many things. But let?s look at David versus Goliath. David did not run away and he had no sword or armor. We all know how the story ended. David won the battle. (I will leave the other parts what David did after he used the sling shot, just in case kids or others read this)
In general, we can try for peaceful resolution, but there are times we have to fight back against evil.
1. Once you start adding or taking out things from the Scriptures, you?re heretic no matter what religious system you?re in. Catholic, Judaism, or even Christianity, they all could be heretic if they don?t keep the Word of God as is. God gave us this book, The Holy Bible as a COMPLETE and ONLY revelation of His will to the humanity. That was the exact reason Christianity had to reform from the apostate Catholic system which the church fathers had to sacrifice even their lives for. Up to even today, Catholic religion has so many false regulations added to their system (including demon casting for morekaos) to the point where even Jesus becomes not the only way to salvation and that is exactly opposite of what Jesus taught. The reason they added things was really to make more money and power for themselves pretty much. Jesus never commanded His disciples to make more money and gain political power. The Bible always teaches let God take care of those things and you focus on to love God and people while living a peaceful and diligent life.
2. For the story of David vs. Goliath, you have to know they were in the middle of war. If you?re one of the US soldiers at a battleground which requires physical combats, you have no choice but to fight and kill. So you have to know that they were in a physical combat mode. Also David was not fighting for himself. He was fighting for God. That was exactly why he was able to win. He didn?t need any sword or armors. He only proclaimed the Name of the LORD who Goliath kept blaspheming and used what was in his hand, a sling shot, and still easily could win over the biggest enemy everyone was afraid of. David did kill Goliath, but it was really the Spirit of God that led Israel to the victory.
Since you brought up this story, let me ask you why David refused to fight back against Saul who kept trying to kill David time after time. And why did David just run away from his son, Absalom when he was trying to kill his father, David? David could have just easily killed both of them, but he just kept running away. Why do you think so?
Let?s say your logic is flawed in a way. You don?t need to be a soldier to fight for God.
Look at the previous versus I mentioned.
1 Timothy 6:12: fight the good fight of the faith
Ephesians 6:11
Put the full armor of God, so you can stand against the devil?s schemes.
The verses you quoted are all talking about spiritual fight like I've previously mentioned. What is a spiritual fight? Here is how we can start.
?You have heard that it was said, ?An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.? But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. - Matthew 5:38-39
Jesus keeps on saying how to react to those who attack you. The verses you quoted are pretty much saying this - Be equipped with the Word of God so that you can discern what's right and wrong thus you can choose the right path.
Can you turn the other cheek to the one who slapped you? Can you forgive and love someone who calls you names and mocks you? Have you done it? If so, then yes, you have fought the good fight and stood against the devil's schemes. If not, then you haven't done a good fight at all.
Also, you don't have to answer if you don't want, but I would appreciate if you can explain the question I asked previously, the acts of David running away when Saul and Absalom tried to kill him.
Mety said:eyephone said:Mety said:eyephone said:Mety said:eyephone said:Wow you think Catholics are heretics? Take a look at history they fought for Christianity and Jesus Christ.
And most of their fight was not really Christian or what Christ would have wanted. They kept fighting for their own benefits including even killing genuine Christ believers. The error with Catholic is they made regulations and traditions based on human desires and set them as if they're God's laws. The same mistake for Judaism and most other religious systems to be honest.
The only fight Christians are supposed to fight is the spiritual fight. We need to stand against motivations, trends, teachings, cultures, or even laws that are against what God says in the Bible. That is not to say start a rebellion or anything as the Bible strictly teaches not to do so. It's that we don't get blended into such wrong systems. It's that regardless of such attacks, we show love and kindness. It's that we keep preaching Christ even if the law says not to do so.
1. I think you should look at previous history regarding Catholics before I respond.
2. Bible teaches many things. But let?s look at David versus Goliath. David did not run away and he had no sword or armor. We all know how the story ended. David won the battle. (I will leave the other parts what David did after he used the sling shot, just in case kids or others read this)
In general, we can try for peaceful resolution, but there are times we have to fight back against evil.
1. Once you start adding or taking out things from the Scriptures, you?re heretic no matter what religious system you?re in. Catholic, Judaism, or even Christianity, they all could be heretic if they don?t keep the Word of God as is. God gave us this book, The Holy Bible as a COMPLETE and ONLY revelation of His will to the humanity. That was the exact reason Christianity had to reform from the apostate Catholic system which the church fathers had to sacrifice even their lives for. Up to even today, Catholic religion has so many false regulations added to their system (including demon casting for morekaos) to the point where even Jesus becomes not the only way to salvation and that is exactly opposite of what Jesus taught. The reason they added things was really to make more money and power for themselves pretty much. Jesus never commanded His disciples to make more money and gain political power. The Bible always teaches let God take care of those things and you focus on to love God and people while living a peaceful and diligent life.
2. For the story of David vs. Goliath, you have to know they were in the middle of war. If you?re one of the US soldiers at a battleground which requires physical combats, you have no choice but to fight and kill. So you have to know that they were in a physical combat mode. Also David was not fighting for himself. He was fighting for God. That was exactly why he was able to win. He didn?t need any sword or armors. He only proclaimed the Name of the LORD who Goliath kept blaspheming and used what was in his hand, a sling shot, and still easily could win over the biggest enemy everyone was afraid of. David did kill Goliath, but it was really the Spirit of God that led Israel to the victory.
Since you brought up this story, let me ask you why David refused to fight back against Saul who kept trying to kill David time after time. And why did David just run away from his son, Absalom when he was trying to kill his father, David? David could have just easily killed both of them, but he just kept running away. Why do you think so?
Let?s say your logic is flawed in a way. You don?t need to be a soldier to fight for God.
Look at the previous versus I mentioned.
1 Timothy 6:12: fight the good fight of the faith
Ephesians 6:11
Put the full armor of God, so you can stand against the devil?s schemes.
The verses you quoted are all talking about spiritual fight like I've previously mentioned. What is a spiritual fight? Here is how we can start.
?You have heard that it was said, ?An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.? But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. - Matthew 5:38-39
Jesus keeps on saying how to react to those who attack you. The verses you quoted are pretty much saying this - Be equipped with the Word of God so that you can discern what's right and wrong thus you can choose the right path.
Can you turn the other cheek to the one who slapped you? Can you forgive and love someone who calls you names and mocks you? Have you done it? If so, then yes, you have fought the good fight and stood against the devil's schemes. If not, then you haven't done a good fight at all.
Also, you don't have to answer if you don't want, but I would appreciate if you can explain the question I asked previously, the acts of David running away when Saul and Absalom tried to kill him.
I guess we have different interpretations of the Bible. But I?m not going sit here and let him try to attempt to discredit Christianity. Which he has done with other things. Of course I?m going to say something
If you really believe Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation, then you are already in the army of God. So technically, you are a soldier who fights for God all the time. And those fights are not on your own strength. All you can do is to know what the head of the army commands. The head of the army is Jesus and He commands to love and forgive. That is the strategy we fight with. The punishment job to the enemy belongs to God alone. That has always been the way for God even since from the Old Testament times. Israel never won a single battle on their own. It was always God who destroyed the enemies. The same thing is even today. We don't fight on our own. We keep knowing God by His Words and know what He commands daily. That is our duty. That is what it means to walk with God.
And sure, there comes times we need to speak up, stand up, or even shout aloud in the face of enemies, but even then the victory is not determined by our own strength. It is always by God Himself alone. He will work through us who have the Holy Spirit. There is though a sin we should not allow. That is a sin that denies Jesus as the only way to salvation. That is something we should not tolerate as God doesn't forgive that sin either.
Now eyephone, I don't know how you interpret the Bible, but you seem to call yourself a Jesus believer or a Christian. I can deal with having different interpretations here and there as we walk different phases spiritually. I myself could be wrong time to time so I won't force you to believe what I believe. Only the Holy Spirit can let us know the right thing anyways. But if I were you, I would check who you are fighting with. Maybe those people you are fighting are Christians also. Having different ideas or beliefs doesn't make them enemies. The only enemy of ours is Satan. I do respect your opinions and knowledge in many areas. You're definitely someone way smarter than myself. But as far as interpreting the Bible, we should start doing so by putting Jesus as the pivotal point all the time. We should also ask The Holy Spirit who guides us to know the Scripture correctly. It's a good practice which you might already be doing. And for the record, I'm not discrediting Christianity. In fact, I'm trying to stay as pure as how it's said in the Bible as much as I can throughout these discussions.
And sure, there comes times we need to speak up, stand up, or even shout aloud in the face of enemies, but even then the victory is not determined by our own strength. It is always by God Himself alone. He will work through us who have the Holy Spirit. There is though a sin we should not allow. That is a sin that denies Jesus as the only way to salvation. That is something we should not tolerate as God doesn't forgive that sin either.
Now eyephone, I don't know how you interpret the Bible, but you seem to call yourself a Jesus believer or a Christian. I can deal with having different interpretations here and there as we walk different phases spiritually. I myself could be wrong time to time so I won't force you to believe what I believe. Only the Holy Spirit can let us know the right thing anyways. But if I were you, I would check who you are fighting with. Maybe those people you are fighting are Christians also. Having different ideas or beliefs doesn't make them enemies. The only enemy of ours is Satan. I do respect your opinions and knowledge in many areas. You're definitely someone way smarter than myself. But as far as interpreting the Bible, we should start doing so by putting Jesus as the pivotal point all the time. We should also ask The Holy Spirit who guides us to know the Scripture correctly. It's a good practice which you might already be doing. And for the record, I'm not discrediting Christianity. In fact, I'm trying to stay as pure as how it's said in the Bible as much as I can throughout these discussions.
But you previously said you have to be a US soldier. The yards and goal post are like changing.
Mety said:If you really believe Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation, then you are already in the army of God. So technically, you are a soldier who fights for God all the time. And those fights are not on your own strength. All you can do is to know what the head of the army commands. The head of the army is Jesus and He commands to love and forgive. That is the strategy we fight with. The punishment job to the enemy belongs to God alone. That has always been the way for God even since from the Old Testament times. Israel never won a single battle on their own. It was always God who destroyed the enemies. The same thing is even today. We don't fight on our own. We keep knowing God by His Words and know what He commands daily. That is our duty. That is what it means to walk with God.
And sure, there comes times we need to speak up, stand up, or even shout aloud in the face of enemies, but even then the victory is not determined by our own strength. It is always by God Himself alone. He will work through us who have the Holy Spirit. There is though a sin we should not allow. That is a sin that denies Jesus as the only way to salvation. That is something we should not tolerate as God doesn't forgive that sin either.
Now eyephone, I don't know how you interpret the Bible, but you seem to call yourself a Jesus believer or a Christian. I can deal with having different interpretations here and there as we walk different phases spiritually. I myself could be wrong time to time so I won't force you to believe what I believe. Only the Holy Spirit can let us know the right thing anyways. But if I were you, I would check who you are fighting with. Maybe those people you are fighting are Christians also. Having different ideas or beliefs doesn't make them enemies. The only enemy of ours is Satan. I do respect your opinions and knowledge in many areas. You're definitely someone way smarter than myself. But as far as interpreting the Bible, we should start doing so by putting Jesus as the pivotal point all the time. We should also ask The Holy Spirit who guides us to know the Scripture correctly. It's a good practice which you might already be doing. And for the record, I'm not discrediting Christianity. In fact, I'm trying to stay as pure as how it's said in the Bible as much as I can throughout these discussions.
That was an example of being in an actually combat battlefield since you brought up David vs. Goliath story. I wasn't saying you have to be the US soldier to be saved....
Nothing has changed as far as my point. My point is it was not David who won the battle, it was God. We don't win. God wins and we celebrate on His side.
Nothing has changed as far as my point. My point is it was not David who won the battle, it was God. We don't win. God wins and we celebrate on His side.
eyephone said:But you previously said you have to be a US soldier. The yards and goal post are like changing.
Mety said:If you really believe Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation, then you are already in the army of God. So technically, you are a soldier who fights for God all the time. And those fights are not on your own strength. All you can do is to know what the head of the army commands. The head of the army is Jesus and He commands to love and forgive. That is the strategy we fight with. The punishment job to the enemy belongs to God alone. That has always been the way for God even since from the Old Testament times. Israel never won a single battle on their own. It was always God who destroyed the enemies. The same thing is even today. We don't fight on our own. We keep knowing God by His Words and know what He commands daily. That is our duty. That is what it means to walk with God.
And sure, there comes times we need to speak up, stand up, or even shout aloud in the face of enemies, but even then the victory is not determined by our own strength. It is always by God Himself alone. He will work through us who have the Holy Spirit. There is though a sin we should not allow. That is a sin that denies Jesus as the only way to salvation. That is something we should not tolerate as God doesn't forgive that sin either.
Now eyephone, I don't know how you interpret the Bible, but you seem to call yourself a Jesus believer or a Christian. I can deal with having different interpretations here and there as we walk different phases spiritually. I myself could be wrong time to time so I won't force you to believe what I believe. Only the Holy Spirit can let us know the right thing anyways. But if I were you, I would check who you are fighting with. Maybe those people you are fighting are Christians also. Having different ideas or beliefs doesn't make them enemies. The only enemy of ours is Satan. I do respect your opinions and knowledge in many areas. You're definitely someone way smarter than myself. But as far as interpreting the Bible, we should start doing so by putting Jesus as the pivotal point all the time. We should also ask The Holy Spirit who guides us to know the Scripture correctly. It's a good practice which you might already be doing. And for the record, I'm not discrediting Christianity. In fact, I'm trying to stay as pure as how it's said in the Bible as much as I can throughout these discussions.
I appreciate your thoughts and views. However I respectfully believe I am correct. To be honest I did nothing wrong. I spread the gospel and fought for the faith. (It?s like totally textbook. As you would say: maybe the Holy Spirit told me to stick up for the faith of God. Don?t let them normalize to bring down the faith.)
Just to let you know there are many great warriors in the Bible. So don?t do a disservice and say otherwise. If your not telling the total truth then your lying or something. Trust me I know what I?m talking about.
Just to let you know there are many great warriors in the Bible. So don?t do a disservice and say otherwise. If your not telling the total truth then your lying or something. Trust me I know what I?m talking about.
Mety said:If you really believe Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation, then you are already in the army of God. So technically, you are a soldier who fights for God all the time. And those fights are not on your own strength. All you can do is to know what the head of the army commands. The head of the army is Jesus and He commands to love and forgive. That is the strategy we fight with. The punishment job to the enemy belongs to God alone. That has always been the way for God even since from the Old Testament times. Israel never won a single battle on their own. It was always God who destroyed the enemies. The same thing is even today. We don't fight on our own. We keep knowing God by His Words and know what He commands daily. That is our duty. That is what it means to walk with God.
And sure, there comes times we need to speak up, stand up, or even shout aloud in the face of enemies, but even then the victory is not determined by our own strength. It is always by God Himself alone. He will work through us who have the Holy Spirit. There is though a sin we should not allow. That is a sin that denies Jesus as the only way to salvation. That is something we should not tolerate as God doesn't forgive that sin either.
Now eyephone, I don't know how you interpret the Bible, but you seem to call yourself a Jesus believer or a Christian. I can deal with having different interpretations here and there as we walk different phases spiritually. I myself could be wrong time to time so I won't force you to believe what I believe. Only the Holy Spirit can let us know the right thing anyways. But if I were you, I would check who you are fighting with. Maybe those people you are fighting are Christians also. Having different ideas or beliefs doesn't make them enemies. The only enemy of ours is Satan. I do respect your opinions and knowledge in many areas. You're definitely someone way smarter than myself. But as far as interpreting the Bible, we should start doing so by putting Jesus as the pivotal point all the time. We should also ask The Holy Spirit who guides us to know the Scripture correctly. It's a good practice which you might already be doing. And for the record, I'm not discrediting Christianity. In fact, I'm trying to stay as pure as how it's said in the Bible as much as I can throughout these discussions.