These are all view lots, so it's not that outrageous.Still over $1000 per sqft.
First of all, the houses themselves only take up about 1700 sq ft since it's a two story home, you know? And these lots are quite a bit larger than 4000 sq ft. Only a couple of them are 4400 sq ft. Others are 4800 sq ft or larger, like 5400 sq ft all the way up to 7000 sq ft.When you built 3000 sqft house out of 4000 sqft lot, what is left outside the house?
These price drops were huge and unprecedented for a homebuilder in Irvine. I don't recall ever seeing the builder drop prices so much in dollars (and maybe even in terms of percent). The prices are still a lot but they are not out of line with what things are selling for (and maybe even a "deal" for a new construction view home).These are all view lots, so it's not that outrageous.
Well there is also garage, driveway, front yard and side yard. Also wall has thickness.First of all, the houses themselves only take up about 1700 sq ft since it's a two story home, you know? And these lots are quite a bit larger than 4000 sq ft. Only a couple of them are 4400 sq ft. Others are 4800 sq ft or larger, like 5400 sq ft all the way up to 7000 sq ft.
For your reference, a lot of the Olivewood homes are built on 3600 sq ft lots.
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Most of the Cielo homes do have 20+ ft setback. Only the ones smaller than 4700 sq ft lots don't. My plan 1 sits on a 5100 sq ft lot and the setback is 21 ft from the wall closest to the backwall and 30 ft from the wall further away from the backwall. My lot is slight V shape, which means the sideyards get bigger toward the back, so that's taking up some space. If it were a rectangular lot, then 4700 sq ft would have made 20+ ft setback. The smallest lot in the community, 4200+ sq ft, has a 15 ft setback.Well there is also garage, driveway, front yard and side yard. Also wall has thickness.
I usually look at the rear setback. I don't think any $2M+ home should have less than a 20 ft setback, but clearly plenty of wealthy buyers disagree...
I would rather have a L-shaped floor plan than a 12ft wide back yard strip.
Well there is also garage, driveway, front yard and side yard. Also wall has thickness.
I usually look at the rear setback. I don't think any $2M+ home should have less than a 20 ft setback, but clearly plenty of wealthy buyers disagree...
I would rather have a L-shaped floor plan than a 12ft wide back yard strip.