I have a few MD family members - physician compensation is on a negative slope. I play golf with a recently semi-retired OBGYN and at the age of 65 he said it was the first time he was able to relax (due not having to be on call anymore) since before residency. The flip side is he's semi-retied because he loves what he does.
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A good CA CC is an automatic path to a good UC or USC with a 3.5+ if one is not happy with where they were admitted out of HS and absolutely crave staying in CA at a well respected school, but missing out on 2 years of making college friends is a steep price to pay. On the other hand if academic skills need sharpening to succeed in a college curriculum it's the right path. I have a HS buddy, probably the most popular guy in our class and a multi sport athlete that had all the EQ in the world but mediocre grades and SAT so he did 2 years at CC, got into UCLA and ended up graduating from law school.Yeah... both paths can be good depending on the student.
To stay vague... I went in with one major, added another, dropped the original and added a minor.... so I really didn't know what I wanted either until I took that weeder/intro class for the major I added. I was hooked from there and probably could have saved a year or two in college had I focused on that one major because those classes were fun. Was not many classes away from the turning the minor into a 2nd major but had to start working.
I don't think CC would have been good for me because where we lived, those CCs were basically high school extensions... and uh... not very safe.
For my kids... I think CC would be better but what do I/they know.
morekaos
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I come from a family of doctors, sisters, nieces nephews, and my mother was one of the first female anesthesiologist in California. Harvard educated. I wouldn’t choose that profession out of greed. You really have to have a passion. I had tons of friends at UCLA medical school, and all of them said I wouldn’t have made it on greed alone My kids wouldn’t do it for the money, they’re not like their dad. 😆😆😆
irvinehomeowner
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I should probably poll this but in your adult life... are your friends from HS, college or work/after college?
It's interesting because I have a smattering of all but my closest friends are probably from college... which speaks to the value of the 4-year college program.
But who knows... maybe I would have made close friends at my hoody CC.
It's interesting because I have a smattering of all but my closest friends are probably from college... which speaks to the value of the 4-year college program.
But who knows... maybe I would have made close friends at my hoody CC.
a couple from HS, the closest from the neighborhood, college and right after. Sadly most are or are in process of getting divorced.I should probably poll this but in your adult life... are your friends from HS, college or work/after college?
It's interesting because I have a smattering of all but my closest friends are probably from college... which speaks to the value of the 4-year college program.
But who knows... maybe I would have made close friends at my hoody CC.
CogNeuroSci
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Lots of choices for your daughter. Thank God your kids aren't like you!
Lol very unfortunate kids. Cant imagine having a dad like him. Must be pretty f@cked up for them sadly. No wonder you hear in the news once in a while that a kid goes postal on the parents.
CogNeuroSci
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Nah, TI wouldn't be the same without morekaos. Free speech is free speech. Can't have it both ways. Could you imagine morekaos or even the rest of us living in North Korea or Russia?
irvinehomeowner
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But will they be happy? Or aware of the way science and society works?
Give and take bro, give and take.
ThirtySomethingWEquity
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I don’t understand what the current argument is about? Should we go back to shitting on college?
CogNeuroSci
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I'd like to see this broken down by race.
CogNeuroSci
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I have to back up calbears96 here. UC's have enormous resources to be utilized by the motivated student who transcends his/her classmates. But, true, there's very few who are mature enough at age 19-21 to take advantage of the resources.
morekaos
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honestly, that’s their problem they’ve been given every advantage. It’s their responsibility to make their way. I’m fairly confident they will.But will they be happy? Or aware of the way science and society works?
Give and take bro, give and take.
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Loco_local
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Race and ethnicity of UC applicants from California high schools
Share of applicants of each race or ethnicity group who were admitted and share of admits who enrolled for the 2022 fall semester. (not broken down by gpa/test scores)
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Liar Loan
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You're projecting your own childhood onto mk.
irvinehomeowner
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I think it's official... my kid has committed... to being a beauty school dropout for at least one year.
UC Santa McDonald's or bust!
UC Santa McDonald's or bust!
Agree that there are definitely better professions out there for making money.
My wife is a general surgeon at a well regarded hospital in the area and works much harder than I do (an IC software engineer). A lot more hours with odd shifts thrown in. That being said, it's way better now than it was during residency. During residency, on her best days, she got about as much sleep as I do on a bad day. Her income looks good on paper to the average person of course, but it's still considerably lower than my tech W-2. It seems people on the outside completely ignore or under-appreciate that doctors/surgeons only start making "real" money after years of crushing medical school and residency. People also fail to realize that it isn't all glamorous like the movies make it out to be: there's soul crushing paperwork and oftentimes real sacrifices to your family/personal life (especially during training).
By the time she became an attending, I'd already saved/invested for over a decade, saw the world by requesting transfers to my employers' offices abroad in Europe+Asia and enjoyed some of the best years of my life. During that time, she was in med school/residency, staving off burnout, and now left with a mountain of sutdent debt to pay back. She loves her job and doesn't regret picking the career one bit, but there's no way it's worth it if doing it only from a financial standpoint. It's possible to go into private practice, which is a lot more lucrative, but the reality is that running a business takes away from doing medicine, and even then, it's not clear you'd ever catch up financially to someone whose done reasonably well in tech/finance (and almost certainly worked way less hard than you).
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