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Have 2 separate friends that have lived in Seattle, they say the weather is depressing so it's interesting it made #15.

Isn't Fremont even more expensive than Irvine?
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Have 2 separate friends that have lived in Seattle, they say the weather is depressing so it's interesting it made #15.

Isn't Fremont even more expensive than Irvine?
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I don't think Fremont is more expensive than Irvine. And Fremont is quite a bit cheaper than the Santa Clara County cities to the south, but commuting to San Jose for work is a pain though.
 
CalBears96 said:
I don't think Fremont is more expensive than Irvine. And Fremont is quite a bit cheaper than the Santa Clara County cities to the south, but commuting to San Jose for work is a pain though.
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Slightly more expensive. Per Gemini:
  • Fremont (Q1 2026): Recent median price per square foot ranges between $850 and $926.
  • Irvine (Q1 2026): Recent median price per square foot ranges between $810 and $832.
Fremont has the #1 high school in CA, Mission San Jose.they dropped football years ago but made a crazy run to a CCS hoops championship this year. It’s so competitive academically it has its own real estate market compared to the other high schools. Fremont for Indians is like Irvine for Chinese - Hindu temples, cricket fields, Indian stores/restaurants - center of Indian culture in the Bay Area.
 
Thanks @OCtoSV. I think I remember you saying that there are several NorCal areas that are as or even more expensive than Irvine. All that Silicon Valley money.

I remember Los Gatos being nice in an OC way.
 
Los Gatos is like Newport - where the white people (mostly) live. One of my best friends I made living up there is a local, played QB at LGHS and bought his parent’s single level 4 br pad with a yard and pool
In the early 90s in a very sweet prop 13 deal. Lots of those kinds of owners in LG. Saratoga and Los Altos and Cupertino are where Asian ballers want to be. Some parts of Sunnyvale. Menlo Park, Palo Alto, Hillsborough, Portola Valley are rarified. And we haven’t even touched on stupidity rich Marin County towns like Belvedere or Ross.
 
OCtoSV said:
Slightly more expensive. Per Gemini:
  • Fremont (Q1 2026): Recent median price per square foot ranges between $850 and $926.
  • Irvine (Q1 2026): Recent median price per square foot ranges between $810 and $832.
Fremont has the #1 high school in CA, Mission San Jose.they dropped football years ago but made a crazy run to a CCS hoops championship this year. It’s so competitive academically it has its own real estate market compared to the other high schools. Fremont for Indians is like Irvine for Chinese - Hindu temples, cricket fields, Indian stores/restaurants - center of Indian culture in the Bay Area.
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A theory- Fremont’s renter rate is significantly lower than Irvine's renter rate. Could that have helped Fremont in these rankings? Sure renting may not necessarily make someone unhappy automatically but outside of a few exceptions (someone who has plenty of savings for a down payment and can afford to buy in an expensive area like Fremont or Irvine but chooses to rent), odds are if you are renting in these places for the school district, life isn’t better than owning in my opinion. Rental stock is not great, rent would keep increasing, finances would be tight, etc.

But specifically on Fremont- it’s subjective but I would take Irvine’s weather over Fremont. Access to the beach is better in Irvine. Food is a tie. Schools despite the rankings does not move the needle that much. But agreed that Mission San Jose is top ranked. End of the day you have similar cultures- parents who care and schools with resources.

Much easier to live and work in Irvine though which means you could have a 10-20 min commute. In Fremont, if you are going into the office while there are some jobs there odds are people are commuting an hour one way. This affects your quality of life. What’s the point of paying $2-3MM for a home but you commute an hour one way to go to work. Once you are back from work you will be tired to do the things that you enjoy in life. If you could live in Irvine and work in Irvine/Newport beach which has plenty of high paying white collar jobs, you have hit the jackpot.
 
ravi said:
A theory- Fremont’s renter rate is significantly lower than Irvine's renter rate. Could that have helped Fremont in these rankings? Sure renting may not necessarily make someone unhappy automatically but outside of a few exceptions (someone who has plenty of savings for a down payment and can afford to buy in an expensive area like Fremont or Irvine but chooses to rent), odds are if you are renting in these places for the school district, life isn’t better than owning in my opinion. Rental stock is not great, rent would keep increasing, finances would be tight, etc.

But specifically on Fremont- it’s subjective but I would take Irvine’s weather over Fremont. Access to the beach is better in Irvine. Food is a tie. Schools despite the rankings does not move the needle that much. But agreed that Mission San Jose is top ranked. End of the day you have similar cultures- parents who care and schools with resources.

Much easier to live and work in Irvine though which means you could have a 10-20 min commute. In Fremont, if you are going into the office while there are some jobs there odds are people are commuting an hour one way. This affects your quality of life. What’s the point of paying $2-3MM for a home but you commute an hour one way to go to work. Once you are back from work you will be tired to do the things that you enjoy in life. If you could live in Irvine and work in Irvine/Newport beach which has plenty of high paying white collar jobs, you have hit the jackpot.
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One little difference: there are 100x the number of $200K+ jobs near Fremont compared to Irvine. I moved back to South OC from San Jose for lifestyle but stil commute for my job because the streets of Santa Clara and San Mateo Counties are paved with gold.
 
ravi said:
A theory- Fremont’s renter rate is significantly lower than Irvine's renter rate. Could that have helped Fremont in these rankings? Sure renting may not necessarily make someone unhappy automatically but outside of a few exceptions (someone who has plenty of savings for a down payment and can afford to buy in an expensive area like Fremont or Irvine but chooses to rent), odds are if you are renting in these places for the school district, life isn’t better than owning in my opinion. Rental stock is not great, rent would keep increasing, finances would be tight, etc.
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Renters are paying half as much as owners to live and don't have down payment money tied up in an asset that is losing to inflation (Irvine homes for the past four years) so renters are probably not the drag on happiness that you suspect.
 
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