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Round Table is the best pizza ever - it is one of the reasons I am happy to be back in CA!

<p>Didn't that dog food case have a bit more to it? I am more concerned with the regular yearly salary of police, firefighters, paramedics, etc. than with the aberation. It is in all our best interest to ensure that quality people will continue to go into these professions and the ONLY way to...

<p>No, we pay IPDO 90k a year to put their lives on the line protecting us - to be there when we need help. Sorry, but I just cannot keep my mouth shut when it comes to the salaries of our public servants - they should not be taken for granted - ever. </p>

<p>The police are doing their job - if the law is don't park then there is no reason to complain about the police - complain about the people who made the rule. I believe we should all be grateful that we live in a country where we have police, firefighters, paramedics, etc., etc. I know I...

Wow - I didn't realize that in Irvine you HAD to use your garage - where I grew up a bit north of here NOBODY uses their garage for cars - only storage - since there isn't any storage in CA houses. Just one more reason I won't be paying outrageous prices to live in houses where I don't even...

Thanks no such reality - very helpful! Obviously there is more to rental prices that I have yet to understand!

I still have a hard time imagining spending 400,000 on an 1200 sq foot apt. - hopefully the SFH will start dropping faster soon!

I understand that most would agree there is still farther down to go - but it was interesting for me to find something in Irvine that I could buy and get pretty close to saving money on rent - granted, in this market I don't want to put any of my savings down on a house - maybe I need a no money...

<p>I just was doing a quick search on condos in Woodbridge (which is where we want to buy eventually). I checked rentals for a 3 bed around 1200 sq feet rent it about 2200 - 2500. 2500 X 160 would be 400,000 and I noticed that there actually are condos in Woodbridge with 3 bedrooms listed at...

I don't get it - how can you say that someone making 170 thousand can afford an 800,000 home. Even *if* you had 20 percent down the monthly outlay for that would be almost 5000 a month. I guess if you never want to vacation, buy clothes for your kids and eat spam every night then it is...

<p>The social skills that are important later on in the business world are not necessarily the ones that kids learn in high school friendships and cliques - things such as negotiation, understanding another persons point of view, managing people through positive feedback, getting used to...

<p>hmmm - wonder if it is true - I am at least going to check these new homes out - you never know - perhaps the govt will decide to buy everyone in the united states the house of their dreams - now that would be a good bailout! </p> <p>Seems like most likely there are no good values...

<p>oooh - didn't know there was a newcomers club - that sounds interesting!!! I will have to check that out! thanks!</p>

<p>Trooper - I know I know!!!! Don't buy, don't buy!!!! At least we can look and dream for awhile - and be prepared to pounce - right! :)</p> <p>good idea momipi! I do have to say that right now we are in a smaller apt complex - 200 apts or so - and it is nice to not share the pool with...

<p>thanks irvine123!</p> <p>calgal - we are looking to buy eventually - just not sure when!! We are trying to take our time now to decide where we want to live in Irvine - we really like woodbridge but I am going to check out this lagoon at woodbury - I keep hearing that perhaps new homes...

<p>I am amazed by how much everyone on here knows about the new home developments in Irvine! We are very attracted to Woodbridge because of the swimming lagoons for the kids - does anyone know if any of the new homes have swimming amenities that are in any way comparable to the lagoons...

<p>Is IAC the Irvine Company property - you cut a deal with them on rent - can that be done??</p>

<p>We are already at that point - people who have good credit and have cash for down payment are choosing to rent because that is the only reasonable choice out there.</p> <p>In my mind it can only go two ways - either prices go down substantially and the only deduction from that is that this...

<p>Someone mentioned the Irvine properties being overpriced (I am currently in an Irvine property rental) With your 160 figure based on my rental price -$2915- and size of apt -1450 sq ft- it works out to a house value of $321 per square foot - much higher than the numbers above for Quail...

Amazing that there are articles online from the 70's and 80's - very interesting - thank you for finding them! Seems like Ca has been a pacesetter for awhile.