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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2009, 03:40:00 PM »
SoCal78: I remember an old trainer telling me about carb cycling. The higher carb days were on the days you lifted weights, and a lower carb amount on the days you did cardio. My trainer didn't recommend the diet for me, but wanted to make sure I had proper nutrition after I lifted weights. My post work out shake is 50 grams of crabs, either from Gatorade or dextrose mixed with 25 grams of protein

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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2009, 04:05:00 PM »
Darsh - when you mention your post work out shake, do you have any preference for protein powders? I was actually going to make a thread with this question. Again, I know I'm obsessed with the 650 lb. Virgin, as mentioned on IHB - but his trainer recommends protein shakes even for meal replacements. I was reading that some are whey, soy, dairy, or egg based. What are some good ones out there? I've never bought one. That trainer takes a bunch of bananas, peels them, puts the nanas in a freezer bag and puts them in the freezer. Then he pulls one out and puts it in the blender with his protein powder.

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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2009, 04:25:00 PM »
SoCal78: I would go with whey protein since its the quickest to digest.

I have done a breakfast shake that included a mixture of whey and caesin (dairy) protein since the caesin protein digests slower. I would also add flax seed meal for the fiber and strawberries and blueberries for some good carbs for the morning.

I've never tried egg protein powder because id rather eat real food when i can... Same with the soy, plus the only people i hear eating soy protein are vegans.

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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2009, 04:54:00 PM »
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I think the biggest mistake I made in the early Days was Energy Drinks, I had two water bottles on my Bike, one I would fill with an Energy drink because I "Thought" it would give me more indurance, maybe it did, but I was merely replacing the Calories I was burning...but I did build Muscle...

Now I never use energy drinks or Bars for rides less than 100 miles...


I had the same experience!  When I trained for my first endurance mountain bike race, I started using this stuff from Hammer called "Perpetuem".  I would go on these incredibly long/hard rides for many many hours every weekend, and it seemed like I stopped losing weight.  Well, after the race (which I raced at the higher end of normal weight) I came to actually look at the bottle of the mix (doh! - I do it for everything else) and realize that my multi-scoop mix is giving me 1000 calories and many grams of fat each time I use it.

For my second race, I trained on water only, but used the perpetuem for the race itself.  I was much faster and my pre-race training had actually dropped the 10 pounds I wanted from before.

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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2009, 06:03:00 PM »
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Darsh - when you mention your post work out shake, do you have any preference for protein powders? I was actually going to make a thread with this question. Again, I know I'm obsessed with the 650 lb. Virgin, as mentioned on IHB - but his trainer recommends protein shakes even for meal replacements. I was reading that some are whey, soy, dairy, or egg based. What are some good ones out there? I've never bought one. That trainer takes a bunch of bananas, peels them, puts the nanas in a freezer bag and puts them in the freezer. Then he pulls one out and puts it in the blender with his protein powder.


During and post workout the best thing to have is a combination of whey protein and some type of simple sugar.  I like Surge from Biotest.  Good flavor and I recovered very quickly from tough workouts.

Casein protein digests much slower and should be used away from workout time.

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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2009, 06:16:00 PM »
Mojo, sounds like we went through the same thing!! But we live and learn, it takes time to learn what works...

Have you ever used GU?? It's kind of a Gel with tons of Sugar...problem is, once you take one you have to keep taking them throughout the ride otherwise you have sugar highs and crashes...Bonk City here we come!!

I think I actually GAIN weight during Centuries and I'm starving for 2-3 Days afterwards...

Once I found what worked for me I lost about 30 Lbs...

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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2009, 07:18:00 PM »
Here is a new sheet I designed for our clients.  5 worst foods you can eat.  http://www.innovative-results.com/pdf/5worstfoods.pdf

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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2009, 08:52:00 PM »
Quote from: "SoCal78"
Darsh - when you mention your post work out shake, do you have any preference for protein powders? I was actually going to make a thread with this question. Again, I know I'm obsessed with the 650 lb. Virgin, as mentioned on IHB - but his trainer recommends protein shakes even for meal replacements. I was reading that some are whey, soy, dairy, or egg based. What are some good ones out there? I've never bought one. That trainer takes a bunch of bananas, peels them, puts the nanas in a freezer bag and puts them in the freezer. Then he pulls one out and puts it in the blender with his protein powder.


Really the best source of protein all depends on what your goals are and how you are structuring your diet.  The best source of information on the subject you will find is Lyle McDonald.  You can find articles he has written that will tell you far more about protein than you ever imagined possible at http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/category/nutrition/protein

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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2009, 09:56:00 PM »
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Here is a new sheet I designed for our clients.  5 worst foods you can eat.  http://www.innovative-results.com/pdf/5worstfoods.pdf


What is the reasoning behind avoiding diet soda?  I don't drink as much as I used to, but I'm wondering if the packet of Splenda in my coffee has the same affect.

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« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2009, 08:41:00 AM »
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Quote from: "SoCal78"
Darsh - when you mention your post work out shake, do you have any preference for protein powders? I was actually going to make a thread with this question. Again, I know I'm obsessed with the 650 lb. Virgin, as mentioned on IHB - but his trainer recommends protein shakes even for meal replacements. I was reading that some are whey, soy, dairy, or egg based. What are some good ones out there? I've never bought one. That trainer takes a bunch of bananas, peels them, puts the nanas in a freezer bag and puts them in the freezer. Then he pulls one out and puts it in the blender with his protein powder.

During and post workout the best thing to have is a combination of whey protein and some type of simple sugar.  I like Surge from Biotest.  Good flavor and I recovered very quickly from tough workouts.

Casein protein digests much slower and should be used away from workout time.


I tried Surge as well and loved it.. It just became too expensive which is why i tried Gatorade

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« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2009, 12:08:00 PM »
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Here is a new sheet I designed for our clients.  5 worst foods you can eat.  http://www.innovative-results.com/pdf/5worstfoods.pdf

What is the reasoning behind avoiding diet soda?  I don't drink as much as I used to, but I'm wondering if the packet of Splenda in my coffee has the same affect.


I am a big believer that "the more man alters it, run!"  Naturally occurring foods are always best.  Have u tried honey in your coffee?  

Here is a good article about artificial sweetners:
http://www.nutralegacy.com/blog/general-healthcare/top-10-dangers-of-artificial-sweeteners/

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« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2009, 03:07:00 PM »
Winex:  thanks for the great resource!

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« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2009, 03:39:00 AM »
OCP, if you were a Cyclist on a 100 mile ride and found yourself Bonking - out of Fuel - what would you eat to enable you to complete the other 50 miles?

Keep in mind that sometimes at that Point the only choice is a Gas Station or fast food joint.

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« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2009, 10:07:00 PM »
I'm not one to pump up products, but if you're looking for a serious workout that will build up your metabolism and muscle mass, try P90x.  I've been a gym rat for over 20 years, and it's the best workout I've ever tried, bar none.

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« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2009, 05:30:00 AM »
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Winex:  thanks for the great resource!


No problem at all.  I'd highly recommend buying some of Lyle's books.  Those the articles on the page I linked to (and others I haven't linked to) are kind of wonkish, they really are just teasers for his books.

 

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