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Re: Artificial Intelligence
« Reply #105 on: April 24, 2019, 11:41:13 AM »
Not exactly an AI story, but AI involved. JetBlue and DHS sharing photos. Pretty weird stuff IMHO. Not a fan.

https://boingboing.net/tag/mass-surveillance

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Re: Artificial Intelligence
« Reply #106 on: April 24, 2019, 11:59:36 AM »
Not exactly an AI story, but AI involved. JetBlue and DHS sharing photos. Pretty weird stuff IMHO. Not a fan.

https://boingboing.net/tag/mass-surveillance

Also not directly AI but AI impact and ripple effects:

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Let’s say you want to sell your house. You could go the traditional route — fix it up, stage it and endure looky-loos traipsing through your door until you get a good offer. Or you can now request an instant offer from a growing number of companies, known as iBuyers, and sell within a few days. Those companies then take on the work of preparing, listing and selling the house to someone else.

So far, tech companies including Zillow, Opendoor and Offerpad have dominated the iBuyer market. But there's a new entrant: the country’s largest real estate franchise, Keller Williams Realty.

“There’s a surprising number of people who value the convenience and simplicity, and they will give up portions of their equity in a home in order to have that convenience,” said Gayln Ziegler, director of operations at Keller Offers, a new division of Keller Williams. The company will launch its instant offer service in Dallas-Fort Worth next month and expand to six to eight cities by the end of the year.

The reason, Ziegler said, is pretty straightforward: “We decided that we needed to.”

https://www.marketplace.org/2019/04/23/economy/keller-williams-gets-home-flipping-business

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Re: Artificial Intelligence
« Reply #107 on: April 24, 2019, 01:34:34 PM »
We tend to think of people interaction by 'safe' from AI, but in many aspects, AI already has conquered it.  Complex sale relationships, maybe. Big maybe, IMHO.  Big Data analytics helped elect President Obama.  With Trump election, more factions basically weaponized it.   Facebook, Youtube, Google, they've been leveraging AI to sell you and sell you out for years.  Youtube's algorithms long ago figured out sending you down the rabbit hole kept you engaged and made you click more.  Which means more ads. Facebook, the same.  In many instances, the human operators of the system have an increasingly if almost impossible job attempting to determine why the automation is targeting the people it targets or selecting the content it selects.

JIMHO, 2020 will be interesting.  Russia, China, the PACs, big Unions and many corporations are all going to be operating through ten layers of misdirection running shadow campaigns to swing stuff.  People will be worried about the President.  Get ready because it's coming to a school board election near you.  Charter schools, school vouchers, big bond proposals.  Water bond issue, redevelopment fights.  The list goes on.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence
« Reply #108 on: April 24, 2019, 02:28:09 PM »
Irvinecommuter...

As KW (and others) leap into this kind of business model, traditional agents are going to get pushed further into niche transactions, if not an "extinction level event" for low producing realtors. That's not a bad thing per-se given how many botched deals are handled by "onesie-twosie Market Expert" type agents. (sarc\off).

So far I've found that about a good 50% of FTHB N00b's attracted and closed with the Redfin model will stay with Redfin the next go round. Frankly I thought it would have been significantly higher, but the  move up buyers seem to want more of a concierge experience when buying than the bare bones Redfin approach. The niche, high touch Agents will get through this, with the rest of the business going to e-Buyer groups like Redfin, etc. A 50% reduction in buyer/seller traffic for some of the Coldwell Banker/ReMax brokerages is going to leave a great number of realtors seeking a career change, with the biggest push coming in 2021 IMHO

"May we live in interesting times" has never been truer.

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Re: Artificial Intelligence
« Reply #109 on: April 24, 2019, 02:41:19 PM »
Irvinecommuter...

As KW (and others) leap into this kind of business model, traditional agents are going to get pushed further into niche transactions, if not an "extinction level event" for low producing realtors. That's not a bad thing per-se given how many botched deals are handled by "onesie-twosie Market Expert" type agents. (sarc\off).

So far I've found that about a good 50% of FTHB N00b's attracted and closed with the Redfin model will stay with Redfin the next go round. Frankly I thought it would have been significantly higher, but the  move up buyers seem to want more of a concierge experience when buying than the bare bones Redfin approach. The niche, high touch Agents will get through this, with the rest of the business going to e-Buyer groups like Redfin, etc. A 50% reduction in buyer/seller traffic for some of the Coldwell Banker/ReMax brokerages is going to leave a great number of realtors seeking a career change, with the biggest push coming in 2021 IMHO

"May we live in interesting times" has never been truer.

My .02c

It's not that different than many other service industries.  Travel agents were everywhere in the 1980s and 1990s but pretty much cater to niche customers (minorities, elderly, business, tours).  Same as to tax preparers...you will still need accountants for the heavy duty stuff but most people can do their own taxes, especially as the AI becomes "smarter" as time goes on.   My personal experience with turbotax is that the software is much more user-friendly and smarter than it was just a few years ago.

That's the thing about AI, it may not be great at first but the growth/refinement scale is incredible.  In the Tesla self-driving video, the guy stated that the software is continuously being updated, fine-tuned, and refined based upon data being provided to Tesla every second and all over the world...as an individual driver, you can only use your own experiences and history.  AI does not have that limitation.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence
« Reply #110 on: April 24, 2019, 06:06:47 PM »
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A Google offshoot just got the FAA’s first go-ahead for drone deliveries.

The Federal Aviation Administration on Tuesday authorized Alphabet’s Wing Aviation to start delivering goods via drones later this year. Wing will start delivering commercial packages in unmanned aircraft in Blacksburg, Virginia. It partnered with the Mid-Atlantic Aviation Partnership and Virginia Tech as a participant in the Transportation Department’s Unmanned Aircraft Systems Integration Pilot Program, an initiative to accelerate drone integration and help the department and the FAA devise rules surrounding drones.

The approval is an important one, given that this marks the first time the FAA has granted a so-called air-carrier certification for drone delivery of items such as food, medicine, and small consumer products. Wing plans to reach out to the local community before getting started in order to get a sense of its needs.

Amazon has for some time been working on drone package delivery via its Amazon Prime Air division, for which it has development centers in the US, UK, Austria, France, and Israel. And George Mason University this year said it would let students have some food and drinks be delivered via drones on the ground.

https://www.recode.net/2019/4/24/18514295/google-wing-aviation-alphabet-drone-faa

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Re: Artificial Intelligence
« Reply #111 on: May 05, 2019, 12:47:36 AM »
We will soon add modeling to the long list of jobs getting wiped out by AI.

This AI generates ultra-realistic fashion models from head to toe. None of these people in the video actually exist.

Many human models will soon be out of jobs.

https://thenextweb.com/artificial-intelligence/2019/05/01/this-ai-generates-ultra-realistic-fashion-models-from-head-to-toe/?fbclid=IwAR32DEUWI5EvhzclB7uNQMHywIIiX5QJvYFPHluZx_y1IwoihgVhHd0Lscs

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Re: Artificial Intelligence
« Reply #112 on: May 06, 2019, 06:41:56 AM »
Amazon still thinks it will take time:

https://www.engadget.com/2019/05/02/amazons-warehouse-robots-replace-human-workers-decade-jobs/

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Are you worried your job is going to be taken by a robot? You needn't be if you work for Amazon, which has dismissed the idea of fully-automated warehouses becoming a reality any time soon. According to Amazon's director of robotics fulfilment, Scott Anderson, such technology in its current form is "very limited."

In a tour of Amazon's Balitmore warehouse for reporters on Tuesday, Anderson said that while the company is exploring a variety of automation technologies, there's a misperception that the company will be replacing human workers with robots in the near future. However, it is on the agenda, with Anderson giving a timeline of "at least 10 years" before warehouses become fully automated -- a measured approach at odds with the likes of Tesla, which recently scaled back its automation citing "overconfidence" in the technology, and noting that production benefits from having more humans at hand.

At present, the Amazon warehouses that use robots are mostly concerned with general merchandise such as homewares and bikes, but their functions are limited. Robots are unable to pick items from bins without damaging other items, or pick multiple items, in a way that makes them any more efficient than human workers.

Even Musk agreed a year ago when they were trying to get the Model 3 out that sometimes robots slowed things down:

https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/14/tesla-model-3-too-many-robots/

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Tesla's affordable Model 3 has been trapped in development hell for what seems like ages now, and in an interview with CBS's Gayle King, CEO Elon Musk offered a little more insight into how the production process has fallen short. While escorting King through the company's Fremont, California-based factory, Musk conceded that Tesla might've had too many robots involved in its car production process and that the company would benefit from having more humans on the line. And when King opined out loud that in some cases, said robots probably slowed down production, Musk responded with a terse "yes, they did."

Humans are still useful. :)
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Re: Artificial Intelligence
« Reply #113 on: May 06, 2019, 10:24:06 PM »
Humans are still useful. :)

Yes, but for how much longer? How many will still have jobs in 10 years?

Ex-Google China President Kai-Fu Lee: A.I. Will Obliterate Half Of All Jobs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKgE4pLuOls

I encourage everyone to watch the video. To highlight a few points

1) Lee dispels the common myth that robots (automation) will create more jobs. He says " that's what the roboticist would like you to think. So they don't have to answer to the jobs problem.

2) Lee believes white collar jobs are even more at risk than blue collar jobs.

3) Lee believes the job problem is happening within 10 years.

4) Watch the older CNBC reporter. His reaction and attitude is why this AI/Automation wave will wipe many people out. Just cannot grasp the concept.

For those who are not familiar with Kai-Fu Lee, he has an impeccable bio. He developed the world's first speaker-independent, continuous speech recognition system as his Ph.D. thesis at Carnegie Mellon. He later worked as an executive, first at Apple, then SGI, Microsoft, and Google. In 2005, Lee left Microsoft to take a position at Google. The search company agreed to compensation worth in excess of $10 million, including a $2.5 million cash 'signing bonus' and another $1.5 million cash payment after one year, a package referred to internally at Google as 'unprecedented'.


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Re: Artificial Intelligence
« Reply #114 on: May 07, 2019, 05:49:45 PM »
Someone showed me this link:  https://talktotransformer.com/

We may not need novelists or article writers in the future.

And this is what will replace call centers and customer service agents.

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Re: Artificial Intelligence
« Reply #115 on: May 08, 2019, 10:57:25 AM »
Embark Trucks' Self-Driving Truck Drives From Los Angeles To Jacksonville

A company called Embark has completed a coast-to-coast test drive of its autonomous truck, hauling Electrolux refrigerators

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnkUO4EDhbw


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Re: Artificial Intelligence
« Reply #116 on: May 11, 2019, 04:19:46 PM »
I think you need to divulge all the facts.

If you read this article, there were still humans involved and it can only do the highway portions of the drive.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40500365/could-embarks-driverless-trucks-actually-create-jobs-for-truckers

They also think it will actually create more jobs in the short term because there is a shortfall in long haul truckers due to the time away from home. But because this technology isn’t mature enough, the local city handoff will create more regional jobs so drivers can stay closer to home.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence
« Reply #117 on: May 13, 2019, 07:22:29 AM »
To be fair, there are jobs that Amazon can replace soon with robots:

https://www.engadget.com/2019/05/13/amazon-automation-boxing-machines/

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A few weeks ago, Amazon said it will be at least 10 years before the company is running fully-automated warehouses. But partial automation is already underway. According to Reuters, Amazon is considering installing two machines at dozens of warehouses that have the potential to replace at least 24 jobs at each location. If Amazon were to roll the machines out across its 55 US fulfillment centers for standard-sized inventory, that could lead to more than 1,300 job cuts.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence
« Reply #118 on: Yesterday at 09:29:01 AM »
It is coming faster than you think

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he U.S. Postal Service on Tuesday started a two-week test transporting mail across three Southwestern states using self-driving trucks, a step forward in the effort to commercialize autonomous vehicle technology for hauling freight.

https://www.solar-estimate.org/news/2019-01-01-solar-pergolas-solar-gazebos-and-solar-patio-covers-interesting-alternatives-to-roof-mounted-solar-panels

 

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