ICE or EV?

Which car(s) will you be buying next?

  • ICE ICE Baby (morekaos dinosaur option)

    Votes: 16 34.0%
  • EV forEVa (unicorns for all)

    Votes: 24 51.1%
  • PHEV (I still have range anxiety)

    Votes: 5 10.6%
  • Hybrid (can't plug in yet)

    Votes: 5 10.6%
  • Alternative fuel (Hydrogen, vegetable oil, etc)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 2.1%

  • Total voters
    47
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Wrong, they saw the fools rushing in and sat back and watched the car crash. Pushed their ICE advantage, wisely tiptoed into hybrid and avoided the $19 billion dollar landmine that blew up Fords balance sheet and are evaluating future EV demand (which has waned). Did exactly as I would have, and saved shareholder value and market share. Flawless.😂😂😂👍🏽
 
Like I said years ago..Toyota had this figured out from the start.

He's outdated... Toyota needs fresh ideas and new tech, not retreads.

Like I said…Toyota has this more figured out than the others….build things people want…not what the government tells you to….🙄😂😂😂🦄🌈

The world’s top carmaker got mocked for rejecting EV hype—not anymore. ‘I want to congratulate Toyota’

Toyota was skeptical of electric vehicles back when that wasn’t fashionable. In October 2022, for instance, then-CEO Akio Toyoda said that EVs “are just going to take longer than the media would like us to believe.” As other big carmakers made bold proclamations about when they go all electric, Toyota refused to play along, vowing instead to keep offering a wide array of powertrains and letting consumers decide for themselves.

“That’s our strategy and we’re sticking to it,” he insisted, vowing to focus on hybrids, which this carmaker pioneered with the release of the Prius in Japan in 1997, and three years later in the U.S. Since then, the Japanese giant has steadily increased its hybrid offerings.

Toyota’s stance was not a good look at the time—and it didn’t go over well.

“Toyota is not correctly responding to calls from the market to take a lead in electric vehicles,” Satoru Aoyama, senior director at Fitch Ratings, told the Financial Times, warning the carmaker could “lose investor confidence.”

Environmentalists were none too pleased, either. “The fact is: a hybrid today is not green technology,” blogged Katherine Garcia, director of the Sierra Club’s Clean Transportation For All campaign. “The Prius hybrid runs on a pollution-emitting combustion engine found in any gas-powered car…Rather than invest in EVs, though, Toyota is putting corporate profits and the status quo over tackling the climate crisis.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...31&cvid=51419e619a50456ea632545866c9dbb4&ei=3
 
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Again you are contradicting yourself. Toyota is not embracing ICE like you keep claiming. They are moving to EVs and that starts with hybrids and PHEVs. Several of their models don’t even have an ICE only option anymore.

You are saying how smart Toyota is without realizing they are transitioning to EVs.
 
Again you are contradicting yourself. Toyota is not embracing ICE like you keep claiming. They are moving to EVs and that starts with hybrids and PHEVs. Several of their models don’t even have an ICE only option anymore.

You are saying how smart Toyota is without realizing they are transitioning to EVs.
Toyota is and will continue to be the dominant ICE producer. They avoided the fools rush in, total EV commitments that blew massive holes in other car companies balance sheets. They are leaning into their PHEV market advantage while dipping into the EV market slowly, understanding the slow uptake in that market. They are playing it perfectly. As I have always said. If the EV market uptake ever takes hold they are best positioned to pivot while avoiding all the costly mistakes (to us and shareholders) the other manufacturers made. 😂😂😂👍🏽
 
Toyota is and will continue to be the dominant ICE producer. They avoided the fools rush in, total EV commitments that blew massive holes in other car companies balance sheets. They are leaning into their PHEV market advantage while dipping into the EV market slowly, understanding the slow uptake in that market. They are playing it perfectly. As I have always said. If the EV market uptake ever takes hold they are best positioned to pivot while avoiding all the costly mistakes (to us and shareholders) the other manufacturers made. 😂😂😂👍🏽
Yet Tesla shareholders have done better than any other automaker shareholders as it’s a software/AI and science thesis - straight automotive is a terrible business to invest in anyways . Toyota is by far the best run and most proftiable large scale mfr though and agree with their sound EV strategy. Also remember they build first for the domestic Japan market where EVs haven’t been a priority for consumers
 
I haven’t been a long investor in the auto space in many years. All the money I have made in that sector has been to the short side…like airlines…it’s a dumpy place to invest.💰💸😂😂🇺🇸
 
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