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irvinehomeowner said:
I have heard of 4/1/2 bio (they took IVC classes during high school).

Junior to UC for even impacted majors is the easiest route. The 4/1/2 above did not get into UCLA so did the 1 year at IVC and then transferred and graduated.

It's freshman admissions that are the bottleneck.
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IHO, isnt the real bottle neck not the freshman admission but the IUSD system? Lets pretend you have a smart daughter who was constantly praised by teachers as a gifted student in elementary and middle school. She enters high school at a competitive IUSD schools and makes a 4.1 GPA with couple Bs in her AP classes and finds out that she is ranked in the top 50% of her class. She doesnt get into a UC college even the 3rd or 4th tier UC colleges. what just happened? Your daughter is smart but she is demoralized by the IUSD experience. She's smart but she doesnt feel smart. She is no longer even motivated to goto college.

The Irvine Company has been selling the dream that the IUSD is the pathway to elite colleges and top UC schools. BKshopr has been telling us otherwise for the last 10 years.
 
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Probably not just IUSD. I have friends who do not live in Irvine, are high performing students and do not get into UCs.

I still stand that freshman admissions is the expectation killer. On the other side, based on conversations with friends who are in IUSD and friends of my kids, many do get into UCs so not sure what the algorithm is. Maybe the parents are UC alumni?
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Probably not just IUSD. I have friends who do not live in Irvine, are high performing students and do not get into UCs.

I still stand that freshman admissions is the expectation killer. On the other side, based on conversations with friends who are in IUSD and friends of my kids, many do get into UCs so not sure what the algorithm is. Maybe the parents are UC alumni?
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Are you sure the high performing students are not even not into these UC Schools? Merced, Riverside, and Santa Cruz? If that is the case, there is something seriously wrong with the UC admissions system. I am curious to know how subjective the admissions for UC is now with out SAT scores.

Acceptance rates:
UC Merced 88.3%
UC Riverside 70.3%
UC Santa Cruz 62.7%
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Maybe the parents are UC alumni?
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Can't be just alumni. Gotta also be donating to get special treatment.
Money is always the most important factor in admissions.
The alumni association keeps track....

OCSA just implemented $6,000 required donation per year per student.
Santa Ana Unified sued them for 14 mill and they both settled for 8 mill.
Gotta get that money somehow.
In the past, it was only a suggested donation.

Also noticed that this year, OCSA seems to be accepting a lot more students.
Must need money bad.
 
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irvinehomeowner said:
Probably not just IUSD. I have friends who do not live in Irvine, are high performing students and do not get into UCs.

I still stand that freshman admissions is the expectation killer. On the other side, based on conversations with friends who are in IUSD and friends of my kids, many do get into UCs so not sure what the algorithm is. Maybe the parents are UC alumni?
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UCLA from Northwood High. My argument is that more than 100 Asian students applying from Northwood High would have the academic qualifications to be admitted by UCLA and UC Berkeley Admissions, but limits the seats available for this top IUSD High school. Do you agree with me that it is a huge disadvantage to send your kids to the top IUSD schools if your kid's goal is to get admitted to the top UC school or elite universities?

231 - Asian student applied 24 accepted, 11 enrolled.
17 – Hispanic student applied 0 accepted 0 enrolled
38 - White students applied 0 accepted 0 enrolled.

UC Berkeley from Northwood High

201- Asian student applied 37 accepted, 21 enrolled.
9 Hispanic student applied 0 accepted 0 enrolled
38 White students applied 0 accepted 0 enrolled.

www.universityofcalifornia.edu

Admissions by source school

Applicants, admits and enrollments by California high schools and California community colleges for freshmen and transfer entrants by source school, mean GPA, ethnicity and school.
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panda said:
UCLA from Northwood High. My argument is that more than 100 Asian students applying from Northwood High would have the academic qualifications to be admitted by UCLA and UC Berkeley Admissions, but limits the seats available for this top IUSD High school. Do you agree with me that it is a huge disadvantage to send your kids to the top IUSD schools if your kid's goal is to get admitted to the top UC school or elite universities?

231 - Asian student applied 24 accepted, 11 enrolled.
17 – Hispanic student applied 0 accepted 0 enrolled
38 - White students applied 0 accepted 0 enrolled.

UC Berkeley from Northwood High

201- Asian student applied 37 accepted, 21 enrolled.
9 Hispanic student applied 0 accepted 0 enrolled
38 White students applied 0 accepted 0 enrolled.

www.universityofcalifornia.edu

Admissions by source school

Applicants, admits and enrollments by California high schools and California community colleges for freshmen and transfer entrants by source school, mean GPA, ethnicity and school.
www.universityofcalifornia.edu www.universityofcalifornia.edu
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Are these kids doing all this for themselves or their parents?
 
Imnotmoving said:
Are these kids doing all this for themselves or their parents?
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Themselves + parents + peers + society
"We" tell them they need to go to college so they can get a job so they can have a good life and not have to live in their mom's basement.
 
panda said:
UCLA from Northwood High. My argument is that more than 100 Asian students applying from Northwood High would have the academic qualifications to be admitted by UCLA and UC Berkeley Admissions, but limits the seats available for this top IUSD High school. Do you agree with me that it is a huge disadvantage to send your kids to the top IUSD schools if your kid's goal is to get admitted to the top UC school or elite universities?
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The admissions are NOT merit based at all (back in the 90s, they were more so). The UCs take into account "context" (search for this in the links below) - how does the applicant compare to others at the same school. They are not going to admit 90% of Northwood High applicants even if they have strong GPAs, APs, essays, ECs because they also need to admit students from all over the state.
admission.ucla.edu

Application Review Process for First-Years

Selection for admission to UCLA is based on a holistic review of all information — both academic and personal — presented in the application.
admission.ucla.edu admission.ucla.edu
admissions.berkeley.edu

First-Year Requirements

UC Berkeley seeks students from all over the world to be a part of our dynamic community. First-year applicants are students who are currently in high school (with
admissions.berkeley.edu admissions.berkeley.edu
 
It makes sense to put yourself through this if you are focused on an elite private school that doesn't accept transfers, but why go through all this just to get into UCLA when you can take the IVC-->UCLA transfer route? Save money and stress. At the end of the day, all that matters is the credential you can put on your resume. Who cares about taking general education classes at UCLA?
 
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