ICE or EV?

Which car(s) will you be buying next?

  • ICE ICE Baby (morekaos dinosaur option)

    Votes: 15 32.6%

  • EV forEVa (unicorns for all)

    Votes: 24 52.2%

  • PHEV (I still have range anxiety)

    Votes: 5 10.9%

  • Hybrid (can't plug in yet)

    Votes: 5 10.9%

  • Alternative fuel (Hydrogen, vegetable oil, etc)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Total voters
    46
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I actually did, but that article (by an EV biased writer) is so full of typical Global warming “ifs and buts were sugar and nuts” statistics that its whole premise is as smoggy as a Beijing morning. Toyota has turned practical insight into strategic planning and earnings. That isn’t some vague maybe…its clear conscience policy that manifests in dollars and cents…what a good CEO should be doing , not trying to jump on a bandwagon and virtue signal with shareholder money.💰
 
morekaos said:
I actually did, but that article (by an EV biased writer) is so full of typical Global warming “ifs and buts were sugar and nuts” statistics that its whole premise is as smoggy as a Beijing morning. Toyota has turned practical insight into strategic planning and earnings. That isn’t some vague maybe…its clear conscience policy that manifests in dollars and cents…what a good CEO should be doing , not trying to jump on a bandwagon and virtue signal with shareholder money.💰
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Toyota is making money on the value and quality proposition... not the ICE over EV focus like you try to rant about.

If Toyota made more EVs, people would probably choose them over the other brands.. which is what is happening outside of the US.

Out of touch like usual.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Toyota is making money on the value and quality proposition... not the ICE over EV focus like you try to rant about.

If Toyota made more EVs, people would probably choose them over the other brands.. which is what is happening outside of the US.

Out of touch like usual.
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You clearly don’t understand how business works. If your premise is true, Toyota would make those EVs, like Ford or Volkswagen did, Toyota avoided that balance sheet exploding land mine and produced what people wanted not what the government tells them they want. Dollars and cents are the score board, and on that Toyota is winning. 🥇
 
This is like an oil spill…not really good for Ghia…It’ll probably continue burning for a decade underwater…huge pill of heavy metals….👎🏽😂😂🦄🌈

Cargo ship stuffed with EVs catches fire and sinks off coast of Alaska

A fire that started on a cargo ship nearly a month ago has come to a dramatic end, with the boat finally sinking off the coast of Alaska.

On June 3, the Morning Midas was making the journey from China to Mexico towing electric vehicles, hybrid cars, and thousands of conventional automobiles when smoke began to rise from its EV floor and flames quickly spread.

After three weeks of tense burning, the 600-foot ship finally sank the evening of June 23, 450 miles southwest of Adak, Alaska. The United States Coast Guard estimated that it plunged 16,400 feet into international waters.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...vehicles-catches-fire-sinks-coast-alaska.html
 
morekaos said:
You clearly don’t understand how business works. If your premise is true, Toyota would make those EVs, like Ford or Volkswagen did, Toyota avoided that balance sheet exploding land mine and produced what people wanted not what the government tells them they want. Dollars and cents are the score board, and on that Toyota is winning. 🥇
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If you read my first sentence... you would clearly understand how Toyota business works.

Toyota is making EVs, moreso abroad then here... partly due to the high cost to make/sell EVs here (again value/quality). Once EV manufacturing is where they can support lower prices with higher margins (like they can outside the US), they will come.

There is a reason why most of their US vehicles are going hybrid because they know buyers want "electric" vehicles (which is why they are misleadingly advertising their cars as "100% electrified".

It's okay... you'll feel the tidal wave once you are underneath it.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
If you read my first sentence... you would clearly understand how Toyota business works.

Toyota is making EVs, moreso abroad then here... partly due to the high cost to make/sell EVs here (again value/quality). Once EV manufacturing is where they can support lower prices with higher margins (like they can outside the US), they will come.

There is a reason why most of their US vehicles are going hybrid because they know buyers want "electric" vehicles (which is why they are misleadingly advertising their cars as "100% electrified".

It's okay... you'll feel the tidal wave once you are underneath it.
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Nice logic pretzel…😳😂😂😂🦄🌈
 

Gilbert Arenas' Son Alijah Shares Details on Fiery Cybertruck Crash That Left Him in Induced Coma​


Speaking in a new interview, Alijah said he was heading home after a workout in the early hours of April 24, when his Cybertruck lost control.

“Me going on the way to my house, the car didn’t really register that I was in there,” he said, per USCFootball.com. “So even to this day, the car app still says I’m at the gym.”

He went on to add that he noticed things like the car’s keypad turning on and off, and “the lights going off without me even doing anything.”

At a traffic light, he realized that the wheel wasn’t moving the way it ought to be. Eventually, the USC men's basketball freshman attempted to turn onto a side road.

"I switched lanes without meaning to, and I knew something was wrong," he said. "And next thing you know, I can't get back to the left lane.”

He added, “So then a car is coming towards me, and I think that I'll just pull over. So I speed up to pull over to the right in a neighborhood because there are cars parked on the street I'm on to the right. But when I'm speeding up to turn, I can't stop. The wheel wasn't responding to me as if I wasn't in the car."

Alijah recalled hitting a curb and passing out for three minutes. He came to thinking that he was at home; however, after hearing “cracking noises,” he discovered that he was in his car, which was on fire.

“I went into panic mode, instinctively, checked my surroundings,” he said. “I couldn't see outside the car because of all the fog.”

Alijah said he passed out multiple times as he made attempts to get out of the car before two good Samaritans helped him out of the vehicle through a window.

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Gilbert Arenas' Son Alijah Shares Details on Fiery Cybertruck Crash That Left Him in Induced Coma

In a new interview on June 24, Gilbert Arenas' Son Alijah shared the details on the Cybertruck crash that left him in an induced coma.
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Liar Loan said:

Gilbert Arenas' Son Alijah Shares Details on Fiery Cybertruck Crash That Left Him in Induced Coma​


Speaking in a new interview, Alijah said he was heading home after a workout in the early hours of April 24, when his Cybertruck lost control.

“Me going on the way to my house, the car didn’t really register that I was in there,” he said, per USCFootball.com. “So even to this day, the car app still says I’m at the gym.”

He went on to add that he noticed things like the car’s keypad turning on and off, and “the lights going off without me even doing anything.”

At a traffic light, he realized that the wheel wasn’t moving the way it ought to be. Eventually, the USC men's basketball freshman attempted to turn onto a side road.

"I switched lanes without meaning to, and I knew something was wrong," he said. "And next thing you know, I can't get back to the left lane.”

He added, “So then a car is coming towards me, and I think that I'll just pull over. So I speed up to pull over to the right in a neighborhood because there are cars parked on the street I'm on to the right. But when I'm speeding up to turn, I can't stop. The wheel wasn't responding to me as if I wasn't in the car."

Alijah recalled hitting a curb and passing out for three minutes. He came to thinking that he was at home; however, after hearing “cracking noises,” he discovered that he was in his car, which was on fire.

“I went into panic mode, instinctively, checked my surroundings,” he said. “I couldn't see outside the car because of all the fog.”

Alijah said he passed out multiple times as he made attempts to get out of the car before two good Samaritans helped him out of the vehicle through a window.

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Gilbert Arenas' Son Alijah Shares Details on Fiery Cybertruck Crash That Left Him in Induced Coma

In a new interview on June 24, Gilbert Arenas' Son Alijah shared the details on the Cybertruck crash that left him in an induced coma.
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I still think cyber trucks are some joke Tesla is playing to see who will buy it.
 
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