Homeless camps coming to Irvine

eyephone said:
I have been saying this and many others on TI. They should have something for the helping the veterans versus the cemetery. Maybe like job training site, which will be good for business all over. Let?s be honest, they are serving the country. But when they come back to the population they might need training. (Some do and some don?t)

But offering veterans affordable is good.

Burn That Belly said:
Oh oh, this just gets better and better.

Hold on to your horses, the "riff raffs" are finally coming to GP one way or another! Not the homeless, but they're still riff raffs.  ;D

Supervisor Spitzer:
I am announcing today that I have partnered with Irvine Mayor Donald P. Wagner to assess, pursue and fast-track opportunities for Veteran?s and Women?s permanent housing at the County owned West Alton Parcel at the intersection of Irvine Blvd. and Alton Parkway.

This agreement comes at a time where the entire County has joined in a concerted movement to site and build affordable permanent housing that blends into the aesthetics and housing stock of specific communities and resolves and addresses the need for permanent supportive housing and not temporary structures of tents.

Geez...they pushed that out as far as they could.  It's basically next to the jail. 
 
Burn That Belly said:
Oh oh, this just gets better and better.

Hold on to your horses, the "riff raffs" are finally coming to GP one way or another! Not the homeless, but they're still riff raffs.  ;D

Supervisor Spitzer:
I am announcing today that I have partnered with Irvine Mayor Donald P. Wagner to assess, pursue and fast-track opportunities for Veteran?s and Women?s permanent housing at the County owned West Alton Parcel at the intersection of Irvine Blvd. and Alton Parkway.

This agreement comes at a time where the entire County has joined in a concerted movement to site and build affordable permanent housing that blends into the aesthetics and housing stock of specific communities and resolves and addresses the need for permanent supportive housing and not temporary structures of tents.

But those are less dangerous (and less unsightly) riff-raffs and won't be in tents.  Hopefully, this filters out that criminal and dirty element and minimal impact to property values.
 
Burn That Belly said:
paydawg said:
Burn That Belly said:
Oh oh, this just gets better and better.

Hold on to your horses, the "riff raffs" are finally coming to GP one way or another! Not the homeless, but they're still riff raffs.  ;D

Supervisor Spitzer:
I am announcing today that I have partnered with Irvine Mayor Donald P. Wagner to assess, pursue and fast-track opportunities for Veteran?s and Women?s permanent housing at the County owned West Alton Parcel at the intersection of Irvine Blvd. and Alton Parkway.

This agreement comes at a time where the entire County has joined in a concerted movement to site and build affordable permanent housing that blends into the aesthetics and housing stock of specific communities and resolves and addresses the need for permanent supportive housing and not temporary structures of tents.

But those are less dangerous (and less unsightly) riff-raffs and won't be in tents.  Hopefully, this filters out that criminal and dirty element and minimal impact to property values.


What's the difference between a hooker (homeless) and a stripper (affordable housing)?  I guess the latter is more acceptable.  ;D  The hooker is selling the body but the stripper is selling a fantasy.

Right.  Plus a hooker can roam and stand on a street corner - quite unsightly.  A stripper works in a legal establishment, out of public view and those establishments will not be in residential areas like Irvine.  So there's a big difference.  Kind of like a loan shark vs. a credit union. 
 
Burn That Belly said:
eyephone said:


Here are the key phrases:

Irvine Mayor Don Wagner said he will attend the April 3 meeting, and that he?s directed city staff to ?come up with some alternate locations.?
?Irvine has pledged to be part of the solution,? Wagner said.


This is proof that Irvine will come up with some alternate locations (some other unsightly areas of GP) and certainly they're redirecting the rhetoric as homeless cherry-picking "affordable housing".

They've got 6 days, less than 144 hours to come up with something juicy for everyone to swallow. But Spitzer already spilled the beans. Alton and Irvine Blvd.


BTW, it's a very beautiful piece of land. Real nice.

axiTTRK.jpg

Isn't that five points land and also next to PS high?
 
jmoney74 said:
Burn That Belly said:
eyephone said:


Here are the key phrases:

Irvine Mayor Don Wagner said he will attend the April 3 meeting, and that he?s directed city staff to ?come up with some alternate locations.?
?Irvine has pledged to be part of the solution,? Wagner said.


This is proof that Irvine will come up with some alternate locations (some other unsightly areas of GP) and certainly they're redirecting the rhetoric as homeless cherry-picking "affordable housing".

They've got 6 days, less than 144 hours to come up with something juicy for everyone to swallow. But Spitzer already spilled the beans. Alton and Irvine Blvd.


BTW, it's a very beautiful piece of land. Real nice.

axiTTRK.jpg

Isn't that five points land and also next to PS high?

NM. Just caught up.
 
Burn That Belly said:
However, there is just one more elephant in the room. It seems like the City of Irvine is not backing down on the lawsuit regarding the land-use of the original county-owned SB2 site. That means the city is still not giving in on the County's wishes to build commercial and retail stuff.

If the homeless population increases in 10 years and the alton/irvine site becomes full, that County GP land will come up again to house an expansion of the alton/irvine site. This will be a real nightmare in the making.

Nah.  By then, that mobile home neighborhood on Jeffrey will be 1/2 empty and they'll turn that area into a low-income housing site instead.
 
But SB2 was passed by the state?

Burn That Belly said:
However, there is just one more elephant in the room. It seems like the City of Irvine is not backing down on the lawsuit regarding the land-use of the original county-owned SB2 site. That means the city is still not giving in on the County's wishes to build commercial and retail stuff.

If the homeless population increases in 10 years and the alton/irvine site becomes full, that County GP land will come up again to house an expansion of the alton/irvine site. This will be a real nightmare in the making.
 
Burn That Belly said:
However, there is just one more elephant in the room. It seems like the City of Irvine is not backing down on the lawsuit regarding the land-use of the original county-owned SB2 site. That means the city is still not giving in on the County's wishes to build commercial and retail stuff.

If the homeless population increases in 10 years and the alton/irvine site becomes full, that County GP land will come up again to house an expansion of the alton/irvine site. This will be a real nightmare in the making.

County is using the homeless thing as leverage against Irvine.

You don't want retail?  You get homeless people!  You really think that the county would put a homeless shelter on such a prime piece of real estate?

On Friday, the county released its final Environmental Impact Report detailing its plan to build 1,998 housing units, 1 million square feet of office space, 200,000 square feet of commercial space and a 242-room hotel on land it kept when it annexed the Great Park to Irvine in 2003. Once completed, the project could earn the county upwards of $4 billion over 75 years, giving it a new revenue stream for countywide infrastructure improvements and to help the homeless.[/quote
https://www.ocregister.com/2017/11/...ail-development-as-irvine-threatens-lawsuit/]
 
Let them out to wander where ever the wind takes them.  Then 3 years later uproot them again.
You gotta treat it like the herp.  It will never go away, you address it when it flares.  It'll probably flare up in Santa Ana river trail again.

There is no solution.
 
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