coronavirus

[Mety]

We are not saying it, we know it.

People in healthcare knows. Hospitals in California are getting full.

You don't need agencies, news, government to tell you when your friends and family who works in health care called out of the blue and give you stern warning to limit going out.

Which hospitals in CA are getting full? Are the public city hospitals getting to the point where they can?t take patients anymore? We can?t say hospitals are getting full when some small clinic businesses are having more people than usual.

I?m just trying to get the truth. Some say facts are facts as they appear on data and through people in medical business and so on, but isn?t there a possibility those also could be coming from someone else?s biased opinions?

Hospitals of Kaiser across Southern california and LA County are ones I personally knows that's getting full, large enough for you?

LA county is also forcing resident to stay and practice for extra hours, if not, they risk getting disqualified or received lowest passing grade

Thanks for providing actual names. You're saying you personally know they're getting full, but I still have not seen the actual data of them getting full to the point where they can't take more people. I don't disbelieve you. Like always, I'm looking for accuracy and reliable sources to actually agree and believe. I can't make the decision off of what someone's saying they know something personally and whatnot.

However, I really appreciate your inputs and telling us Kaisers across CA are getting full. Now I or someone who wants to dig deeper can actually look to find out more.

 

[Mety]

We are not saying it, we know it.

People in healthcare knows. Hospitals in California are getting full.

You don't need agencies, news, government to tell you when your friends and family who works in health care called out of the blue and give you stern warning to limit going out.

Which hospitals in CA are getting full? Are the public city hospitals getting to the point where they can?t take patients anymore? We can?t say hospitals are getting full when some small clinic businesses are having more people than usual.

I?m just trying to get the truth. Some say facts are facts as they appear on data and through people in medical business and so on, but isn?t there a possibility those also could be coming from someone else?s biased opinions?

Google covid hospital full in CA?
https://abc7.com/coronavirus-covid-...nty-hospital-beds-icu-san-bernardino/6282266/

Almost every ICU bed in Riverside County is currently being used. The county website shows ICU utilization has steadily risen in the past two weeks, from about 82% just two weeks ago to almost 99% as of Sunday.

Is the county overreporting their own beds and usage?  What would they gain from that?

Umm. They can actually gain lotta things from that. More bed units and more funding will be given to them if they do report they need help. BUT I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE OVERREPORTING. I just answered your question.

Anyways, I couldn't find much information which hospitals were actually getting full in Google. That's why I asked here.

 

[Mety]

So are some of you guys saying there are more cases popping since the businesses have been opening back to normal?

Not us... the various health agencies, governments, news etc.

And you agree, yes?

It's data. Unlike some people... I can't ignore facts.

Data should equal to facts which should be truth, right? That's not always the case in reality. Health agencies, governments, news, and etc. are all heavily biased these days and people end up getting distorted data.

We have freewill and this country is all about free speech, yeah? That's why I'm using my freedom to look for accuracy and truth. Unfortunately, what should have been reliable are not being trustful now days and I can't help but to keep seeking and questioning things. Some of you guys (like eyephone and morekoas cough cough) seem pretty firm with what you're getting out of those sources though. I'm just not that type of a person.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

Kenkoko had a post earlier that misreporting can constitute fraud and that's not something hospitals would want to do.

It would be an outlier if only one or two hospitals were saying this but it's several... across the nation.

You need to work on your Google skills, look up Houston's hospitals.

 

[Mety]

Kenkoko had a post earlier that misreporting can constitute fraud and that's not something hospitals would want to do.

It would be an outlier if only one or two hospitals were saying this but it's several... across the nation.

You need to work on your Google skills, look up Houston's hospitals.

That's why I said in BOLD above statement so that someone like you might not end up believing own imagination that I said hospitals are reporting fraud all over.

I listened to your suggestion and tried that google. This article was the first thing popped up.https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisett...s-full--then-removes-its-report/#385e49a47a55

This says Texas' largest medical complex removed its ICU bed capacity report. They reported it was getting full then someone else said C-19 driven case was only 27%. Then the hospital got more beds coming and yade yade...

So what is to believe? The initial report? Or the 27% part? Or the whole thing was a hoax? Is Trump getting reelected? It just shows there are so much politics going on and we don't know what to believe anymore.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

You're just pulling a qwerty... only seeing what you want to see. Any Google search will pull up multiple articles in several states regarding fear of hospitals going over capacity:
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020...-as-coronavirus-strains-california-hospitals/

Here is a CDC chart that shows what could grow into an issue:
https://www.cdc.gov/nhsn/covid19/report-patient-impact.html

I do think we can get this under control as long as we actively adhere to safety guidelines.

Or you can just close your eyes and hope coronavirus magically vanishes.

 

[Kings]

Or you can just close your eyes and hope coronavirus magically vanishes.

have you ever seen a coronavirus?  clearly it's not real

 

[nosuchreality]

Google does personalized search results.  What you see is highly influenced by what junk you?ve searched and browsed over the last 180 days.

If you?ve been going down the plandemic rathole, you?ll get results skewed towards the hoax camp.  If you?ve been googling the CDC and State health boards, you?ll get different results and if you?ve been lining up your stint with the Sea Shepard Conservation Society, still different results.

Basically if you?re viewing ma8nstream media is biased sites, google will present view from the mainstream media is biased sites.

 

[bones]

This was more afterschool care/camp at an IUSD school, not sure what they would do during actual classes. I'm sure if you called the health department they'd give you more info if allowed.  I'm just letting you know it's closer than you think if you have kids, its bound to spread in school.

So it was NOT one of public schools. Your initial post sounded like C-19 broke out from one of public elementary schools or something. That's why I asked you since you sounded more informed about it than me.

I'm not and never has been against protecting kids' health. I'm just questioning for accuracy. One word could mean millions of things if not addressed correctly. 

It was at the Rainbow Rising at Beacon Park Elementary.

 

[Kings]

Google does personalized search results.  What you see is highly influenced by what junk you?ve searched and browsed over the last 180 days.

If you?ve been going down the plandemic rathole, you?ll get results skewed towards the hoax camp.  If you?ve been googling the CDC and State health boards, you?ll get different results and if you?ve been lining up your stint with the Sea Shepard Conservation Society, still different results.

Basically if you?re viewing ma8nstream media is biased sites, google will present view from the mainstream media is biased sites.

no wonder i keep getting ads for mask porn sites

 

[akkord]

So 2 schools...I was referencing a different IUSD school. 

This was more afterschool care/camp at an IUSD school, not sure what they would do during actual classes. I'm sure if you called the health department they'd give you more info if allowed.  I'm just letting you know it's closer than you think if you have kids, its bound to spread in school.

So it was NOT one of public schools. Your initial post sounded like C-19 broke out from one of public elementary schools or something. That's why I asked you since you sounded more informed about it than me.

I'm not and never has been against protecting kids' health. I'm just questioning for accuracy. One word could mean millions of things if not addressed correctly. 

It was at the Rainbow Rising at Beacon Park Elementary.

 

[akkord]

Doesn't this go in line with what others have been posting.  The IE stated no masks required and started opening up earlier, so now they are reporting they are at capacity.  So if you can't put the dots together, I don't know what to say, it's common sense. 

I jacked up my knee a few weeks ago, but I didn't do anything about it, now my knee is worse...true story when I was younger playing sports...common sense didn't work for me when I a teen, I've learned as I got older.  Hopefully you can too. 

We are not saying it, we know it.

People in healthcare knows. Hospitals in California are getting full.

You don't need agencies, news, government to tell you when your friends and family who works in health care called out of the blue and give you stern warning to limit going out.

Which hospitals in CA are getting full? Are the public city hospitals getting to the point where they can?t take patients anymore? We can?t say hospitals are getting full when some small clinic businesses are having more people than usual.

I?m just trying to get the truth. Some say facts are facts as they appear on data and through people in medical business and so on, but isn?t there a possibility those also could be coming from someone else?s biased opinions?

Google covid hospital full in CA?
https://abc7.com/coronavirus-covid-...nty-hospital-beds-icu-san-bernardino/6282266/

Almost every ICU bed in Riverside County is currently being used. The county website shows ICU utilization has steadily risen in the past two weeks, from about 82% just two weeks ago to almost 99% as of Sunday.

Is the county overreporting their own beds and usage?  What would they gain from that?

Umm. They can actually gain lotta things from that. More bed units and more funding will be given to them if they do report they need help. BUT I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE OVERREPORTING. I just answered your question.

Anyways, I couldn't find much information which hospitals were actually getting full in Google. That's why I asked here.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

I don?t think we should lockdown again.

Just close the trouble spots like bars and enforce safety protocols like masks and social distancing.

I really don?t think outdoor spaces like the beaches should be closed but I think it?s an enforcement issue where it would be too difficult to make people wear masks and stay apart.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

Or you can just close your eyes and hope coronavirus magically vanishes.

have you ever seen a coronavirus?  clearly it's not real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwqVXG5sVHw

 

[Kings]

Or you can just close your eyes and hope coronavirus magically vanishes.

have you ever seen a coronavirus?  clearly it's not real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwqVXG5sVHw

looks like a drawing. did you see it with your own two eyes? i haven't!

 

[nosuchreality]

Well looks like the spike surge is here just in time for the 4th.

779 new cases, 510 hospitalized in OC. 

What's the over/under for July 31st?

 

[irvinehomeowner]

looks like a drawing. did you see it with your own two eyes? i haven't!

Maybe Kings is Trump's TI account.

 

[Happiness]

So 2 schools...I was referencing a different IUSD school. 

This was more afterschool care/camp at an IUSD school, not sure what they would do during actual classes. I'm sure if you called the health department they'd give you more info if allowed.  I'm just letting you know it's closer than you think if you have kids, its bound to spread in school.

So it was NOT one of public schools. Your initial post sounded like C-19 broke out from one of public elementary schools or something. That's why I asked you since you sounded more informed about it than me.

I'm not and never has been against protecting kids' health. I'm just questioning for accuracy. One word could mean millions of things if not addressed correctly. 

It was at the Rainbow Rising at Beacon Park Elementary.

I also heard it was another school but also in the Great Park Neighborhoods.  Exorbitant mello roos, toxic land, cemetery, threat of homeless camps, and now corona schools.

 

[Kings]

looks like a drawing. did you see it with your own two eyes? i haven't!

Maybe Kings is Trump's TI account.

the best account, like you wouldn't believe

 

[Kings]

this just in - the protests actually slowed the spread of the virus!

take that all your protest naysayers, go science!

Black Lives Matter protests may have slowed overall spread of coronavirus in Denver and other cities, new study finds

As protests against racism and police violence swept across the country, drawing massive crowds into the streets amid a pandemic, public health officials worried about what the overall impact would be.

Would these protests ? which many health leaders said they support ? also turn out to be virus super-spreading events?

But a new study by a nationwide research team that includes a University of Colorado Denver professor has found something surprising: The protests may have slowed the overall spread of the coronavirus in cities with large demonstrations, including Denver.

?We think that what?s going on is it?s the people who are not going to protest are staying away,? said Andrew Friedson, the CU-Denver professor who is one of the paper?s co-authors. ?The overall effect for the entire city is more social distancing because people are avoiding the protests.?

?We don?t have the direct causation of this uptick,? Polis told reporters last week, noting that there is evidence that some young people who are part of an outbreak in Boulder had attended protests while other outbreaks are tied to social gatherings. ?And we hope this is a trend that is reversed in our state.?

On Monday, a spokesman for the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment said that, while the state has now seen rising numbers of new cases for two consecutive weeks, ?we have not seen any clear association between the protests and an increase in cases.?

The spokesman, Ian Dickson, said the uptick in infections ?may be partly due to some Coloradans changing their behavior ? especially socializing in larger groups, sometimes without proper distancing or mask wearing.?

https://coloradosun.com/2020/06/30/police-protests-coronavirus-spread/